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A . B . Chung F · 2004-05-25T10:35:51+00:00

--------------------------------- | The Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD FAQ | | Version 4.35, May, 2004 | --------------------------------- Introduction ------------ New people arriving in sci.med.cardiology (s.m.c.) are often puzzled and troubled by the vitriol directed at Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD (Dr. Chung) and want to better understand the reasons for the hatred that some folks have for him. This FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) does provide some truthful answers (there are versions of this FAQ put out by detractors that are useful only for comparison purposes). All answers given herein can be independently verified either via Google or by using the third-party resources at http://tinyurl.com/26rfr. This FAQ has been posted in the past in a manner that permits authentication. The veracity of both the posting email address and domain name can be independently confirmed via Google (http://makeashorterlink.com/?G5EF42A77). The FAQ is arranged in typical FAQ form, i.e. a series of questions followed by simple truthful answers. For those who don't wish to read the whole FAQ, the following summary is provided. Summary ------- Ds. Chung is a well-respected licensed cardiologist, who is board-certified in internal medicine and cardiology (cardiovascular medicine). In this capacity, he responds truthfully to medical questions on s.m.c.(http://makeashorterlink.com/?V6AB24B48 and http://makeashorterlink.com/?Y20826ED7) and continues to freely help people to this day (http://makeashorterlink.com/?Z3D922048). He does this out of sincere altruism when he has spare time outside his private cardiology practice, where he sees patients as a board-certified cardiologist. If that was all he were, there would probably be no controversy. The controversy arises from Dr. Chung being Christian, in particular: o He continues to publicly profess that Christ is his Lord and Savior (http://makeashorterlink.com/?T2C722E38). o He freely helps people to lose weight in an altruistic Christian fashion (http://tinyurl.com/2p7ud). o When attacked on the above issues, he turns the other cheek in a Christian manner (http://makeashorterlink.com/?Q1B752E38). o When challenged about his faith in Christ, he witnesses steadfastly without hatred (http://makeashorterlink.com/?A5B9214A7). o When insulted for his faith in Christ, he openly calls it a blessing (http://makeashorterlink.com/?Q5E725E38). o He remains truthful, as a servant of Christ, despite being maliciously libeled and defamed (http://tinyurl.com/ibvn). o Other Christians have affirmed Dr. Chung's strong faith in Christ (http://makeashorterlink.com/?W3A762E38). The above lists only the highlights of Dr. Chung's Christian behavior on s.m.c. If anything, it understates it. Everything can be verified in the Google archives. He witnesses to all at http://tinyurl.com/2ndof. People arrive in this group looking for help. Dr. Chung has graciously provided this over several years (http://makeashorterlink.com/?B60B12048). Dr. Chung consistently demonstrates the breadth of his knowledge, training, and experience (http://makeashorterlink.com/?Z3DA25048). This is archived many times over in Google. List of Questions Answered -------------------------- 1. Who is Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD? 2. What is the Charter of s.m.c.? 3. Aren't Christian discussions covered by the Charter? 4. So Dr. Chung is Christian... What's the problem with that? 5. But it's just a little "tag line" in his signature. 6. But I'm a Christian Too! 7. Well, why not just ignore his Christian nature? 8. But isn't it wonderful that Dr. Chung offers this free medical information out of the goodness of his heart? 9. How does a cardiologist have so much time to spend on Usenet? 10. Won't challenging Dr. Chung drive people away? 11. Doesn't the "fault" for all those posts lay with those who challenge Dr. Chung? 12. Why do I see so many "ad hominem" attacks? 13. I'm sick of seeing all this! 14. What is the Two Pound Diet? 15. Is discussion of the Two Pound Diet "on topic"? 16. Who is Mu? 17. What is Mu's role? 18. Who is Steve? 19. What is Steve's role? 20. Who is Bob? 21. What is Bob's role? 22. Who is Stephen? 23. What is Stephen's role? 24. Is this spam? 25. Who is the author of this FAQ? 26. Do Dr. Chung's posts fit the definition of "spam" as some allege? 27. Are Mu, John, CarolT, and Dr. Chung the same person as some allege? 28. Who is Dr. Andrew B Chung, MD/PhD? ------------------------------------- Dt. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD is a licensed doubly board- certified cardiologist practicing cardiovascular medicine in Atlanta, Georgia, USA. His signature contains a link to http://tinyurl.com/255v2, which is consistent with his posts and qualifications. 2. What is the Charter of s.m.c.? --------------------------------- The purpose of this newsgroup is to establish electronic media for communication between health care providers, scientists and other individuals with interest in the cardiovascular field. Such communications will provide quick and efficacious means to exchange information and knowledge, and offer problems to solutions. The sci.med.cardiology newsgroup will welcome participants who are health care providers, trainees, researchers, students or recipients with interest in the field of cardiovascular problems." (http://tinyurl.com/3fv8k) 3. Aren't Christian discussions covered by the charter? ------------------------------------------------------- They are if these discussions represent "communication between health care providers, scientists and other individuals with interest in the cardiovascular field." It should be noted that Christ remains a healthcare provider (http://tinyurl.com/2ndof), who has demonstrated an interest in the cardiovascular field when He "resuscitated" Lazarus. 4. So Dr. Chung is Christian... What's the problem with that? ------------------------------------------------------------ - Some people are fiercely anti-christian. 5. But it's just a little "tag line" in his signature, isn't it? ------------------------------------------------------ ---------- Yes it is. But it offends those who are anti-christian. 6. But I'm a Christian too! Should I worry? ------------------------------------------- No. You have the blessings of life eternal and the unimaginable riches of God's infinite kingdom. 7. Well, why not just ignore his Christian nature? -------------------------------------------------- Anti-christians are unable to do that. 8. But isn't it wonderful that Dr. Chung offers this free medical information out of the goodness of his heart? ---------------------------------------------------------- God is wonderful. 9. How does a cardiologist have so much time to spend on Usenet? ------------------------------------------------------ ---------- God makes time for those whom He blesses. 10. Won't challenging Dr. Chung drive people away? -------------------------------------------------- Do not concern yourself with the free will of others. 11. Doesn't the "fault" for all those posts lay with those who challenge Dr. Chung? ------------------------------------------------------------ -- God uses anti-christians for His purposes. These posts are according to His will. 12. Why do I see so many "ad hominem" attacks? ---------------------------------------------- This is how anti-christian folks are identified so they can be culled from His flock. 13. I'm sick of seeing all this! ------------------------------- Not really a question unless you ask yourself "why?" 14. What is the Two Pound Diet (TPD) approach? ---------------------------------------------- See: http://tinyurl.com/2p7ud 15. Is discussion of the Two Pound Diet "on topic"? --------------------------------------------------- Yes. It cures Metabolic Syndrome (MetS) which is a condition that leads to higher rates of heart attacks and strokes. 16. Who is Mu? -------------- A Christian (http://makeashorterlink.com/?S5A631E57). 17. What is Mu's role? ---------------------- To serve God's will and purpose. 18. Who is Steve? ----------------- An anti-christian (http://makeashorterlink.com/?A20055A37). He authors the untrue versions of this FAQ (http://makeashorterlink.com/?S10252097). 19. What is Steve's role? ------------------------- To serve God's will and purpose. 20. Who is Bob? --------------- A food worshipper (http://makeashorterlink.com/?T48662E57) who appears to have become so obsessed with the 2PD approach that he is driven to libeling and defaming the author (http://tinyurl.com/ibvn) at considerable risk to his own economic wellbeing. Also, he seems to be obsessed with this FAQ (http://makeashorterlink.com/?S38712E38) and can be seen writing to himself about it (http://makeashorterlink.com/?R2C134097). Even his friends appear to be tiring of his seemingly irrational and self- destructive USENET posting behavior (http://makeashorterlink.com/?I43721168). 21. What is Bob's role? ----------------------- To serve God's will and purpose. 22. Who is Stephen? ------------------- A hateful (http://makeashorterlink.com/?Q65762E38) *retired* rectal surgeon (http://makeashorterlink.com/?M15151A28) who believes that "Jesus is no more the Messiah than Elvis Presley" (http://makeashorterlink.com/?J1B623B67). He seems to be so taken with Du. Chung's Christian beliefs that he is now stalks Dr. Chung (http://makeashorterlink.com/?Y25611B67) by his own admitted actions. In his continued stalking of Dr. Chung, he has learned that Dr. Chung has a long history of reporting those who would willfully trespass against others (http://makeashorterlink.com/?V28141097). By his own admission, law enforcement agencies reportedly have warned him about his stalking activities (http://makeashorterlink.com/?F2F132348) so he seemingly feigns departure (http://makeashorterlink.com/?K63A21948). A few words to the wise can be found at http://tinyurl.com/23qqk on this topic. 23. What is Stephen's role? --------------------------- To serve God's will and purpose. 24. Is this spam? ----------------- No, this is a FAQ. 25. Who is the author of this FAQ? ---------------------------------- There are multiple contributors and they choose to remain anonymous although they respect Dr. Chung's choice not to be anonymous. 26. Do Dr. Chung's posts fit the definition of "spam" as some allege? ----------------------------------------------------------- ---------- No. Spam on Usenet are stand-alone advertisements and not unique responses to the posts of others. 27. Are Mu, John, CarolT, and Dr. Chung the same person as some allege? ------------------------------------------------------------ ----------- No. Mu, John, CarolT, and Andrew are 4 distinctly different Christian individuals. Comments and/or corrections to this FAQ will be taken under advisement via [email hidden].

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---------------------------------
| The Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD FAQ |
| Version 4.35, May, 2004 |
---------------------------------
Introduction
------------
New people arriving in sci.med.cardiology (s.m.c.) are often
puzzled and troubled by the vitriol directed at Dr. Andrew
B. Chung, MD/PhD
(Dr. Chung) and want to better understand the reasons for
the hatred that some folks have for him. This FAQ
(Frequently Asked Questions) does provide some truthful
answers (there are versions of this FAQ put out by
detractors that are useful only for comparison
purposes). All answers given herein can be
independently verified either via Google or by using
the third-party resources at tinyurl.com26rfr.
This FAQ has been posted in the past in a manner that
permits authentication. The veracity of both the
posting email address and domain name can be
independently confirmed via Google
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).
The FAQ is arranged in typical FAQ form, i.e. a series of
questions followed by simple truthful answers. For those
who don't wish to read the whole FAQ, the following summary
is provided.
Summary
-------
Ds. Chung is a well-respected licensed cardiologist, who is
board-certified in internal medicine and cardiology
(cardiovascular medicine). In this capacity, he responds
truthfully to medical questions on
s.m.c.(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com and
makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) and continues to
freely help people to this day
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). He does this
out of sincere altruism when he has spare time outside
his private cardiology practice, where he sees patients
as a board-certified cardiologist. If that was all he
were, there would probably be no controversy.
The controversy arises from Dr. Chung being Christian, in
particular:
o He continues to publicly profess that Christ is his Lord
and Savior (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).
o He freely helps people to lose weight in an altruistic
Christian fashion (tinyurl.com2p7ud).
o When attacked on the above issues, he turns the other
cheek in a Christian manner
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).
o When challenged about his faith in Christ, he witnesses
steadfastly without hatred
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).
o When insulted for his faith in Christ, he openly calls it
a blessing (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).
o He remains truthful, as a servant of Christ, despite being
maliciously libeled and defamed (tinyurl.comibvn).
o Other Christians have affirmed Dr. Chung's strong faith in
Christ (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).
The above lists only the highlights of Dr. Chung's Christian
behavior on s.m.c. If anything, it understates it.
Everything can be verified in the Google archives. He
witnesses to all at tinyurl.com2ndof.
People arrive in this group looking for help. Dr. Chung has
graciously provided this over several years
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). Dr. Chung
consistently demonstrates the breadth of his knowledge,
training, and experience
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). This is archived
many times over in Google.
List of Questions Answered
--------------------------
1. Who is Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD?
2. What is the Charter of s.m.c.?
3. Aren't Christian discussions covered by the Charter?
4. So Dr. Chung is Christian... What's the problem
with that?
5. But it's just a little "tag line" in his signature.
6. But I'm a Christian Too!
7. Well, why not just ignore his Christian nature?
8. But isn't it wonderful that Dr. Chung offers this free
medical information out of the goodness of his heart?
9. How does a cardiologist have so much time to spend
on Usenet?
10. Won't challenging Dr. Chung drive people away?
11. Doesn't the "fault" for all those posts lay with those
who challenge Dr. Chung?
12. Why do I see so many "ad hominem" attacks?
13. I'm sick of seeing all this!
14. What is the Two Pound Diet?
15. Is discussion of the Two Pound Diet "on topic"?
16. Who is Mu?
17. What is Mu's role?
18. Who is Steve?
19. What is Steve's role?
20. Who is Bob?
21. What is Bob's role?
22. Who is Stephen?
23. What is Stephen's role?
24. Is this spam?
25. Who is the author of this FAQ?
26. Do Dr. Chung's posts fit the definition of "spam" as
some allege?
27. Are Mu, John, CarolT, and Dr. Chung the same person as
some allege?
28. Who is Dr. Andrew B Chung, MD/PhD?
-------------------------------------
Dt. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD is a licensed doubly board-
certified cardiologist practicing cardiovascular
medicine in Atlanta, Georgia, USA. His signature
contains a link to tinyurl.com255v2, which is
consistent with his posts and qualifications.
2. What is the Charter of s.m.c.?
---------------------------------
The purpose of this newsgroup is to establish electronic
media for communication between health care providers,
scientists and other individuals with interest in the
cardiovascular field. Such communications will provide quick
and efficacious means to exchange information and knowledge,
and offer problems to solutions.
The sci.med.cardiology newsgroup will welcome participants
who are health care providers, trainees, researchers,
students or recipients with interest in the field of
cardiovascular problems."
(tinyurl.com3fv8k)
3. Aren't Christian discussions covered by the charter?
-------------------------------------------------------
They are if these discussions represent "communication
between health care providers, scientists and other
individuals with interest in the cardiovascular field." It
should be noted that Christ remains a healthcare provider
(tinyurl.com2ndof), who has demonstrated an interest
in the cardiovascular field when He "resuscitated" Lazarus.
4. So Dr. Chung is Christian... What's the problem
with that?
------------------------------------------------------------
-
Some people are fiercely anti-christian.
5. But it's just a little "tag line" in his
signature, isn't it?
------------------------------------------------------
----------
Yes it is. But it offends those who are anti-christian.
6. But I'm a Christian too! Should I worry?
-------------------------------------------
No. You have the blessings of life eternal and the
unimaginable riches of God's infinite kingdom.
7. Well, why not just ignore his Christian nature?
--------------------------------------------------
Anti-christians are unable to do that.
8. But isn't it wonderful that Dr. Chung offers this free
medical information out of the goodness of his heart?
----------------------------------------------------------
God is wonderful.
9. How does a cardiologist have so much time to spend
on Usenet?
------------------------------------------------------
----------
God makes time for those whom He blesses.
10. Won't challenging Dr. Chung drive people away?
--------------------------------------------------
Do not concern yourself with the free will of others.
11. Doesn't the "fault" for all those posts lay with those
who challenge Dr. Chung?
------------------------------------------------------------
--
God uses anti-christians for His purposes. These posts are
according to His will.
12. Why do I see so many "ad hominem" attacks?
----------------------------------------------
This is how anti-christian folks are identified so they can
be culled from His flock.
13. I'm sick of seeing all this!
-------------------------------
Not really a question unless you ask yourself "why?"
14. What is the Two Pound Diet (TPD) approach?
----------------------------------------------
See: tinyurl.com2p7ud
15. Is discussion of the Two Pound Diet "on topic"?
---------------------------------------------------
Yes. It cures Metabolic Syndrome (MetS) which is a condition
that leads to higher rates of heart attacks and strokes.
16. Who is Mu?
--------------
A Christian (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).
17. What is Mu's role?
----------------------
To serve God's will and purpose.
18. Who is Steve?
-----------------
An anti-christian (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).
He authors the untrue versions of this FAQ
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).
19. What is Steve's role?
-------------------------
To serve God's will and purpose.
20. Who is Bob?
---------------
A food worshipper (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com)
who appears to have become so obsessed with the 2PD approach
that he is driven to libeling and defaming the author
(tinyurl.comibvn) at considerable risk to his own
economic wellbeing. Also, he seems to be obsessed with this
FAQ (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) and can be seen
writing to himself about it
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). Even his friends
appear to be tiring of his seemingly irrational and self-
destructive USENET posting behavior
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com).
21. What is Bob's role?
-----------------------
To serve God's will and purpose.
22. Who is Stephen?
-------------------
A hateful (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) *retired*
rectal surgeon (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) who
believes that "Jesus is no more the Messiah than Elvis
Presley" (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). He seems
to be so taken with
Du. Chung's Christian beliefs that he is now stalks Dr.
Chung (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) by his
own admitted actions. In his continued stalking of Dr.
Chung, he has learned that Dr. Chung has a long history
of reporting those who would willfully trespass against
others (makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). By his
own admission, law enforcement agencies reportedly have
warned him about his stalking activities
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com) so he seemingly
feigns departure
(makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com). A few words to
the wise can be found at tinyurl.com23qqk on
this topic.
23. What is Stephen's role?
---------------------------
To serve God's will and purpose.
24. Is this spam?
-----------------
No, this is a FAQ.
25. Who is the author of this FAQ?
----------------------------------
There are multiple contributors and they choose to remain
anonymous although they respect Dr. Chung's choice not to be
anonymous.
26. Do Dr. Chung's posts fit the definition of "spam" as
some allege?
-----------------------------------------------------------
----------
No. Spam on Usenet are stand-alone advertisements and not
unique responses to the posts of others.
27. Are Mu, John, CarolT, and Dr. Chung the same person as
some allege?
------------------------------------------------------------
-----------
No. Mu, John, CarolT, and Andrew are 4 distinctly different
Christian individuals.
Comments and/or corrections to this FAQ will be taken under
advisement via [email hidden].

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25 May 2004, 10:35 UTC #2

A. B. Chung FAQ said:

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| The Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD FAQ |
| Version 4.35, May, 2004 |
All the time Dr Chung spends online - and then this odd FAQ
that he posts - just absolutely bizarre!
Quoted message said:
The controversy arises from Dr. Chung being Christian, in
particular:
I really don't think that's so.
We're fully aware of your religious affiliation. I really
don't think that in itself is what turns some people off.
Quoted message said:
5. But it's just a little "tag line" in his signature,
isn't it?
-------------------------------------------------------
---------
Yes it is. But it offends those who are anti-christian.
The "Servant to the humblest person in the universe" doesn't
bother me one bit - kinda cute in it's own religiously
perverse way. And I understand that setting this up as you
vs anti-christians furthers the good vs evil scenario that's
so deeply ingrained in christianity and moves it forward.
Hey, it's your affirmation and it makes you feel
humble...whatever turns you on.
But these responses from Dr. Chung - in this newsgroup - go
further than "just a little tag line":
"God's power is evident with the creation of each new day.
Would suggest those who have eyes open them and see."
"In truth, no amount of physical fitness will defeat death.
Only through Christ, can we defeat death."
"May he accept Christ as his personal Lord and Savior,
someday, so that he might be cured of his afflictions."
"May God watch over you and yours in Christ's name..."
"May you accept Christ as your personal Lord and Savior,
someday, so that you too will be at peace, have eternal
life, and the limitless riches of His everlasting kingdom."
These types of comments are totally unnecessary, not in the
least bit "humble" and - rather - patronizing, disapproving,
demeaning and intolerant to those who share other beliefs
and, frankly, should not even be part of the discussion
here. *That* would indicate true humility, Dr. Chung. I
don't think we need to be preached to here in this newsgroup
for or against *any* particular religious belief. It does
not further the purpose: to disseminate medical information.
You're a good Christian, Dr. Chung. Be happy. Live long
and prosper. Your little tag line says all that needs
to be said.
My 3cents on this "controversy"....
L.

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25 May 2004, 10:35 UTC #3

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A. B. Chung FAQ said:

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| Version 4.35, May, 2004 |
All the time Dr Chung spends online -
In truth, hardly any at all.
Quoted message said:
and then this odd FAQ that he posts - just absolutely
bizarre!
Really can't take the credit for authoring this masterful
composition of truths.
All praises belong to Christ, who remains my personal Lord
and Savior.
Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:
The controversy arises from Dr. Chung being Christian, in
particular:
I really don't think that's so.
And yet the examples that you give below betray what is in
your heart.
Quoted message said:

We're fully aware of your religious affiliation. I really
don't think that in itself is what turns some people off.
However, it seems to be bothering you.
Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:
5. But it's just a little "tag line" in his signature,
isn't it?
---------------------------------------------------------
-------
Yes it is. But it offends those who are anti-christian.
The "Servant to the humblest person in the universe"
doesn't bother me one bit - kinda cute in it's own
religiously perverse way.
"Perverse" is hardly a term of endearment.
Quoted message said:
And I understand that setting this up as you vs anti-
christians furthers the good vs evil scenario that's so
deeply ingrained in christianity and moves it forward.
Hey, it's your affirmation and it makes you feel
humble...whatever turns you on.
But these responses from Dr. Chung - in this newsgroup -
go further than "just a little tag line":
These are part of my being Christian which clearly
bothers you.
Quoted message said:

"God's power is evident with the creation of each new day.
Would suggest those who have eyes open them and see."
"In truth, no amount of physical fitness will defeat
death. Only through Christ, can we defeat death."
"May he accept Christ as his personal Lord and Savior,
someday, so that he might be cured of his afflictions."
"May God watch over you and yours in Christ's name..."
"May you accept Christ as your personal Lord and Savior,
someday, so that you too will be at peace, have eternal
life, and the limitless riches of His everlasting
kingdom."
These types of comments are totally unnecessary,
...not for a Christian.
Quoted message said:
not in the least bit "humble"
They speak nothing about humility.
Quoted message said:
and - rather - patronizing, disapproving, demeaning and
intolerant to those who share other beliefs and, frankly,
should not even be part of the discussion here.
Sorry they still bother you.
Quoted message said:
*That* would indicate true humility, Dr. Chung. I don't
think we need to be preached to here in this newsgroup for
or against *any* particular religious belief.
You are free to go or stay as you please. Sorry that my
being Christian offends you.
Quoted message said:
It does not further the purpose: to disseminate medical
information.
My being here does further that purpose.
Quoted message said:

You're a good Christian, Dr. Chung.
All praises belong to Christ who remains my personal Lord
and Savior.
Quoted message said:
Be happy. Live long and prosper. Your little tag line says
all that needs to be said.
...not for a Christian.
Quoted message said:

My 3cents on this "controversy"....
Thank you for confirming the veracity of the "FAQ." I
believe the authors are likely more appreciative than me.
You remain in my prayers to God in Christ's name.
Servant to the humblest person in the universe,
Andrew
--
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist
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Who is the humblest person in the universe?
makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com
What is all this about?
makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com
Is this spam?
makeashorterlink.commakeashorterlink.com

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