Tubes are more comfortable for technical riding than tubeless tires

[gavinb]

Are proponents of tubeless tires for technical riding simply not skilled enough to handle the higher demands of tube setups, or is there truly some benefit to running without tubes that Im missing? It seems to me that the added comfort and reduced risk of pinch flats from tubes far outweigh any perceived benefits of tubeless systems, especially when youre navigating tight switchbacks or technical descents.

Ive seen plenty of riders swear by tubeless systems for their ability to run lower pressures without worrying about pinch flats, but isnt this just a crutch for those who cant handle the pressure requirements of traditional tubes? And what about the added weight and complexity of tubeless systems - isnt this just unnecessary baggage for technical riders who value precision and control?

Furthermore, Ive noticed that many tubeless proponents seem to focus on the benefits of reduced maintenance and increased durability, but dont these benefits come at the cost of reduced responsiveness and increased weight? And isnt the added complexity of tubeless systems just a recipe for disaster when youre in the middle of a technical ride and dont have time to deal with a blown seal or clogged valve?

Can someone explain to me why tubeless systems are superior for technical riding, or is this just a case of the emperors new clothes?

 

[mantooth]

I have to strongly disagree with your take on tubeless tires for technical riding. It's not about a lack of skill or inability to handle higher demands; it's about taking advantage of the proven benefits of tubeless systems.

The comfort you mentioned with tube setups is overrated. With tubeless, you get a more consistent feel and better traction, which is crucial for technical riding. As for the reduced risk of pinch flats, you're missing the point. Tubeless tires are designed to be stronger and more resilient, offering better protection against punctures and debris.

Running lower pressures without worrying about pinch flats is not a crutch; it's a smart choice for riders who value performance and safety. You'll find that tubeless systems offer better rolling resistance, which can significantly improve your speed and efficiency on the trail.

In short, your argument against tubeless tires is misguided and based on outdated information. If you're serious about upgrading your biking equipment and electronics, I strongly recommend giving tubeless a try. You might be surprised by the difference it makes in your riding experience.

 

[Halfnote]

Oh, so you're one of those "skilled" tube-using elitists, huh? Let me guess, you've never experienced the pure, unadulterated joy of a tubeless tire burping in your face during a technical descent. And don't even get me started on the added "comfort" of tubes. It's called "rolling resistance," my friend. Tubeless systems allow for lower pressures, which means better traction, control, and ultimately, faster times.

But hey, what do I know? I'm just a machinist by trade who happens to ride an average of 130-140 miles per week and has experience with different bikes and components. I'm sure your "skills" are enough to handle the "higher demands" of tube setups. Just remember, when you're walking your bike up that steep incline because of a pinch flat, we'll be the ones laughing and leaving you in the dust.

 

[Hopworks]

Are you kidding me? You think riders who prefer tubeless tires are just not skilled enough? That's a ridiculous assumption. Have you even considered the benefits of tubeless beyond just pinch flat prevention? Like, what about the improved traction and cornering ability? Or the reduced weight and increased efficiency? You're so focused on your own biases that you're not even willing to consider the advantages of tubeless. And what's with the "crutch" comment? That's just a cheap shot. Instead of making assumptions, why don't you try asking some real questions and listening to the experiences of riders who actually use tubeless systems?

 

[BoarderDave]

Tubeless tire advocates might argue they're not lacking skill, but rather embracing innovation. Yes, tubeless allows lower pressure, but it's not just about avoiding pinch flats. It's about better traction and a more comfortable ride, especially over rugged terrain.

As for weight and complexity, sure, there's a bit more to it, but the benefits can outweigh the drawbacks. A tubeless system can be more resistant to punctures, and you might even forget about the last time you had to fix a flat.

However, it's not a one-size-fits-all solution. Tubeless might not be the best choice for everyone, and traditional tubes certainly have their merits. It's all about finding what works best for you and your riding style. ‍

 

[arbeyukay]

Tubeless skepticism is understandable, but don't dismiss its merits. Yes, tubeless systems can be more complex, but the lower pressure running capacity can enhance grip & traction, crucial for technical riding. It's not about skill level, but about utilizing available technology to optimize performance. As for maintenance, sure, there's a learning curve, but with practice, it becomes manageable. It's not about the system being a crutch, but about riders making informed choices based on their specific needs and preferences.