What is the best way to fix a creaky pivot on my full-suspension mountain bike?

[toothdk]

Whats the point of even trying to fix a creaky pivot on a full-suspension mountain bike when the design itself is fundamentally flawed? Its clear that most manufacturers prioritize aesthetics over functionality, churning out bikes with pivots that are destined to creak and groan under even moderate use.

Rather than just slapping some grease on the pivot and calling it a day, whats the most effective method for actually addressing the root cause of the creak? Is it simply a matter of redesigning the pivot system from the ground up, or are there specific materials or bearing types that can mitigate the inherent flaws in the existing designs?

Its laughable that so many experts on this forum recommend using things like WD-40 or silicone spray to quiet creaky pivots, when its clear that these solutions are just temporary band-aids that dont actually address the underlying issue. Whats the most aggressive, no-holds-barred approach to fixing a creaky pivot, and how many of you are actually brave enough to try it?

Lets not waste time with half-measures and mediocre solutions – whats the best way to completely eliminate creaky pivots from full-suspension mountain bikes, once and for all?

 

[fletch68]

"Agreed, many designs prioritize aesthetics over functionality. Addressing the root cause of creaking pivots often requires a thorough analysis of the pivot system, considering factors like material selection, bearing type, and design geometry."

 

[mark O dell]

The root cause of creaky pivots on full-suspension mountain bikes often stems from the design itself, not just the maintenance. Manufacturers prioritizing aesthetics over functionality is indeed a concern. To address the issue, it's essential to consider alternative designs focusing on robustness and serviceability.

Rather than simply using grease, consider using durable, high-quality bushings and bearings. For instance, IGUS bushings or angular contact bearings can significantly improve lifespan and resistance to creaking. Additionally, using premium greases like Phil Wood or Dumonde Tech can further enhance durability.

As for materials, opt for high-grade aluminum or titanium for pivot hardware instead of lower-quality alloys. These materials are more resistant to wear and tear, reducing the likelihood of creaking.

Lastly, ensure proper pivot tension and alignment. Inadequate tension or misalignment can lead to increased stress on the pivot and subsequent creaking. Utilize torque wrenches and alignment tools to guarantee precision.

Feel free to share your thoughts and experiences with different designs, materials, and bearing types. Let's work together to enhance our bikes' functionality and longevity.

 

[Ken44]

It's true that many full-suspension mountain bikes on the market today are plagued with creaky pivots, a problem that often stems from the industry's emphasis on aesthetics over functionality. But does that mean we should throw in the towel and accept this as an inevitable flaw? Absolutely not!

While it's clear that some manufacturers need to step up their game and prioritize functional design, there are still steps that riders can take to mitigate this issue. For instance, have you considered upgrading your pivot hardware to higher-quality materials or bearing types? This can often make a significant difference in reducing creaks and groans.

Another approach is to look into aftermarket pivot systems that are specifically designed to eliminate these issues. While this may require a bit more investment upfront, the long-term benefits of a quieter, smoother ride are certainly worth it.

Of course, these solutions may not completely eliminate creaky pivots from full-suspension mountain bikes once and for all. But by taking a proactive, aggressive approach to addressing the root cause of the problem, we can at least make a dent in this frustrating issue. So, who's with me? Let's take a stand against creaky pivots and demand better from our bike manufacturers! ‍

 

[fletch68]

Y'know, I feel you on this one. Aesthetics over functionality, it's a common issue in the bike industry. But, giving up? No way.

So, you're suggesting we upgrade pivot hardware, huh? Well, I've tried that route. Sometimes it works, sometimes it's just a temporary fix. Don't get me wrong, it's worth a shot, but let's not pretend it's the end-all-be-all solution.

Aftermarket pivot systems, sure, they can be a game-changer. But, they're pricey and not everyone's got that kind of cash lying around. Plus, it's a bit much to expect riders to shell out extra just to get a bike that functions as it should.

Manufacturers need to step up. They've got to start prioritizing functionality and durability over looking good. It's not rocket science, it's bike design. If we keep demanding better, maybe, just maybe, they'll start listening.

But hey, that's just my two cents.

 

[STaudio]

The notion that creaky pivots on full-suspension mountain bikes are unfixable is simply misguided. Yes, the design flaws are real, and most manufacturers may prioritize aesthetics over functionality. However, that doesn't mean we throw in the towel and accept creaky pivots as an inevitable part of the riding experience.

The root cause of creaks often lies in the type of bearings used and the quality of their installation. Many manufacturers use bushings, which are more prone to creaking than high-quality cartridge bearings. If the bike has bushings, consider upgrading to cartridge bearings.

Another common issue is improper tensioning of the pivot hardware. Over-tightening can cause the bearings to bind, while under-tightening can lead to play and creaking. Using torque wrenches and proper assembly pastes can help ensure even tension and prevent creaks.

Lastly, the material choice of the pivot hardware can contribute to creaking. High-quality, heat-treated steel or titanium hardware is less prone to creaking than lower-grade materials.

So, while the design flaws are real, there are steps riders can take to minimize or eliminate creaky pivots. Don't settle for temporary solutions or dismiss the issue – take control and make the necessary upgrades and adjustments.

 

[fletch68]

I hear ya. Upgrading bearings or tensioning hardware can help, but it's not always a smooth fix. Even torque wrenches and assembly pastes don't guarantee silence. Material choice matters too, sure, but it's not like we all got cash for titanium hardware. And don't get me started on manufacturers prioritizing looks over function. Ain't no quick fix for that.