Tour Down Under

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how was the 4th stage sprint by Elia Rigotto (Team Milram) who brought down Rabobank's Matt Hayman. Rigotto was rightly later disqualified from the race.

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hoggy said:

how was the 4th stage sprint by Elia Rigotto (Team Milram) who brought down Rabobank's Matt Hayman. Rigotto was rightly later disqualified from the race.

For anybody who hasn't seen this yet. I mean c'mon, it's the TDU. Surely it isn't that important of a race to be doing stupid [censored] like that.🙄
Racing is racing i spose.

Greipel is an impressive unit. Hadn't even heard of him until this week. I expect him to mix it with some of the big boys this year. A few of the blokes he pwned this week (Renshaw, McEwen, Davis, Brown) aren't bums.

classic1 said:

Greipel is an impressive unit. Hadn't even heard of him until this week. I expect him to mix it with some of the big boys this year. A few of the blokes he pwned this week (Renshaw, McEwen, Davis, Brown) aren't bums.

Fair enough, the guy has potential, but then again, you are not dealing with people at the top of their game... come on.

Let us see how he does in the real season against the big boys and then we can pass judgement on his abilities.

leestevens said:

For anybody who hasn't seen this yet. I mean c'mon, it's the TDU. Surely it isn't that important of a race to be doing stupid [censored] like that.🙄
Racing is racing i spose.

Here's

above. It didn't come out right in your post. The crash is right at the end of the film.

It looks like Hayman had just finished his lead out and was fading across as Rigotto passed... getting in Rigotto's way. Rigotto was probably just making sure Hayman didn't take him out... i.e. a defensive move. Probably didn't intend to fell him... but the knock on Hayman's arm must have just caught him at the wrong time... when he was farked. This isn't rare though is it... to bump a bit in a sprint? I see/experience it on the track sometimes.

Powerful Pete said:

Fair enough, the guy has potential, but then again, you are not dealing with people at the top of their game... come on.

Let us see how he does in the real season against the big boys and then we can pass judgement on his abilities.

The Aussie boys would have been up for it though. Renshaw, Davis...

Thanks for the working link. Greipel is not bad, all most came unstuck in the first sprint, seemed to get a bit lost with people around him. McEwen was nowhere to be seen and there was no other big sprintersd there either, we will see how he goes in the future i think. Otherwise he rode a good race, got himself in the right move on Saturday and took the sprint.
As for Rigotto, perhaps just a shout would have sufficed rather than a headbut to the arm. I certainly don't mind being bumped around when racing but I thought that was a touch excessive. Ohwell, can't change it now and i would hope Rigotto at the very least apologized.
Good race overall though I thought. For the first race of the year anyway. Greipel said a few days ago he was targeting this race so well done to him. I think it is a good race for some of the domestiques to get a win next to their name, for the rest of the year they work pretty hard for not much glory. Looking forward to next year now.🙂

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Powerful Pete said:

Fair enough, the guy has potential, but then again, you are not dealing with people at the top of their game... come on.

Let us see how he does in the real season against the big boys and then we can pass judgement on his abilities.

Brown, Renshaw, Davis all rode the Bay Series crits and the Australian road titles and all have decent form. Greipel is strong, fast and has a big jump. The only question is his stamina. He'll win races this year.

classic1 said:

Brown, Renshaw, Davis all rode the Bay Series crits and the Australian road titles and all have decent form. Greipel is strong, fast and has a big jump. The only question is his stamina. He'll win races this year.

Does the fact he's winning consecutive stages count for stamina... or do you think he needs to prove himself over a longer, hillier course?

Crankyfeet said:

Does the fact he's winning consecutive stages count for stamina... or do you think he needs to prove himself over a longer, hillier course?

The stages were generally short, and he's not going to win Liege-Bastonge-Liege as long as his [censored] points to the ground. Getting to the finish of a 200km bike race and finishing off the job is different to racing 130km stages. But the guy is strong and fast.

classic1 said:

The stages were generally short, and he's not going to win Liege-Bastonge-Liege as long as his [censored] points to the ground. Getting to the finish of a 200km bike race and finishing off the job is different to racing 130km stages. But the guy is strong and fast.

No probebly no LBL for Andre but he could win smaller tours as he is a good time trailer...

leestevens said:

Thanks for the working link. Greipel is not bad, all most came unstuck in the first sprint, seemed to get a bit lost with people around him. McEwen was nowhere to be seen and there was no other big sprintersd there either, we will see how he goes in the future i think. Otherwise he rode a good race, got himself in the right move on Saturday and took the sprint.
As for Rigotto, perhaps just a shout would have sufficed rather than a headbut to the arm. I certainly don't mind being bumped around when racing but I thought that was a touch excessive. Ohwell, can't change it now and i would hope Rigotto at the very least apologized.
Good race overall though I thought. For the first race of the year anyway. Greipel said a few days ago he was targeting this race so well done to him. I think it is a good race for some of the domestiques to get a win next to their name, for the rest of the year they work pretty hard for not much glory. Looking forward to next year now.🙂

LS,

he was balancing his centre of gravity. His propelled direction was straight, but he swerved as Hayman was drifting, and Rigotto was going straight. See the overhead.

He swerves, but to balance and right himself, he needed to use his head to get his centre of gravity straight.

Exactly the same as Mcewen. Nothing in it. They needed a physiologist an scientist to come in and explain the dynamics to the stupid commissaire. Looked very bad front on, but no fault should have been aportioned.

cyclingheroes said:

No probebly no LBL for Andre but he could win smaller tours as he is a good time trailer...

CH,

3 Days of De Panne one would say.

Short cobbled tour, with a short tt under 30 kms.

No one knows if he has the strength to ride 260 kms in Flanders and Roubaix, and if he does, can he sprint at the end.

No doubt in my mind, the guy is faster than Haedo, Boonen and Petacchi, and I think his acceleration is almost like Freire. No one can be as good as Mcewen.

This guy looks like Hushovd. 'Cept better.

thunder said:

LS,

he was balancing his centre of gravity. His propelled direction was straight, but he swerved as Hayman was drifting, and Rigotto was going straight. See the overhead.

He swerves, but to balance and right himself, he needed to use his head to get his centre of gravity straight.

Exactly the same as Mcewen. Nothing in it. They needed a physiologist an scientist to come in and explain the dynamics to the stupid commissaire. Looked very bad front on, but no fault should have been aportioned.

So have the charges(?) been dropped?

Crankyfeet said:

So have the charges(?) been dropped?

there were no charges CRANKSTER!

Yes De Panne, Sarthe, Bavaria that kind of stage races...

thunder said:

CH,

3 Days of De Panne one would say.

Short cobbled tour, with a short tt under 30 kms.

No one knows if he has the strength to ride 260 kms in Flanders and Roubaix, and if he does, can he sprint at the end.

No doubt in my mind, the guy is faster than Haedo, Boonen and Petacchi, and I think his acceleration is almost like Freire. No one can be as good as Mcewen.

This guy looks like Hushovd. 'Cept better.