Weight Loss and Heart rate

Kazu said:

I wanted to ask this newsgroup a question about Weight
Loss, and Heart Rate.

What is more beneficial, to ride long rides of say 50 to
80 kms, and keep between my recommended training zone of
65% to 85% of my maximum heart rate, or go faster and stay
above 85% for a while, sometimes peaking to 95%.

You want to go as hard as you can, while not going too hard
that you burn
yourself out too early thus not spend a sufficient amount of
time working.

I used to spend about 35min (going hard) on the road
almost daily. Nowadays, (since I'm commuting to work on
the bicycle as well) I wouldn't bother getting out of bed
for a recreational ride of any less than several hours.

If you want to loose the most fat for the least amount of
effort, my advice, if you want to take it, would be any
one of the variety of weight-loss clinics around. Check
the phone book. There is some relationship between the
body's "efficiency" regarding heart rate the the
percentage of fat lost verses muscle, but this becomes a
"most fat for least effort" issue, where the above
suggestion would better serve (with likely better
results) instead.

Quoted message said:

Is this more beneficial if I work harder,

Generally speaking, going slower over a longer period of
time is better, but that doesn't mean a casual sunday
stroll, you need to work. You might start aiming for about
an hour, and go as hard as you can while still being able
to do it for that long. If you're just starting out, it
may very well be just a casual sunday stroll, that's fine,
you'll get faster as you progress.

Don't let anyone tell you 15min a day is enough. It's not.
It takes me that long just to warm up.

Quoted message said:

or is it dangerous,

I wouldn't say it's dangerous, your heart and muscles are
somewhat self-regulating, in that they simply won't *let*
you go harder if you've reached your capability limit.
However, if you insist on going too hard too fast, the several-
day recovery time (along with the associated muscle pain)
will most certainly NOT help with self-encouragement. Nor
will it help with results, since you've burnt yourself out
too quickly, thus not spending enough time working out.

Quoted message said:

what should I do to acheive good weight loss ? Thanks for
any feedback.

Depends on if you want it done quickly, permanently, or
both. You would probably be best off with professional
advice, since they can taylor a workout schedule that
suits you, as well as possibly initiate a lifestyle change
that can prevent the reason you're eating in excess in the
first place.

A bicycle is just one way of doing it. I picked it on
several criteria:

-Good aerobic activity. -It had to be interesting (I get
bored easily). -It had to be reasonably priced (don't spend
lots on your first bike, you'll apprecieate the better bikes
you buy later, and you won't be wasting money if you find
out bikes don't suit you) -It had to be convenient to get to
(can't beat leaving the house WITH the bike) -I had to be
able to do it at any time of day (I had a variable
availability schedule) -Low impact. (My joints weren't the
best when I was born, so I have to take care of them).

A bike suited that purpose best. I've gone through three
bikes in 15 years (progressively lighter and higher
quality), my current fourth is a recumbent. My body didn't
appear to agree with the upright bike geometry (stupid
amounts of back muscle pain).

Now that I'm commuting, it turns out that a bike is faster
than trains (owing to the "wonderful" rail system we have
here in sydney).

Can't beat the motorcycle for longer distances, but it
hasn't proved to be a problem so far.
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Quoted message said:

If you want to loose the most fat for the least amount
of effort, my advice, if you want to take it, would be
any one of the variety of weight-loss clinics around.
Check the phone book.

Why on earth would anyone want to get their hard earned to
those [censored]? There's no magic to weight loss. Eat less!
Exercise more! Repeat!

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Quoted message said:

I wanted to ask this newsgroup a question about Weight
Loss, and Heart Rate.

What is more beneficial, to ride long rides of say 50 to
80 kms, and keep between my recommended training zone of
65% to 85% of my maximum heart rate, or go faster and stay
above 85% for a while, sometimes peaking to 95%.

This has been discussed before. The so-called fat-burning
zone is [censored]. You'll burn more calories by working
harder for longer and it's as simple as that.

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Quoted message said:

Is this more beneficial if I work harder, or is it
dangerous, what should I do to acheive good weight loss ?

Eat less. Exercise more. Repeat.

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