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  1. If you ever wondered what Kilimanjaro would be like fully covered in
    glaciers, than visit Mount Elbrus, the highest mountain on the European
    Continent, 5643m. (~18,500 ft).

    My son and I climbed it last week in fine weather and with no problems.
    The hardest part is that you are constantly slogging up wide snow fields
    in your 'own private hell' from the altitude. but with fine views of the
    Caucasus to keep your mind busy.
    We used a Russia based company to organise everything, Ersh travels,
    www.ersh.sp.ru They were very good and all our permits, stamps, passport
    checks, passport re-checks went without hassle.
    First day we took a chair lift across the valley for acclimisation and
    great views of Elbrus. (Mount Cheget). Found a nice Skye like ridge to
    scramble on as a bonus.
    Then one takes 2 gondolas and a chair lift to the 'Barrels'. But the first
    Gondola wasn't working, so we had an extra 1.5 hour walk from the valley
    floor. The upper chair wasn't working either, so we paid a bit for a fun
    snow cat ride! We camped above the Barrels on a lava flow. Afternoon was a
    walk to the ruins of the Pruit 11 hut. Amazing tent city there! lots and
    lots of people doing the peak, about 75 per day!
    Next day we moved higher and walked to the Pat Rocks at 4600m. only about
    2 hours with the heavy packs to move camp, then 1 hour walk to the Rocks.
    And then summit day, our 4th mountain day! Cruised up the boring snow in a
    steady altitude rhythm. I've got the hang of this now, although my son
    kept pulling ahead. Light winds and not cold, which was lucky and soon we
    were at the saddle between the summits. An intimidating final steep snow
    slope where we almost raced each other for an altitude burn. and then we
    were at the summit cone!
    Had to wait 5 minutes to get access to the summit while others were taking
    their photos. crowded place. 8-( Like the Ben in summer.
    The valley clouds had built up so we couldn't see below, but were in
    sunshine.
    One more night in a tent at the high camp and then to the valley in only 2
    hours the next morning.

    That is my 6th of the 7 summits 8-)
    (In fact, with my repeat of Kili, and if you count the Koz variation, I
    have done 5 of these in the last 18 months).

    A few other comments:
    The Caucasus mountains look fantastic for walking and alpine climbing! we
    did a 10 day round trip, but should have allowed at least another 4 days
    to explore these fine mountains.

    If the weather is good, anyone with a bunch of Munro experience in winter
    and used to using plastic boots could do this.

    There were lots and lots of groups from many countries. I thought it would
    be quiet, but lots of people are going.
    It was totally safe from the political/rebels/Georgia viewpoint.

    Now back to the Corbetts ...

    Rob
    6/7

  2. "Rob Milne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    If you ever wondered what Kilimanjaro would be like fully covered in
    glaciers, than visit Mount Elbrus, the highest mountain on the


    European

    Quoted message said:

    Continent, 5643m. (~18,500 ft).

    My son and I climbed it last week in fine weather and with no


    problems.

    Quoted message said:

    The hardest part is that you are constantly slogging up wide snow


    fields

    Quoted message said:

    in your 'own private hell' from the altitude. but with fine views of


    the

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    Caucasus to keep your mind busy.

    Brilliant Rob, Very well done and much respect to uyou and your son !
    If it is not to personal a question what age is your son and does he
    have the same sort of experience as you do ?

    / Excellent report snipped /

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    That is my 6th of the 7 summits 8-)
    (In fact, with my repeat of Kili, and if you count the Koz


    variation, I

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    have done 5 of these in the last 18 months).

    Good Luck on the big one when you complete your continents !

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    Now back to the Corbetts ...
    Rob
    6/7

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    ..uk (Graham Ingram) said:

    Brilliant Rob, Very well done and much respect to you and your son !
    If it is not to personal a question what age is your son and does he
    have the same sort of experience as you do ?


    He is 20 and done a few hills but not that many. OTOH, he is very fit and
    a fast walker. Normally beats me up the Corbetts. Did x-country running
    and coloured at Heriots.
    We did Mount Kenya and Kilimanjaro together a few years ago (as part of
    his gap year) and he climbed Kili again with a group of young people the
    same year. But only done about 35 Munros or Corbetts.
    So not much mountain experience, but physically strong.

    The power of youth over the treachery of age ...

    I did provide him with equipment and provided the experience part of the
    decision making.

    If your son has done all the Munros, he would be able to do Kili, Elbrus
    and Aconcagua (with a suitable leader).

    Rob

  4. "Rob Milne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    In article <[email hidden]>,


    [email hidden]

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    .uk (Graham Ingram) said:

    Brilliant Rob, Very well done and much respect to you and your son


    !

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    If it is not to personal a question what age is your son and does


    he

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    have the same sort of experience as you do ?


    He is 20 and done a few hills but not that many. OTOH, he is very


    fit and

    Quoted message said:

    a fast walker. Normally beats me up the Corbetts. Did x-country


    running

    Quoted message said:

    and coloured at Heriots.
    We did Mount Kenya and Kilimanjaro together a few years ago (as part


    of

    Quoted message said:

    his gap year) and he climbed Kili again with a group of young people


    the

    Quoted message said:

    same year. But only done about 35 Munros or Corbetts.
    So not much mountain experience, but physically strong.

    The power of youth over the treachery of age ...

    I did provide him with equipment and provided the experience part of


    the

    Quoted message said:

    decision making.

    If your son has done all the Munros, he would be able to do Kili,


    Elbrus

    Quoted message said:

    and Aconcagua (with a suitable leader).

    Mark is also 20, next month in fact, and would love a crack at Kili
    but as this is a Company sponsored trip I am on, unfortunately he will
    not be able to go, I even volunteered to pay his way but it leads to
    insurance issues etc. Thanks for the advice in the Kili thread, It
    does seem most sensible advice is to go slower than a slow thing and I
    think that may well suit my walking style anyway. I am also working on
    the aerobics now using the rowing machines, Nordic Skiers and exercise
    bikes , ( also got in a big hill day Saturday and a 15 mile cycle on
    Sunday ).

    Cheers
    Graham

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