Upgrading from FRED to Master's Fattie

Booker C. Bense said:

I'm trying to get an idea of how fast Masters 45+ racing is in
NorCal. I've done enough bike racing over the years to know that
if you can't hang w/the pack it's pretty much a waste of time.
How fast do you have to ride to hang w/the old guys? Typical
times for a solo ride on various classic SF Bay area rides would
be greatly appreciated. Bears loop, Alpine/PV/Sandhill, Old La
Honda. My guess is that I need to be able to do the Bears loop
under a hour or the Alpine/PV/Sandhill loop in under 30 mins.

If I can't hang with the noon ride should I just not bother...

_ Booker C. Bense

I think you may be approaching this all wrong. No one named Booker C.
Bense is likely to hang in any race, much less at the stratospheric
level of NorCal masters racing. I suggest a name change as the first
step. Something like Dirk or Ivan perhaps? Plain old Larry seems to
work ok too. Good luck with that.

Bret

Booker C. Bense said:

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I'm trying to get an idea of how fast Masters 45+ racing is in
NorCal. I've done enough bike racing over the years to know that
if you can't hang w/the pack it's pretty much a waste of time.
How fast do you have to ride to hang w/the old guys? Typical
times for a solo ride on various classic SF Bay area rides would
be greatly appreciated. Bears loop, Alpine/PV/Sandhill, Old La
Honda. My guess is that I need to be able to do the Bears loop
under a hour or the Alpine/PV/Sandhill loop in under 30 mins.

If I can't hang with the noon ride should I just not bother...

Dumbass -

If you acquire Masters Fattie Self Importance Syndrome, going from Fred
to Masters Fattie will be a downgrade.

thanks,

K. Gringioni.

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I'm trying to get an idea of how fast Masters 45+ racing is in
NorCal. I've done enough bike racing over the years to know that
if you can't hang w/the pack it's pretty much a waste of time.
How fast do you have to ride to hang w/the old guys? Typical
times for a solo ride on various classic SF Bay area rides would
be greatly appreciated. Bears loop, Alpine/PV/Sandhill, Old La
Honda. My guess is that I need to be able to do the Bears loop
under a hour or the Alpine/PV/Sandhill loop in under 30 mins.

If I can't hang with the noon ride should I just not bother...

_ Booker C. Bense

The open 45+ races can be pretty fast. We are starting to see mroe 45+
4/5 races in Nor Cal and those are slower than the open races. Most Nor
Cal races have the option of doing 35+ 4/5 races which in mot cases
will be slower than the 45+ open races.

At the Fremont Crit though the 45/55+ open race was one of the slower
ones on the day with even the Cat 5s, and the 35+ 4/5 races having many
laps faster than the fastest 45/55+ lap.