Road Cycling · Public discussion

Two weeks, not two years.

Started by Email address hidden · · Last activity · 4 posts · 285 views

This thread is locked and is currently read-only.

Thread details

What we know about this thread

Original section
Road Cycling
Published
13 December 2007
Last activity
13 December 2007
Original author
Email address hidden
Posts
4
Discussion status
Public discussion
Total views
285
Views / 30 days
0

The navigation and discussion metadata provide context. Posts remain in their original chronological order.

Showing posts 1–4 of 4
Posts remain in their original chronological order.

Text size
  1. NPR scooped the commish a long time ago, with a show that revealed
    baseball from a minor leaguer's point of view: Dope, make a real
    salary, and have a life, or don't dope, and be a dope.

    There's your "morality" for you.

    Or, you could go stand at a machine in a factory eight hours a day for
    the next 35 years. Half hour for lunch incl. the time it takes to get
    to the cafeteria and stand in line, and 15 minutes for personal, once
    in the morning and once in the afternoon (Union-protected <g>😉 (or you
    wouldn't get that).

    What school were your kids going to go to, again? Incl. elementary,
    secondary, *and* university? Life as a respected professional, not
    checking at WalMart or twisting wrenches somewhere?

    Or maybe some of the holypants mofos around here have never had a real
    job?

    Too bad baseball didn't come first, but then that's another aspect of
    being Union:

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071213/sp_nm/baseball_steroids_dc_1;_ylt=Aqz6ngkTJi9yhzkW3wciK4IE1vAI

    Or the Tiny:

    http://tinyurl.com/2wnluy

    Guess? Seventy-five percent use at least one performance-enhancing
    substance regularly? All (or close) the marginals, same for the
    "stars"? I think that's "low generous".

    Yes, management, after screwing up PR with The Strike, turned a blind
    eye. Omerta. Money. Fewer scapegoats; just don't lie to the Grand Jury
    or "impede investigation" (Hi Michael, got any dog posters in your
    cell?) and you're still on a career track.

    Onward, Christian Soldiers! --D-y

  2. Quoted post said:

    Or, you could go stand at a machine in a factory eight hours a day for
    the next 35 years. Half hour for lunch incl. the time it takes to get
    to the cafeteria and stand in line, and 15 minutes for personal, once
    in the morning and once in the afternoon (Union-protected <g>😉 (or you
    wouldn't get that).

    What school were your kids going to go to, again? Incl. elementary,
    secondary, *and* university? Life as a respected professional, not
    checking at WalMart or twisting wrenches somewhere?

    statements like the above are disingenuous, not every aspiring athlete
    is a no hoper if they don't make it to the big leagues.

    louis garneau could've turned pro after the olympics, but he chose to
    focus on his business. hamilton earned an economics degree in '94, if
    you track down his classmates i bet a lot of them are making over
    $100,000 a year and that wall streeter that used to race for ONCE is
    probably making way more now than he did as a racer. the difference is
    he doesn't get the social benefits of being a pro athlete.

    when 26 yr old sinkewitz says "i can't do anything else", educated
    schmoebags in their 30s and 40s who make a tenth of what he made are
    supposed to feel sorry for him ?

  3. On Dec 13, 9:32 am, "[email hidden]" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    statements like the above are disingenuous, not every aspiring athlete
    is a no hoper if they don't make it to the big leagues.

    I didn't say they all were. Don't try to say they all aren't, OK?

    Or, to be maybe a little more accurate, that "doping" doesn't ever
    separate those who make it to the Bigs and those who don't, and make a
    hundred times less money.

    Quoted message said:

    louis garneau could've turned pro after the olympics, but he chose to
    focus on his business. hamilton earned an economics degree in '94, if
    you track down his classmates i bet a lot of them are making over
    $100,000 a year and that wall streeter that used to race for ONCE is
    probably making way more now than he did as a racer. the difference is
    he doesn't get the social benefits of being a pro athlete.

    That all comes down to "go do something else", in a climate where
    those who dope, and until pretty recently have done so with impunity
    (which continues in bigtime USA sports), while those who choose the
    other path are rewarded.

    Quoted message said:


    when 26 yr old sinkewitz says "i can't do anything else", educated
    schmoebags in their 30s and 40s who make a tenth of what he made are
    supposed to feel sorry for him ?

    I never said anything about feeling sorry for anyone, so you can drop
    that line, OK?

    You know my attack is aimed at the powers-that-be, and you know why.
    Try targeting them for a change, since they are just as much at fault
    (to quote myself) for the current situation as the dopingest doper who
    ever doped.

    "Cleaning up sport" for corporate sponsorship. What a joke. Not a
    funny joke, but a joke. --D-y

  4. On Dec 13, 10:32 am, "[email hidden]" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    the 2 yr penalties are a result of the UCI agreeing to comply with
    WADA. it was a stupid management decision because pro cycling never
    needed the olympics to thrive.

    I said it comes from the top and that "management" was just as much to
    blame for the mess (sponsors leaving) as anyone else.
    Then you wrote some stuff introduced by calling *me* a dumbass. "Nice
    try".

    Quoted message said:

    the cycling bodies historically haven't punished riders. all the
    puerto riders were cleared by their feds, but CONI went after basso
    and WADA will appeal vino's 1-yr suspension (even though he's
    retired).

    Punish, punish, punish ("show power and intimidate"😉 and clean house
    for corporate sponsorship. Where have I heard that before???

    Quoted message said:

    also the UCI wasn't wiretapping moose's phone or snapping pics of
    sevilla in madrid.

    I said anything about that stuff where, again? --D-y

Active in the last 60 minutes

Active in this thread

0 users · 0 guests ·0 bots ·0 total

No signed-in users are active right now.

No known search crawlers active right now.