Walking down then up - Does it count?

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But just checkout the Nuttall classification...

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The definition of a Nuttall is "any summit of 2000ft (610m) or more
which rises above its surroundings on all sides by at least 50ft
(15m)".

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Only 15m of ascent!!!!!

A signification omission from the above definition can be found in the
title of the books - "The Mountains of England and Wales".

As to the rest of the argument - No Comment. :-)

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Roger Chapman so far this year 53 summits
New - 27 (Marilyns 13, Nuttalls 5, Outlying Fells 10)
Repeats - 26 (Marilyns 10, Nuttalls 17, Wainwrights 12, Outlying Fells 0)

Roger said:

A signification omission from the above definition can be found in the
title of the books - "The Mountains of England and Wales".

Have both books 1 [Wales] & 2 [England] but fail to recognise the
significant omission from the concise definition previously posted?

Perhaps you can enlighten me?

David.

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Roger said:

A signification omission from the above definition can be found in the
title of the books - "The Mountains of England and Wales".

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Have both books 1 [Wales] & 2 [England] but fail to recognise the
significant omission from the concise definition previously posted?

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Perhaps you can enlighten me?

Certainly but you don't make things at all easy by deleting your
definition from your reply. I had to cut and paste it back in below and
modify the >>>

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The definition of a Nuttall is "any summit of 2000ft (610m) or more
which rises above its surroundings on all sides by at least 50ft
(15m)".

Just consider how wide ranging the 'any' is in your definition compared
to the scope of the Nuttalls. You failed to qualify it with 'in England
and Wales'.

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Roger Chapman so far this year 53 summits
New - 27 (Marilyns 13, Nuttalls 5, Outlying Fells 10)
Repeats - 26 (Marilyns 10, Nuttalls 17, Wainwrights 12, Outlying Fells 0)

Roger said:

Just consider how wide ranging the 'any' is in your definition compared
to the scope of the Nuttalls. You failed to qualify it with 'in England
and Wales'.

Apologies.....I was assuming that readers would assume that it was just
a comparison not a literal.

Thanks for clarifying my inaccuracy...

Cheers David.

Some might not agree ;-)

On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 21:12:16 +0100, Paul Rooney <[email hidden]>

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On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 12:57:44 GMT, [email hidden] (Richard Webb)

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IMO claiming 'summits' is itself a farce.

Its just a game... Lighten up

As is Usenet.

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On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 08:17:42 +0100
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Some might not agree ;-)

Life's a game. All aspects of life are a game. Playing cards, getting
through an interview, blagging your way out of a fixed penalty driving
offence, writing a virus, dropping a bomb, scraping the body parts of
the suicide into a black bag. All the sub-games have rules, some of
which can be ignored, some of which can be manipulated with advantage.
Sometimes the only important rule is "don't get caught" (or even "don't
fall off" ;-) ). And sometimes people are capable of playing by
different rules, which can be perceived as somewhat unfair by others.
That is why there /are/ rules. Which brings me back, I think, to the
general vicinity of where I started.

Oh - it /was/ a circular walk.

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REMEMBER: "Stressed" spelled backward is "desserts"

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Oppose ID cards and the database state - sign the pledge at
http://www.pledgebank.com/refuse

Why???

We're all already on several state databases... DVLA, birth and
death register, National Health, Inland revenue, etc so why worry
about another?

On Fri, 09 Sep 2005 19:33:19 GMT, [email hidden] (Peter)
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| On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 08:17:42 +0100, Simon Caldwell
| <[email hidden]> wrote:
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| >Oppose ID cards and the database state - sign the pledge at
| >http://www.pledgebank.com/refuse
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| Why???
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| We're all already on several state databases... DVLA, birth and
| death register, National Health, Inland revenue, etc so why worry
| about another?

I *always* carry several means of identification when out of the house,
which anyone can see if they ask. Why should another make any difference?

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Dave Fawthrop <dave hyphenologist co uk>
"Intelligent Design?" my knees say *not*.
"Intelligent Design?" my back says *not*.

On Fri, 09 Sep 2005 19:33:19 GMT, [email hidden] (Peter)

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Simon Caldwell said:

Oppose ID cards and the database state - sign the pledge at
http://www.pledgebank.com/refuse

Why???

Because we're freeborn men, not owned by our government.

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We're all already on several state databases... DVLA, birth and
death register, National Health, Inland revenue, etc so why worry
about another?

You're very naive!
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On Fri, 09 Sep 2005 21:15:00 +0100, Paul Rooney <[email hidden]>

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We're all already on several state databases... DVLA, birth and
death register, National Health, Inland revenue, etc so why worry
about another?

You're very naive!

But, but.... the Govt says that only Bad People need worry about ID
cards and I believe them because I'm a Good Person. I bet the Bad
People are really, really worried about ID cards. They won't be able
to do anything bad ever again.

Judith
(Age 6 and 3/4)

Judith said:

On Fri, 09 Sep 2005 21:15:00 +0100, Paul Rooney <[email hidden]>

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We're all already on several state databases... DVLA, birth and
death register, National Health, Inland revenue, etc so why worry
about another?

You're very naive!

But, but.... the Govt says that only Bad People need worry about ID
cards and I believe them because I'm a Good Person. I bet the Bad
People are really, really worried about ID cards. They won't be able
to do anything bad ever again.

Judith
(Age 6 and 3/4)

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On Fri, 09 Sep 2005 19:33:19 GMT, [email hidden] (Peter)

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Simon Caldwell said:

Oppose ID cards and the database state - sign the pledge at
http://www.pledgebank.com/refuse

Why???

Because we're freeborn men, not owned by our government.

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We're all already on several state databases... DVLA, birth and
death register, National Health, Inland revenue, etc so why worry
about another?

You're very naive!
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I see the bad people have got round chip and pin already. Why are they so
damn clever???

Graham

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On Fri, 09 Sep 2005 19:33:19 GMT, [email hidden] (Peter)

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On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 08:17:42 +0100, Simon Caldwell
<[email hidden]> wrote:

>Oppose ID cards and the database state - sign the pledge at
>http://www.pledgebank.com/refuse

Why???

Because we're freeborn men, not owned by our government.

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We're all already on several state databases... DVLA, birth and
death register, National Health, Inland revenue, etc so why worry
about another?

You're very naive!
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I see the bad people have got round chip and pin already. Why are they so
damn clever???

Probably all went to Oxford!
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Paul Rooney <[email hidden]> writes

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You're very naive!

How so?

They heavies don't say: "We know where you live" nowadays,
they say "We have your postcode".
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On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 10:04:02 +0100, Gordon <[email hidden]>

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Paul Rooney <[email hidden]> writes

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You're very naive!

How so?

A(nother) major step towards a totalitarian 'socialist' state?

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They heavies don't say: "We know where you live" nowadays,
they say "We have your postcode".

Mine's not static at the moment (-:
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"Paul Rooney" <[email hidden]> wrote

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I see the bad people have got round chip and pin already. Why are

they so

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damn clever???

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Probably all went to Oxford!

I went to Oxford once. Didn't make me clever.

Yesterday I did 32 km around the Chilterns with a total altitude gain of
greater than 2000 metres. So, is this equivalent to going up and down
Snowdon twice with a 20-mile walk thrown in for good measure?

I'd be interested in comments on this proposition, especially from the
rough, tough mountain men here <g>.

Regards,
Nick.
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Caversham, Reading, England
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On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 13:20:01 +0100, Nick Hopton <[email hidden]>

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Yesterday I did 32 km around the Chilterns with a total altitude gain of
greater than 2000 metres. So, is this equivalent to going up and down
Snowdon twice with a 20-mile walk thrown in for good measure?

Probably. Only difference is that you don't have any continuous uphill
slogs, so maybe it's a bit easier?
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"Paul Rooney" <[email hidden]> wrote

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I see the bad people have got round chip and pin already. Why are

they so

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damn clever???

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Probably all went to Oxford!

I went to Oxford once. Didn't make me clever.

Should've given it a few more times then.

Graham

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Yesterday I did 32 km around the Chilterns with a total altitude gain of
greater than 2000 metres. So, is this equivalent to going up and down
Snowdon twice with a 20-mile walk thrown in for good measure?

I'd be interested in comments on this proposition, especially from the
rough, tough mountain men here <g>.

No. You could do the equivalent of climbing Everest after a few days :-)

Graham[1]

[1] rough, didn't have a shave and tough [2] cos I'm > 50.
[2] as in old boots.