US Cyclocross national champions

[Bob Schwartz]

Each and every jersey ever awarded.

http://www.cvccbike.com/ten_years/us_cross.html

 

[MagillaGorilla]

Bob Schwartz wrote:
> Each and every jersey ever awarded.
>
> http://www.cvccbike.com/ten_years/us_cross.html



All those names are being programmed into the Scott Mercer Terminator.

One day all you Party Boys will learn you don't ride a goddamn bike in
mudd and talk about it like you dropped Rebellin on the Mur. The good
news is I sent the Governor of Kansas a certified letter requesting he
release BTK on a weekend furlough for park cleanup detail this weekend.

Good luck, you travelling circus Wizard of Oz freaks.


Magilla

 

[Bret]

On Dec 13, 9:14 pm, Bob Schwartz <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Each and every jersey ever awarded.
>
> http://www.cvccbike.com/ten_years/us_cross.html

When I saw the subject, my immediate reaction was, "Let's see if he's
got Mike Carnahan". Well you do, so good work. Mike is someone I knew
briefly when I first started riding in Rochester, NY in 1982. He also
won a senior road championship and then later he crowned his career
with a FM road championship.

Bret

 

[MagillaGorilla]

Bret wrote:

> On Dec 13, 9:14 pm, Bob Schwartz <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>Each and every jersey ever awarded.
>>
>>http://www.cvccbike.com/ten_years/us_cross.html
>
>
> When I saw the subject, my immediate reaction was, "Let's see if he's
> got Mike Carnahan". Well you do, so good work. Mike is someone I knew
> briefly when I first started riding in Rochester, NY in 1982. He also
> won a senior road championship and then later he crowned his career
> with a FM road championship.
>
> Bret


Sounds like he wasn't required to fill out a W-2 since he didn't gross
over $600.

The person who places the tiara on Miss Puerto Rico makes more money
than that.


Magilla

 

[Donald Munro]

MagillaGorilla wrote:
> The person who places the tiara on Miss Puerto Rico makes more money than
> that.

Dumbass,
That guys in it for the fringe benefits.

 

[Ryan Cousineau]

In article <[email protected]>,
Bob Schwartz <[email protected]> wrote:

> Each and every jersey ever awarded.
>
> http://www.cvccbike.com/ten_years/us_cross.html

Somehow you managed to miss mentioning the absolute coolest part of that
page: the photo of Leroy Tyger Johnson, the first ever (and three-time)
US CX champ, apparently in his nats jersey:

http://www.cvccbike.com/ten_years/johnson.jpg

(that's a big photo, btw).

Photo seems to be a poster or program cover for the 1968 nats.

I sincerely hope that this means there are some photos of the early
events to be unearthed. I have some completely ludicrous retro-clothing
reasons for wanting them. Let's just say I recently spent several hours
on eBay finding exactly the right pair of socks, and yes I realize even
mentioning that is probably massive monkey-baiting.

--
Ryan Cousineau [email protected] http://www.wiredcola.com/
"My scenarios may give the impression I could be an excellent crook.
Not true - I am a talented lawyer." - Sandy in rec.bicycles.racing

 

[John Forrest Tomlinson]

On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 10:26:45 GMT, Ryan Cousineau <[email protected]>
wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>,
> Bob Schwartz <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Each and every jersey ever awarded.
>>
>> http://www.cvccbike.com/ten_years/us_cross.html
>
>Somehow you managed to miss mentioning the absolute coolest part of that
>page: the photo of Leroy Tyger Johnson, the first ever (and three-time)
>US CX champ, apparently in his nats jersey:
>
>http://www.cvccbike.com/ten_years/johnson.jpg
>
>(that's a big photo, btw)

Wow. thanks for sharing that.

 

[William Asher]

Donald Munro wrote:

> MagillaGorilla wrote:
>> The person who places the tiara on Miss Puerto Rico makes more money
>> than that.
>
> Dumbass,
> That guys in it for the fringe benefits.
>
>

I thought it was a titular position.

--
Bill Asher

 

[Donald Munro]

MagillaGorilla wrote:
>>> The person who places the tiara on Miss Puerto Rico makes more money
>>> than that.

Donald Munro wrote:
>> That guys in it for the fringe benefits.

William Asher wrote:
> I thought it was a titular position.

Just like being the official WADA podium girl breast implant
checker.

 

[Howard Kveck]

In article <rcousine-380D52.02264414122007@[74.223.185.199.nw.nuvox.net]>,
Ryan Cousineau <[email protected]> wrote:

> In article <[email protected]>,
> Bob Schwartz <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Each and every jersey ever awarded.
> >
> > http://www.cvccbike.com/ten_years/us_cross.html
>
> Somehow you managed to miss mentioning the absolute coolest part of that
> page: the photo of Leroy Tyger Johnson, the first ever (and three-time)
> US CX champ, apparently in his nats jersey:
>
> http://www.cvccbike.com/ten_years/johnson.jpg
>
> (that's a big photo, btw).
>
> Photo seems to be a poster or program cover for the 1968 nats.

I don't know what else he got for that win, but at least the trophy is nicely
substantial.

--
tanx,
Howard

Safe when used as directed...

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

 

[Les Earnest]

Bob Schwartz wrote:
> Each and every jersey ever awarded.
>
> http://www.cvccbike.com/ten_years/us_cross.html

As I pointed out some time ago, the "Cyclocross National Championships"
before 1975 were bogus -- they were local events that were called
national championships without authorization from ABLA. The Illinois
folks managed to hoodwink the USCF staff into listing this
misinformation in the back of the Rule Book once much later but it then
was removed.

-Les Earnest, editor of the USCF Rule Book, 1979-85

 

[Ryan Cousineau]

In article <[email protected]>,
Les Earnest <[email protected]> wrote:

> Bob Schwartz wrote:
> > Each and every jersey ever awarded.
> >
> > http://www.cvccbike.com/ten_years/us_cross.html
>
> As I pointed out some time ago, the "Cyclocross National Championships"
> before 1975 were bogus -- they were local events that were called
> national championships without authorization from ABLA. The Illinois
> folks managed to hoodwink the USCF staff into listing this
> misinformation in the back of the Rule Book once much later but it then
> was removed.
>
> -Les Earnest, editor of the USCF Rule Book, 1979-85

Doesn't matter. That '67 "Nats" jersey is cool enough to make itself
legit.

--
Ryan Cousineau [email protected] http://www.wiredcola.com/
"My scenarios may give the impression I could be an excellent crook.
Not true - I am a talented lawyer." - Sandy in rec.bicycles.racing

 

[Bob Schwartz]

Les Earnest wrote:
> Bob Schwartz wrote:
>> Each and every jersey ever awarded.
>>
>> http://www.cvccbike.com/ten_years/us_cross.html
>
> As I pointed out some time ago, the "Cyclocross National Championships"
> before 1975 were bogus -- they were local events that were called
> national championships without authorization from ABLA. The Illinois
> folks managed to hoodwink the USCF staff into listing this
> misinformation in the back of the Rule Book once much later but it then
> was removed.
>
> -Les Earnest, editor of the USCF Rule Book, 1979-85

Well, I asked Tyger about that. He says he's got Stars 'n' Stripes
jerseys and ABLA National Championship medals from those races.
And really, I don't think your claim that these races were run
without ABLA authorization, for 7 years, yes, for seven years, is
based in reality. I mean, its not like they were running in stealth
mode.

http://www.cvccbike.com/ten_years/johnson.jpg

If he's got ABLA medals then they had ABLA authorization.

I asked him if he's got newspaper clippings from those early races.
We'll see what shows up.

Bob Schwartz

 

[Tom Kunich]

"Bob Schwartz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Les Earnest wrote:
>> Bob Schwartz wrote:
>>> Each and every jersey ever awarded.
>>>
>>> http://www.cvccbike.com/ten_years/us_cross.html
>>
>> As I pointed out some time ago, the "Cyclocross National Championships"
>> before 1975 were bogus -- they were local events that were called
>> national championships without authorization from ABLA. The Illinois
>> folks managed to hoodwink the USCF staff into listing this misinformation
>> in the back of the Rule Book once much later but it then was removed.
>>
>> -Les Earnest, editor of the USCF Rule Book, 1979-85
>
> Well, I asked Tyger about that. He says he's got Stars 'n' Stripes
> jerseys and ABLA National Championship medals from those races.
> And really, I don't think your claim that these races were run
> without ABLA authorization, for 7 years, yes, for seven years, is
> based in reality. I mean, its not like they were running in stealth
> mode.
>
> http://www.cvccbike.com/ten_years/johnson.jpg
>
> If he's got ABLA medals then they had ABLA authorization.
>
> I asked him if he's got newspaper clippings from those early races.
> We'll see what shows up.

That's pretty convincing Bob.

I am still of the opinion that we ought to separate the US from the UCI
completely and hold real racing here without looking to a bunch of old fools
in Europe.

 

[[email protected]]

On Dec 28, 4:45 pm, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> "Bob Schwartz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:[email protected]...
>
>
>
> > Les Earnest wrote:
> >> Bob Schwartz wrote:
> >>> Each and every jersey ever awarded.
>
> >>>http://www.cvccbike.com/ten_years/us_cross.html
>
> >> As I pointed out some time ago, the "Cyclocross National Championships"
> >> before 1975 were bogus -- they were local events that were called
> >> national championships without authorization from ABLA. The Illinois
> >> folks managed to hoodwink the USCF staff into listing this misinformation
> >> in the back of the Rule Book once much later but it then was removed.
>
> >> -Les Earnest, editor of the USCF Rule Book, 1979-85
>
> > Well, I asked Tyger about that. He says he's got Stars 'n' Stripes
> > jerseys and ABLA National Championship medals from those races.
> > And really, I don't think your claim that these races were run
> > without ABLA authorization, for 7 years, yes, for seven years, is
> > based in reality. I mean, its not like they were running in stealth
> > mode.
>
> >http://www.cvccbike.com/ten_years/johnson.jpg
>
> > If he's got ABLA medals then they had ABLA authorization.
>
> > I asked him if he's got newspaper clippings from those early races.
> > We'll see what shows up.
>
> That's pretty convincing Bob.
>
> I am still of the opinion that we ought to separate the US from the UCI
> completely and hold real racing here without looking to a bunch of old fools
> in Europe.

The US and A have got best old fools in the world!

 

[Tom Kunich]

<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:f17afd6e-af7f-4819-9090-ff2fd9257ca7@d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
> The US and A have got best old fools in the world!

Maybe you ought to look around you and see what's happening in the world. Do
you realize that you cannot criticize the religion of Allah in Great Britain
now by rule of law? Or very soon in Canada?

Curiouser and curiouser that the Democrats who proclaim themselves the party
of the people are doing their level best to turn this country into a den of
slaves working for the government.

 

[[email protected]]

On Dec 29, 12:45 am, "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote:
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:f17afd6e-af7f-4819-9090-ff2fd9257ca7@d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > The US and A have got best old fools in the world!
>
> Maybe you ought to look around you and see what's happening in the world. Do
> you realize that you cannot criticize the religion of Allah in Great Britain
> now by rule of law? Or very soon in Canada?
>
> Curiouser and curiouser that the Democrats who proclaim themselves the party
> of the people are doing their level best to turn this country into a den of
> slaves working for the government.

that's horrible. the slaves should be in china making ipods.

 

[Donald Munro]

Tom Kunich wrote:
>> Curiouser and curiouser that the Democrats who proclaim themselves the
>> party of the people are doing their level best to turn this country into
>> a den of slaves working for the government.

[email protected] wrote:
> that's horrible. the slaves should be in china making ipods.

Or adopting academic primates.

 

[Fred Fredburger]

Tom Kunich wrote:
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:f17afd6e-af7f-4819-9090-ff2fd9257ca7@d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> The US and A have got best old fools in the world!
>
> Maybe you ought to look around you and see what's happening in the
> world. Do you realize that you cannot criticize the religion of Allah in
> Great Britain now by rule of law? Or very soon in Canada?
>
> Curiouser and curiouser that the Democrats who proclaim themselves the
> party of the people are doing their level best to turn this country into
> a den of slaves working for the government.
>

Let me fix this for you:

"...the Democrats who proclaim themselves the party of the people are
doing their level best to turn this country into a den of slaves working
for the Democratic Party controlled government."

The way you wrote it wasn't wrong, it just failed to distinguish them
from the Republicans who want to turn this country into a den of slaves
working for the Republican Party controlled government.

It's a huge distinction and your failure to properly separate the aims
of the two parties disturbed me.

 

[[email protected]]

On Dec 29, 2:45 am, Donald Munro <[email protected]> wrote:
> Tom Kunich wrote:
> >> Curiouser and curiouser that the Democrats who proclaim themselves the
> >> party of the people are doing their level best to turn this country into
> >> a den of slaves working for the government.
> [email protected] wrote:
> > that's horrible. the slaves should be in china making ipods.
>
> Or adopting academic primates.

someone will have to work in the madrassas.