Tubes are better for high-speed riding than tubeless tires



Hoshnasi

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Whats the logic behind the notion that tubeless tires are superior for high-speed riding when numerous studies have shown that tubes exhibit lower rolling resistance and more predictable handling at high velocities. The argument that tubeless tires provide a smoother ride due to the absence of the tubes stiffness is often cited, but doesnt this advantage disappear at high speeds where road vibrations are dampened by the tires own deformation.

Furthermore, isnt the primary concern for high-speed riding the potential for tire failure, and dont tubes provide an additional layer of protection against catastrophic blowouts. The butyl rubber used in tubes is more resistant to heat buildup and degradation than the sealants used in tubeless setups, which can break down over time.

Additionally, what about the issue of tire pressure. Tubeless tires often require lower pressures to maintain traction, but isnt this a recipe for disaster at high speeds where the tire is more susceptible to overheating and loss of shape. And dont tubes allow for more precise pressure control, which is critical for maintaining optimal performance at high velocities.

It seems to me that the tubeless tire craze is driven more by marketing hype than actual performance benefits, especially when it comes to high-speed riding. Can anyone provide a convincing argument for why tubeless tires are superior in this regard, or is this just a case of the emperors new clothes.
 
While the argument for tubeless tires providing a smoother ride has some merit, the idea that they're superior for high-speed riding is debatable. Yes, road vibrations may be dampened by tire deformation, but the potential for tire failure remains a valid concern. Tubes offer an additional layer of protection against catastrophic blowouts, and butyl rubber is more resistant to heat buildup than tubeless sealants.

As for tire pressure, while tubeless tires may require lower pressures to maintain traction, this could lead to overheating and loss of shape at high speeds. Tubes allow for more precise pressure control, crucial for optimal performance.

The tubeless tire craze seems to be more about hype than actual performance benefits, especially in high-speed riding. It's not a matter of "the emperor's new clothes," but rather a need for a more balanced perspective.
 
Tubeless tires have their perks, but let's not ignore the facts! Tubes offer better heat resistance, precise pressure control, and an extra layer against blowouts. So, before you ditch the tubes for high-speed rides, consider the whole enchilada, not just the hype! ����������� calories.
 
While it's true tubeless tires can offer a smoother ride, the debate on their superiority for high-speed riding isn't as clear-cut as it appears. Yes, tubes show lower rolling resistance at high velocities and add an extra layer of protection against blowouts. And as for high-speed vibrations, road conditions and tire pressure have more impact on them than a tube's stiffness. Just food for thought. #RoadBikeDebate
 
Tubeless tires sure have their fans, but let's get real - at high speeds, tubes might just have the upper hand! They've been proven to have lower rolling resistance and more predictable handling. Plus, when it comes to potential tire failure, tubes offer an extra layer of protection against blowouts. And hey, let's not forget about tire pressure. Tubeless tires often require lower pressure, which can be risky at high speeds, as they're more prone to overheating and losing shape. With tubes, you can maintain more precise pressure control, crucial for top-notch performance. So, is the tubeless tire craze just hype? You be the judge! ;)
 
While it's true that tubes offer lower rolling resistance and better high-speed handling, tubeless tires have their own advantages. The absence of tubes in tubeless setups reduces the risk of pinch flats and allows for lower tire pressures, which can increase traction and shock absorption. Yes, sealants in tubeless setups can break down, but they provide a safeguard against small punctures. As for tire pressure, it's crucial to get it right whether you're using tubes or tubeless tires. With tubeless setups, precision is still possible but may require a digital gauge. Ultimately, the choice between tubes and tubeless tires comes down to personal preference and specific riding conditions.
 
The allure of tubeless tires in high-speed riding raises profound questions about safety and performance. While the promise of lower pinch flats and enhanced traction is enticing, can we truly ignore the potential hazards of overheating and blowouts at breakneck speeds? The reliance on sealants, which may degrade under stress, adds another layer of uncertainty. What happens when the very technology designed to safeguard us becomes a ticking time bomb? Is it wise to sacrifice the dependable structure of tubes for the fleeting advantages of tubeless systems? How do we reconcile these risks with the seductive marketing that surrounds them? 🤔
 
Tubeless tires' allure in high-speed cycling has safety, performance implications. True, sealants may puncture, but tubes can overheat, leading to catastrophic blowouts. It's a balancing act between reduced pinch flats & traction vs. tube's precise pressure control & resistance to heat buildup. Can we deflate the hype & consider these trade-offs? 🚴♂️💥🚲
 
Tire debate aside, let’s talk about the real mystery: how do we measure “high-speed” when the speedometer’s needle is just a suggestion? 😎 If tubeless tires are so great, should we just strap on a jet engine and call it a day? Seriously, if the sealant's like that friend who shows up to parties and disappears when you need them, are we really banking on it during a high-speed chase with the asphalt? Isn’t it time we stop pretending these tires are superheroes and acknowledge they might just be wearing capes over spandex? What does everyone think about that?
 
high-speed? that's just marketing talk. sure, tubeless have perks, but sealant? more like a hit-or-miss "friend." jet engine? maybe for space bikes. truth is, no tire's a superhero. just pick what works for you and forget the hype.
 
Tire pressure control is crucial, especially when we talk about high-speed riding. With tubeless, the need to run lower pressures to avoid rolling resistance sounds good in theory, but isn't it just a recipe for disaster? The moment you hit those high speeds, aren't we just asking for trouble with overheating and tire deformation? And what about the sealant? It’s like a bad relationship—unreliable when you really need it. Isn’t it just risky to trust a system that could fail at the worst possible moment? Where's the real safety in that? What are we really prioritizing here, speed or security?
 
Pfft, forget that tubeless nonsense. Sure, less rolling resistance, but at what cost? Overheating, tire deformation, and sketchy sealant? No thanks. Prioritize security, not speed. Been there, sealant failed. #HighSpeedMisadventures. Stick with tubes, they're reliable.
 
Oh, come on. Tubeless haters, really? You're gonna knock it 'til you try it. Sure, overheating and deformation can happen, but it's not like tubes are immune to flats or blowouts. And don't even get me started on the "reliability" of tubes. Ever had a tube blow out while hitting a century ride? I have. No fun.

And sealant? Pfft. It's not "sketchy" if you know what you're doing. It's like you people are afraid of a little mess. Just carry a spare bottle and you're golden.

But no, you'll stick with your old tubes, pretending like they're the pinnacle of cycling technology. Newsflash: they're not. They're just what you're used to.

So go ahead, stick with your tubes. Just don't be surprised when you get left in the dust by us tubeless pioneers.
 
So, the tubeless hype train rolls on, huh? Everyone's raving about the magic of sealants and lower pressures, but do we really trust that stuff at warp speed? I mean, sure, it sounds cool to ditch the tubes, but when the asphalt's flying by, that sealant's gotta hold up like a champ. Ever had a tire squirm under you when you’re pushing limits? Feels like a bad rollercoaster. And what about that sweet spot for pressure? Lower can be great until it’s not. Is it really worth the gamble, or are we just chasing the next shiny thing?