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Welding Giant XCX

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  1. Hi,
    I've just discovered a substantial crack in my Giant XCX frame.
    I'm wondering whether it is worth trying to repair. The cost seems
    reasonable to keep the bike alive but the welder won't guarantee work done
    on Al frames. Has anyone had good/bad experiences trying to repair Al dual
    suspension frames?

    The crack is just in front of where the seat[1] tube meets the top tube. It
    is box section tubing and the whole lower face is cracked and a few mm up
    each side. I was planning on getting a new hardtail soon but I'd love to
    keep the duallie as a fun bike.
    Cheers,
    Duncan.

    [1] not really the seat tube but the tube going up from the BB tube at an
    angle to meet the top tube near the middle.
    The crack is on the inside corner of the triangle just below my left knee in
    this pic:
    http://fullgas.fotopic.net/p7399910.html

  2. "Duncan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi,
    I've just discovered a substantial crack in my Giant XCX frame.
    I'm wondering whether it is worth trying to repair. The cost seems
    reasonable to keep the bike alive but the welder won't guarantee work done
    on Al frames. Has anyone had good/bad experiences trying to repair Al


    dual

    Quoted message said:

    suspension frames?

    The crack is just in front of where the seat[1] tube meets the top tube.


    It

    Quoted message said:

    is box section tubing and the whole lower face is cracked and a few mm up
    each side. I was planning on getting a new hardtail soon but I'd love to
    keep the duallie as a fun bike.
    Cheers,
    Duncan.

    [1] not really the seat tube but the tube going up from the BB tube at an
    angle to meet the top tube near the middle.
    The crack is on the inside corner of the triangle just below my left knee


    in

    Quoted message said:

    this pic:
    http://fullgas.fotopic.net/p7399910.html

    Aluminum should have a heat treat process after welding. As you won't be
    able to do that, the welder is being practical about not offering a
    guarantee.
    By the picture you don't seem to be a clydesdale so I'd "guess" you'll be OK
    with using the bike as a second.
    No jumpiing, Check the welded area often. YMMV

    Quoted message said:

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    DTW .../\.../\.../\...

    I've spent most of my money on mountain biking and windsurfing.
    The rest I've just wasted.

  3. Duncan said:

    Hi,
    I've just discovered a substantial crack in my Giant XCX frame.
    I'm wondering whether it is worth trying to repair. The cost seems
    reasonable to keep the bike alive but the welder won't guarantee work
    done on Al frames. Has anyone had good/bad experiences trying to
    repair Al dual suspension frames?

    The crack is just in front of where the seat[1] tube meets the top
    tube. It is box section tubing and the whole lower face is cracked
    and a few mm up each side. I was planning on getting a new hardtail
    soon but I'd love to keep the duallie as a fun bike.
    Cheers,
    Duncan.

    [1] not really the seat tube but the tube going up from the BB tube
    at an angle to meet the top tube near the middle.
    The crack is on the inside corner of the triangle just below my left
    knee in this pic:
    http://fullgas.fotopic.net/p7399910.html

    Not sure where you are located, so I don't know how the different warrenty
    programs work around the world In the US anyway you should be able to get a
    warrenty replacement. According to Giant, they have a lifetime warrenty on
    their frames. http://tinyurl.com/6um6s. Either way, talk to the dealer and
    see if they can help you out. Personnally, I'd prefer a new factory frame
    to a questionable repair, even if the PIA factor is a bit higher.

    Tom

  4. "Duncan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi,
    I've just discovered a substantial crack in my Giant XCX frame.
    I'm wondering whether it is worth trying to repair. The cost seems
    reasonable to keep the bike alive but the welder won't guarantee work done
    on Al frames. Has anyone had good/bad experiences trying to repair Al


    dual

    Quoted message said:

    suspension frames?

    The crack is just in front of where the seat[1] tube meets the top tube.


    It

    Quoted message said:

    is box section tubing and the whole lower face is cracked and a few mm up
    each side. I was planning on getting a new hardtail soon but I'd love to
    keep the duallie as a fun bike.
    Cheers,
    Duncan.

    [1] not really the seat tube but the tube going up from the BB tube at an
    angle to meet the top tube near the middle.
    The crack is on the inside corner of the triangle just below my left knee


    in

    Quoted message said:

    this pic:
    http://fullgas.fotopic.net/p7399910.html

    Don't have it welded unless you plan on stripping on the paint (and parts,
    obviously) off the frame, have it welded, have it heat treated, check the
    alignment to make sure it didn't warp in the heat treatment, etc.

    Aluminum gets extremely weak when welded, the heat treatment realigns the
    crystal structure and makes it essentially one piece of aluminum (ideally).
    Without heat treating, you'll crack that frame in one ride.

    Jon Bond

  5. Duncan said:

    Hi,
    I've just discovered a substantial crack in my Giant XCX frame.
    I'm wondering whether it is worth trying to repair. The cost seems
    reasonable to keep the bike alive but the welder won't guarantee work
    done on Al frames. Has anyone had good/bad experiences trying to
    repair Al dual suspension frames?

    The crack is just in front of where the seat[1] tube meets the top
    tube. It is box section tubing and the whole lower face is cracked
    and a few mm up each side. I was planning on getting a new hardtail
    soon but I'd love to keep the duallie as a fun bike.
    Cheers,
    Duncan.

    [1] not really the seat tube but the tube going up from the BB tube
    at an angle to meet the top tube near the middle.
    The crack is on the inside corner of the triangle just below my left
    knee in this pic:
    http://fullgas.fotopic.net/p7399910.html

    Get someone who really knows that they're doing with Aluminium. There's
    bound to be a reason why there are aluminium welding specialists 😉.

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