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  1. Hi all,

    I am 38 and I started training regularly this year using J.
    Friel's book, and have been participating in a few x-country
    mountain bike races.

    I have a question about HR zones & training strategies: I
    had the HR monitor on during my last race, and it shows an
    average of 188 on a
    1:20 off-road course with almost no climbing. The
    highest value I have ever read is 193; and I spent
    1:10h above 185.

    The first question is, how can that HR be so high if - I
    quote - LT is roughly the HR you can maintain for one hour
    but not more? All the 'perceived exertion" indicators put my
    LT around 174 (erratic breathing shortly after going past
    that HR, and at the lower end of the scale getting slightly
    out of breath arount 148).

    The second question is, how should I adjust my training?
    There are 2 ways to look at this:
    2. My aerobic capacity really sucks since I am anaerobic 99%
    of the race, so that's what I should work on with long
    slow training, or
    3. Since I am in my anaerobic zone 99% of the time I should
    focus on training my anaerobic abilities through
    intervals to improve performance.

    Any suggestions?

    Thanks - Franck

  2. On 6 Apr 2004 15:13:15 -0700, [email hidden] (Franck Mangin)

    Quoted message said:

    Hi all,

    I am 38 and I started training regularly this year using J.
    Friel's book, and have been participating in a few x-
    country mountain bike races.

    I have a question about HR zones & training strategies: I
    had the HR monitor on during my last race, and it shows an
    average of 188 on a
    1:20 off-road course with almost no climbing. The
    highest value I have ever read is 193; and I spent
    1:10h above 185.

    The first question is, how can that HR be so high if - I
    quote - LT is roughly the HR you can maintain for one hour
    but not more? All the 'perceived exertion" indicators put
    my LT around 174 (erratic breathing shortly after going
    past that HR, and at the lower end of the scale getting
    slightly out of breath arount 148).

    The excitement and stress of racing can elevate your
    heartrate a lot -- it's not the same as training

    JT

  3. "Franck Mangin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    The second question is, how should I adjust my training?
    There are 2 ways to look at this:
    1. My aerobic capacity really sucks since I am anaerobic
    99% of the race, so that's what I should work on with
    long slow training, or
    2. Since I am in my anaerobic zone 99% of the time I
    should focus on training my anaerobic abilities through
    intervals to improve performance.

    Any suggestions?

    1) Don't bother to wear a heart rate monitor in a race
    unless you're Cat 2 or above and using the race for
    training purposes. You will ALWAYS show higher than your
    calculated LT until you become really good.

    2) Friel's books make a good training guide. One of the
    things to remember is that "training" is supposed to be
    more or less two types of riding - either the "oh my God
    I can't do this another second" which you then maintain
    for another minute. And the "This can't POSSIBLY be
    doing me any good it's sooooooo slow" which in fact DOES
    do you a lot of good. For this reason when you are
    really training it is probably best to avoid club rides
    which always have some divit and his buddies riding too
    fast to qualify as a slow ride and too slow to qualify
    as a fast ride.

    3) No matter what you might think of your own ability right
    now, after you've been racing for a couple of years you
    won't believe the condition you'll be in. It generally
    takes a couple of years of racing to achieve a fitness
    level high enough to BEGIN serious training. Don't get
    impatient or discouraged.

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