Ullrich TT bike

I think you may be talking about the bikes made by Andreas Walser
www.walser-cycles.ch.

Apparently the frame starts at aobut 4600 Euro and the whole set up about
8500. (More details in Tour Magazine (6 Juni 2004))

I am not sure Jan is using this stuff any more and he does not show in the
web page references. Yesterday they were showing one on TV, I think it
belonged to Georg Totschnig (he lost 41 secs). I think his signature
customer now is Michael Rich.

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There's a terrific article by Joe Lindsey on the bicycling.com site
about the time trial bikes used today. The link doesn't seem to be
working; I'll post it when I find it.

Among other things, it notes that Ullrich's TT bike of last year (and
today) is made by a small Swiss company, has a 120mm rear spacing
(like my fixed gear!) and a 50mm bottom bracket, apparently the
inspiration for the new prototype TT frame from Trek shown on the
Lance Chronicles, which Lance seems to have rejected using.

A blurry freeze frame from the prologue seems to show an eight speed
cluster in the back for Ullrich today. I'm surprised even that many
will fit in a 120mm spread.

Also interesting: apparently the wrists-down hand posture Ullrich used
last year, with very straight aero extensions (lacking any upturn at
the end), has proven to be far superior in the wind tunnel in various
competitors' tests, and pretty much everyone is using it: Tyler and
Lance included.

I'm surprised the aerodynamics haven't been studied to death by
triathletes. Nice to know you can still squeeze blood from the
stone.--Shayana Kadidal

"Shayana Kadidal" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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There's a terrific article by Joe Lindsey on the bicycling.com site
about the time trial bikes used today. The link doesn't seem to be
working; I'll post it when I find it.

Among other things, it notes that Ullrich's TT bike of last year (and
today) is made by a small Swiss company, has a 120mm rear spacing
(like my fixed gear!) and a 50mm bottom bracket, apparently the
inspiration for the new prototype TT frame from Trek

Narrow b.b.s have been used on TT bikes for years - just ask Graham Obree.

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Also interesting: apparently the wrists-down hand posture Ullrich used
last year, with very straight aero extensions (lacking any upturn at
the end), has proven to be far superior in the wind tunnel in various
competitors' tests

This would be surprising, since to my knowledge only one rider tested in the
TAMU wind tunnnel has ever demonstrated lower drag with their forearms
positioned this way. Are you sure that Buy-cycling just isn't making this
up?

Andy Coggan

ulrichs bike is a walser...

alex said:

I think you may be talking about the bikes made by Andreas Walser
www.walser-cycles.ch.

Apparently the frame starts at aobut 4600 Euro and the whole set up about
8500. (More details in Tour Magazine (6 Juni 2004))

I am not sure Jan is using this stuff any more and he does not show in the
web page references. Yesterday they were showing one on TV, I think it
belonged to Georg Totschnig (he lost 41 secs). I think his signature
customer now is Michael Rich.

"Shayana Kadidal" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

There's a terrific article by Joe Lindsey on the bicycling.com site
about the time trial bikes used today. The link doesn't seem to be
working; I'll post it when I find it.

Among other things, it notes that Ullrich's TT bike of last year (and
today) is made by a small Swiss company, has a 120mm rear spacing
(like my fixed gear!) and a 50mm bottom bracket, apparently the
inspiration for the new prototype TT frame from Trek shown on the
Lance Chronicles, which Lance seems to have rejected using.

A blurry freeze frame from the prologue seems to show an eight speed
cluster in the back for Ullrich today. I'm surprised even that many
will fit in a 120mm spread.

Also interesting: apparently the wrists-down hand posture Ullrich used
last year, with very straight aero extensions (lacking any upturn at
the end), has proven to be far superior in the wind tunnel in various
competitors' tests, and pretty much everyone is using it: Tyler and
Lance included.

I'm surprised the aerodynamics haven't been studied to death by
triathletes. Nice to know you can still squeeze blood from the
stone.--Shayana Kadidal

here's the link, finally:
http://www.bicycling.com/tourdefrance/experts/columns/0,3489,s1-8928,00.html

I mischaracterized it from memory: it says the wrists-down position is
"consistently faster" in the wind tunnel; I suppose that could mean
"it was faster every time Ullrich tried it." It does look like Tyler
and Lance are using it, from the photos on cyclingnews.--Shayana
Kadidal

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Quoted message said:

Also interesting: apparently the wrists-down hand posture Ullrich used
last year, with very straight aero extensions (lacking any upturn at
the end), has proven to be far superior in the wind tunnel in various
competitors' tests

This would be surprising, since to my knowledge only one rider tested in the
TAMU wind tunnnel has ever demonstrated lower drag with their forearms
positioned this way. Are you sure that Buy-cycling just isn't making this
up?

Andy Coggan