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  1. According to the wisemen of rbr, the $6000 Colnago C50 is just as fast as my Trek 2000, except that
    the "experience" is different, which is well worth the extra 5100 bucks.

    A bike is like a car, which can "feel fast", but is only a "perception and a feeling".

    Steven Gee is a mechanic for mail trucks, not Lance and his pals.

    And being less wise than the wisemen of rbr, we must believe them.

  2. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Jiyang Chen said:

    According to the wisemen of rbr, the $6000 Colnago C50 is just as fast as my Trek 2000, except
    that the "experience" is different, which is well worth the extra 5100 bucks.

    A bike is like a car, which can "feel fast", but is only a "perception and a feeling".

    The "experience" people refer to is not the sensation of speed. I have a Bianchi Campione, which
    falls roughly in the same price group as your Trek. It's a nice bike, but I see plenty of little
    things that could be improved on it. Now, all these little things come with a price tag, and since
    comparatively few people care about these little things, the price tag gets high pretty fast. Some
    folks think that the "experience" is worth the price jump, some because they place that much value
    in beautiful mechanics, and some for bragging rights too.

    By the same token, a $20 WalMart watch, a $100 Swatch, and a $1000 Rolex all give the time just as
    well, yet some folks will chose to pay 5 times or 50 times the price for basically the same
    functionality. You could say the same thing about the "experience" of fine food vs. Chef Boyardee.

    Your Trek is a nice bike, enjoy riding it, and don't be bothered by the fact that other folks are
    willing to blow more mony for little objective added value.

    jyh.

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  3. "Jiyang Chen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    According to the wisemen of rbr, the $6000 Colnago C50 is just as fast as


    my

    Quoted message said:

    Trek 2000, except that the "experience" is different, which is well worth the extra 5100 bucks.

    A bike is like a car, which can "feel fast", but is only a "perception and


    a

    Quoted message said:

    feeling".

    Steven Gee is a mechanic for mail trucks, not Lance and his pals.

    And being less wise than the wisemen of rbr, we must believe them.

    There's nothing wrong with your Trek 2000 for sure. But there are discernable differences if they
    make any difference in a real sense.

    I have an Atala world championship cyclocross bike from circa '89. It's a great bike and I really
    like it. It's fun to ride. I also have a LeMond Poprad and let me tell you, there's no comparison.
    The LeMond is probably 4 lbs. lighter. It FEELS lighter. It shifts nicer even though they are both
    barend shifters.

    My Eddy Merckx EX ti bike feels tremedously different from my Vitus 992 aluminum bike. I like them
    both but I can feel a difference even though if you measure you can't see any differences. My Basso
    Lotto is a great ride. My Colnagos are great.

    I can't say that any of them are better than your Trek because they ain't. But I like every one of
    them and every one of them is unique in it's own way. Even the Bottechia, the Gitane and the Santa
    Cruz. Did I mention the Merckx Corsa 0.1?

    Does any of this make my experience on the bike better than yours? Hell no. I just like bicycles.
    You might just like to ride.

  4. In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    By the same token, a $20 WalMart watch, a $100 Swatch, and a $1000 Rolex all give the time just as
    well, yet some folks will chose to pay 5 times or 50 times the price for basically the same
    functionality. You could say the same thing about the "experience" of fine food vs. Chef Boyardee.

    Actually, the $1k mechanical Rolex would be hard pressed to be as accurate as the cheaper
    quartz watches.
    ------------
    Alex

  5. "Alex Rodriguez" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden]


    says...

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    By the same token, a $20 WalMart watch, a $100 Swatch, and a $1000 Rolex all give the time just
    as well, yet some folks will chose to pay 5 times or 50 times the price for basically the same
    functionality. You could say the same thing about the "experience" of fine food vs. Chef
    Boyardee.

    Actually, the $1k mechanical Rolex would be hard pressed to be as accurate as the cheaper quartz
    watches.
    ------------
    Alex

    I was at the market the other day and my eye spotted cans of Chef B's spaghetti. Hadn't had any in
    about 40 years so I bought a can and tried it with my daughter. Pretty disgusting stuff. She asked
    me to please micro some macaroni and cheese and make spaghetti from scratch next time.

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