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  1. How goes it folks. So i've just registered with a local triathlon club
    due to a desire for a little competition. But up until present have been
    doing 200-250 km per week on the Trek, (which has been 6 days a week
    including 4 easy spinning days of around 25 km) and shying away from the
    other disciplines that tri insists upon. For the past week i've been
    throwing in some swimming (800m over 3 sessions) and complaining my way
    through some light running (3 sessions of 3 km each).

    My issue is what would be my most efficient option as to the
    re-structuring of my cycling so as to accommodate both the swimming
    and running. I intend on 3 days of each per week, but was wondering
    whether to concentrate on one discipline per week and revolving them?
    or something similar??

    I don't intend on going to Foster, and i'm not modifying my bike, (I
    usually nail all of the local tri-riders on group rides) I'd just like
    to be sure that i'm training as efficiently as I can.

    "To infinity and beyond!" ~j~

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    How goes it folks. So i've just registered with a local triathlon club
    due to a desire for a little competition. But up until present have


    been

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    doing 200-250 km per week on the Trek, (which has been 6 days a week
    including 4 easy spinning days of around 25 km) and shying away from


    the

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    other disciplines that tri insists upon. For the past week i've been
    throwing in some swimming (800m over 3 sessions) and complaining my


    way

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    through some light running (3 sessions of 3 km each).

    My issue is what would be my most efficient option as to the
    re-structuring of my cycling so as to accommodate both the swimming
    and running.

    You didn't just mention _reducing_ your time on the bike on
    aus.bicycles, did you? Nooooo!!! ;-)

    My tri training (and bear in mind I only ever did sprints
    and not too seriously either) consisted of waking earlier,
    riding to work, swimming after the ride then ride home
    after work and then run right after the bike (a "brick"😉.
    Sometimes I'd run after work and then ride home.

    What distances are you thinking of competing at? I found
    that in sprint distance, swimming barely matters and it's
    the bike and probably moreso the run that win/lose you
    the race. I'd go into the water in one of the last waves,
    come out of the water near last and then pass 80% of
    the field in front of me on the bike and run. Of course,
    if the swim leg is proportionally longer you might be in
    trouble. Personally, I don't like swimming and running
    is only slightly more fun.

    I'd start increasing the distances you are swimming and
    running and perhaps do some harder sessions on the
    bike. If you are doing Olympic distance and less, it's all
    about speed and quick transitions.

    There's heaps of web material out there with training
    programs and stuff.
    http://tinyurl.com/wds0
    www.slowtwitch.com
    www.multisports.com
    www.trivic.org.au

    Hope this gives you a starting point anyway..
    hippy

  3. gravelmuncher said:

    How goes it folks. So i've just registered with a local triathlon club
    due to a desire for a little competition. But up until present have been
    doing 200-250 km per week on the Trek, (which has been 6 days a week
    including 4 easy spinning days of around 25 km) and shying away from the
    other disciplines that tri insists upon. For the past week i've been
    throwing in some swimming (800m over 3 sessions) and complaining my way
    through some light running (3 sessions of 3 km each).
    My issue is what would be my most efficient option as to the
    re-structuring of my cycling so as to accommodate both the swimming
    and running. I intend on 3 days of each per week, but was wondering
    whether to concentrate on one discipline per week and revolving them?
    or something similar??
    I don't intend on going to Foster, and i'm not modifying my bike, (I
    usually nail all of the local tri-riders on group rides) I'd just like
    to be sure that i'm training as efficiently as I can.
    "To infinity and beyond!" ~j~

    Welcome to the sport of Triathlons!

    I started with a tri club last year only to keep my cycling up. I was
    doing perhaps 150km a week doing 3 - 4 rides. When I began with the club
    I had not done laps in a pool for about 10 years and was also recovering
    from a achilles tendon injury to both legs. Hence I only rode at first.
    Once my leg improved I began running and finally plucked up enough
    courage to get into a pool.

    One year later, after completing a few triathlons, I have made sure I
    spend equal amounts of time doing all three disciplines.

    My bike leg is and always will be the strongest leg but I do not
    neccessarily spend more time on it each week.

    It is not necessarily the amount of training you do but the type of
    training you do that will ultimately help you. It also depends on what
    distance tri's you will be doing. If you are doing sprint tri's you can
    afford to do shorter sessions but they should be at 85 - 90% of max H/R
    at this stage of the season.

    My weekly program at this stage of the season goes something like this:

    Sunday - Swim 2 - 3 km Monday - Run 8 - 12 km (depending on what course
    hills or flat) Tuesday - Bike (wind trainer 1 1/2hours or road ride
    2hrs) Wednesday - Run 8 - 12 km Thursday - Bike Friday - Swim Saturday -
    Club 'Brick Session' (3 hours of riding, running and transitions)

    Now, I will be the first to confess I do not always do a session each
    day, sometimes I combine two in the one day and have a day of rest (if I
    am particuarly sore after a session).

    Your fellow club members will be able to help you with a program for
    specific times of the year:

    Winter - distance training (long rides, runs and swims at a really low
    heart rate)

    Start of season - strength training (hill repeats bike & run, high
    cadence, swimming with a pool buoy)

    Regular season - speed work (sprints at a high heart rate with decent
    periods of cooling down between ie. 15 minute ride at 85% of max. H/R
    with 5 minutes cool down (really low H/R between sets.

    You will find that you will get stronger, fitter and faster if you
    follow this sort of format. If I were you I would concentrate on the
    other disciplines as your bike work seems to be better than average.
    Unless you are a gun swimmer, it is the area you will more than likely
    lose a lot of places. It is hard to make them up during the bike ride
    when you have to pace yourself for the run.

    I have been learning with each tri I have done and have got plenty
    of friends in the club who have given me good pointers. A couple
    of tips are:

    1. Make sure you keep hydrated - even though you may be only doing
    sprint tri's (500/20/5) you need to be taking fluid. But don't take a
    big gulp 2 km's from the end of the bike leg - you will only get a
    stich at the start of the run.
    2. Pace yourself - I have seen so many people 'die' on the run because
    they went too hard in the bike. Working out a good pace will come
    with practise. Even though you may be a gun rider, you still need
    functioning quads and calves to run (especially up and down hills)
    3. Practise transitions wherever you can - it can save you a minute in a
    race and that can be up to 10 positions. Get yourself some elastic
    laces so your shoes will slip on in a jiffy. There are so many more
    but I don't want to go on too much.

    If you would like some more info feel free to email me. I would be happy
    to help out.

    Good luck with the new sport!

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  4. Thanks guys...it all helps. Hippy, thanks for the links.

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