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TREK 2300 : 2004 model

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  1. I am thinking about a TREK 2004 model 2300 frameset. I have
    a couple of questions about these frames, and wondered if
    someone knows the answer.

    1. These frame have an internal headset. Is this just
    marginally better than an integrated headset, with all
    the associated maintenance nightmares, and the
    possibility of a quickly ruined frame because these
    headsets are not robust?

    2. The frame lacks braze-ons for a rear rack, although it
    has eyelets on the dropouts. What are the drawbacks of a
    rack that attaches to the seatpost, or the mono-stay (if
    such mounts exist) ??

    3. The frame lacks a pump peg. Is this really a
    disadvantage? My old trek had a pump peg so you could
    carry a frame-fit pump below the top tube.

    4. Does anybody know how much these frames weigh ?? I read
    that the 2003 full ZR9000 frame was 2.72 lbs, however, I
    have also heard that frames with carbon seatstays are
    usualy _heavier_ than pure aluminum frames. So did trek
    downgrade the frame this year
    (e.g. is it heavier than it was back in 2003) ??

    Thanx in advance,

    - Don Gillies San Diego, CA

  2. Donald Gillies said:

    I am thinking about a TREK 2004 model 2300 frameset. I
    have a couple of questions about these frames, and
    wondered if someone knows the answer.

    1. These frame have an internal headset. Is this just
    marginally better than an integrated headset, with all
    the associated maintenance nightmares, and the
    possibility of a quickly ruined frame because these
    headsets are not robust?

    It's quite a lot better really. See chrisking.co-chrisking.co-
    m/pdfs/Int%20Headsets%20Explained.pdf for a slightly
    opinionated explanation!

    Quoted message said:

    2. The frame lacks braze-ons for a rear rack, although it
    has eyelets on the dropouts. What are the drawbacks of
    a rack that attaches to the seatpost, or the mono-stay
    (if such mounts exist) ??

    Lower carrying capacity and stability, but it's not as bad
    as it seems because most of the weight is carried by the
    struts leading to the dropouts. Some people get away with
    P-clips for the top rack mountings.

    Quoted message said:

    3. The frame lacks a pump peg. Is this really a
    disadvantage? My old trek had a pump peg so you could
    carry a frame-fit pump below the top tube.

    Not if the head angle is steeper than the seat angle,
    because in that case the pump can't slip anyway. Looking at
    the specs for the 2300, this will depend on what size frame
    you ride. The smaller frames have a rather steep seat angle
    and a slack head angle, presumably to avoid toe overlap with
    the front wheel, but the bigger frames are OK.

  3. Zog The Undeniable said:

    Donald Gillies wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    3. The frame lacks a pump peg. Is this really a
    disadvantage? My old trek had a pump peg so you
    could carry a frame-fit pump below the top tube.

    Quoted message said:

    Not if the head angle is steeper than the seat angle,
    because in that case the pump can't slip anyway.

    Sure it can. It only has to pivot at the ST-TT junction.
    Options include a Zefal strap-on pump peg, or putting the
    pump along the left seatstay. OTOH, if pump pegs, rack
    mounts etc are very important to the OP, perhaps this frame
    is not the ideal choice. Of course it can be bodged, but at
    heart it's still a modern lightweight aluminum racing frame
    with a goofy carbon butt-end.

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