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Wellgo R4: Misengineering or User Error?

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  1. In this case, I'm the user, so it could be my error.

    I picked up some WAM-R4s last summer really cheap but looked
    in good shape. They came without cleats and I finally got
    cleats recently.

    The cleat will not clip into the pedal, no matter *what*
    force is applied, whether the pedal is on the bike and foot
    is in the shoe of if pedal is in a vise and one stands on
    the workbench and tries to clip in. Minimum spring force is
    dialed in! Culprit seems to be the convex bottom of the
    insert to aluminum insert to the Lookish-shaped cleat puts
    the rear of the cleat 1-2 mm above the rear jaw.

    website shows the Lookish cleat with insert as OK for
    R2 and R4:

    wellgo.com.twmodules.php
    tpage&artid=98

    I have heard that these were dodgy pedals but, are they
    really completely misengineered? Or are these cleats
    completely wrong? Or failing the first two, should I check
    into the looney bin?

    Thanks for reading this.

    Chad

    chad AT alumni DOT unh DOT edu

  2. Chad said:


    In this case, I'm the user, so it could be my error.

    I picked up some WAM-R4s last summer really cheap but
    looked in good shape. They came without cleats and I
    finally got cleats recently.


    I would try getting some different cleats?

  3. Chad said:

    I picked up some WAM-R4s last summer really cheap but
    looked in good shape. They came without cleats and I
    finally got cleats recently.

    The cleat will not clip into the pedal, no matter
    *what* force is

    Quoted message said:

    website shows the Lookish cleat with insert as OK for R2
    and R4: wellgo.com.twmodules.php
    1&op=printpage&artid=98

    That link seems to be broken.

    Quoted message said:

    I have heard that these were dodgy pedals but, are they
    really completely misengineered? Or are these cleats
    completely wrong? Or failing the first two, should I check
    into the looney bin?

    I have a set of these pedals collecting dust. I hated them.
    They were very difficult to get into, although otherwise ok.
    Yes, they are misengineered (or mismanufactured). Don't know
    about your cleats. If you're trying to use these pedals,
    then yes, you should definitely check into the looney bin.

    If you're trying to use these pedals with shoes that have
    tread, I doubt they'll work.

    It may be that you _think_ you've got the right position.
    When trying to click in, there's a bunch of ways that the
    cleat can grab the pedal that _feels_ like it's ready for
    you to push down, and only one way that will actually work.
    It doesn't help that the damn pedals are always upside-down
    when you go to use them...
    --
    Rick Onanian

  4. "Rick Onanian" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    It doesn't help that the damn pedals are always upside-
    down when you go to use them...

    One-sided pedals especially suck when you're trying to clip
    in on a dark road somewhere. Don't ask me how I know. One
    pair was enough for me, I wound up stripping them for parts,
    fortunately a lot of the pedal pieces are swappable between
    Wellgo pedals.

  5. "Peter Cole" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<VLo8c.85640$_w.1141517@attbi_s53>...

    Quoted message said:

    "Rick Onanian" <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    It doesn't help that the damn pedals are always upside-
    down when you go to use them...

    One-sided pedals especially suck when you're trying to
    clip in on a dark road somewhere. Don't ask me how I know.
    One pair was enough for me, I wound up stripping them for
    parts, fortunately a lot of the pedal pieces are swappable
    between Wellgo pedals.

    Maybe we should clarify. Poorly designed, improperly
    weighted, one-sided pedals, really suck. A well designed
    single sided pedal like the Shimano SPD-SLs can be entered
    without looking at them. As it should be.

    Life is Good! Jeff

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