Ullrich TT bike

I think you may be talking about the bikes made by Andreas
Walser www.walser-cycles.ch.

Apparently the frame starts at aobut 4600 Euro and the
whole set up about 8500. (More details in Tour Magazine (6
Juni 2004))

I am not sure Jan is using this stuff any more and he does
not show in the web page references. Yesterday they were
showing one on TV, I think it belonged to Georg Totschnig
(he lost 41 secs). I think his signature customer now is
Michael Rich.

"Shayana Kadidal" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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There's a terrific article by Joe Lindsey on the
bicycling.com site about the time trial bikes used today.
The link doesn't seem to be working; I'll post it when I
find it.

Among other things, it notes that Ullrich's TT bike of
last year (and today) is made by a small Swiss company,
has a 120mm rear spacing (like my fixed gear!) and a 50mm
bottom bracket, apparently the inspiration for the new
prototype TT frame from Trek shown on the Lance
Chronicles, which Lance seems to have rejected using.

A blurry freeze frame from the prologue seems to show an
eight speed cluster in the back for Ullrich today. I'm
surprised even that many will fit in a 120mm spread.

Also interesting: apparently the wrists-down hand posture
Ullrich used last year, with very straight aero extensions
(lacking any upturn at the end), has proven to be far
superior in the wind tunnel in various competitors' tests,
and pretty much everyone is using it: Tyler and Lance
included.

I'm surprised the aerodynamics haven't been studied to
death by triathletes. Nice to know you can still squeeze
blood from the stone.--Shayana Kadidal

"Shayana Kadidal" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

There's a terrific article by Joe Lindsey on the
bicycling.com site about the time trial bikes used today.
The link doesn't seem to be working; I'll post it when I
find it.

Among other things, it notes that Ullrich's TT bike of
last year (and today) is made by a small Swiss company,
has a 120mm rear spacing (like my fixed gear!) and a 50mm
bottom bracket, apparently the inspiration for the new
prototype TT frame from Trek

Narrow b.b.s have been used on TT bikes for years - just ask
Graham Obree.

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Also interesting: apparently the wrists-down hand posture
Ullrich used last year, with very straight aero extensions
(lacking any upturn at the end), has proven to be far
superior in the wind tunnel in various competitors' tests

This would be surprising, since to my knowledge only one
rider tested in the TAMU wind tunnnel has ever demonstrated
lower drag with their forearms positioned this way. Are you
sure that Buy-cycling just isn't making this up?

Andy Coggan

ulrichs bike is a walser...

alex said:

I think you may be talking about the bikes made by Andreas
Walser www.walser-cycles.ch.

Apparently the frame starts at aobut 4600 Euro and the
whole set up about 8500. (More details in Tour Magazine (6
Juni 2004))

I am not sure Jan is using this stuff any more and he does
not show in the web page references. Yesterday they were
showing one on TV, I think it belonged to Georg Totschnig
(he lost 41 secs). I think his signature customer now is
Michael Rich.

"Shayana Kadidal" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

There's a terrific article by Joe Lindsey on the
bicycling.com site about the time trial bikes used today.
The link doesn't seem to be working; I'll post it when I
find it.

Among other things, it notes that Ullrich's TT bike of
last year (and today) is made by a small Swiss company,
has a 120mm rear spacing (like my fixed gear!) and a 50mm
bottom bracket, apparently the inspiration for the new
prototype TT frame from Trek shown on the Lance
Chronicles, which Lance seems to have rejected using.

A blurry freeze frame from the prologue seems to show an
eight speed cluster in the back for Ullrich today. I'm
surprised even that many will fit in a 120mm spread.

Also interesting: apparently the wrists-down hand posture
Ullrich used last year, with very straight aero extensions
(lacking any upturn at the end), has proven to be far
superior in the wind tunnel in various competitors' tests,
and pretty much everyone is using it: Tyler and Lance
included.

I'm surprised the aerodynamics haven't been studied to
death by triathletes. Nice to know you can still squeeze
blood from the stone.--Shayana Kadidal

here's the link, finally:
bicycling.com0,3489,s1 8928,00.htmlOpen ↗

I mischaracterized it from memory: it says the wrists-down
position is "consistently faster" in the wind tunnel; I
suppose that could mean "it was faster every time Ullrich
tried it." It does look like Tyler and Lance are using it,
from the photos on cyclingnews.--Shayana Kadidal

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Also interesting: apparently the wrists-down hand
posture Ullrich used last year, with very straight aero
extensions (lacking any upturn at the end), has proven
to be far superior in the wind tunnel in various
competitors' tests

This would be surprising, since to my knowledge only one
rider tested in the TAMU wind tunnnel has ever
demonstrated lower drag with their forearms positioned
this way. Are you sure that Buy-cycling just isn't making
this up?

Andy Coggan