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    Doubts raised over drugs for cholesterol Side effects have
    included lost memory in some patients By JOHN FAUBER

    [email hidden] Posted: March 27, 2004

    It was hot on the golf course, and, with every hole, the
    mysterious pain that vibrated through Jeff Bryden's body
    worsened, finally forcing him into the locker room.

    Statins And Memory

    In one study, 308 men were given a placebo or two different
    doses of the statin Zocor for six months. In memory tests
    and a test involving a complex maze, the statin users did
    not perform as well as those on the placebo. The difference
    was subtle but significant, said the study's lead author,
    Matthew Muldoon, an associate professor of medicine at the
    University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine. Horror Stories

    Jeff Bryden of Brookfield still has the sensation that his
    muscles are vibrating, almost three years after
    discontinuing statin use. Duane Graveline forgot that he had
    a family and had been a NASA astronaut.

    He drank some Gatorade and took a shower, but the pain only
    intensified, seeming to engulf every muscle in his body.

    "I literally couldn't move," he said. "It looked like the
    exorcist had gotten ahold of me. It was excruciating pain."

    As he lay on a bench, a fellow club member who is a doctor
    saw him and immediately suspected he was suffering a
    reaction to a drug.

    Bryden, 48, of Brookfield, had been taking the cholesterol-
    lowering drug Lipitor,which he and his doctor now believe
    may have caused extensive damage to his muscle cells, a
    condition that could linger for years.

    Bryden's case is unusual, maybe even rare. But a growing
    number of researchers, doctors and patients are wondering
    whether so-called statin drugs are associated with
    significantly more side effects, both minor and more
    serious, than previously thought.

    Those complications include muscle pain, kidney and liver
    conditions, and cognitive problems.

    It's a complex and dicey issue, being raised at a time when
    36 million Americans are being told they should take the
    drugs, although currently only 11 million are following
    that advice.

    Four years ago, the makers of the statins Pravachol and
    Mevacor asked the Food and Drug Administration to allow lower-
    dose versions of those drugs to be sold over-the-counter. An
    FDA advisory committee voted against the application.

    "But it will come back again," said physician Sidney Wolfe
    of the advocacy group Public Citizen. "People want to put it
    in the drinking water."

    Although many doctors don't think statins should be sold over-the-
    counter, some, including cardiologist James Stein, say the
    statin guidelines should be broadened to include more
    patients. Stein, an associate professor of medicine at the
    University of Wisconsin-Madison, said he believes that most
    of the complications reported by patients are overstated.

    For many patients, especially those with heart disease or
    high-risk conditions such as diabetes, statins can be
    lifesavers. Numerous clinical trials have showed that the
    drugs can significantly reduce heart attacks, strokes and
    the need for bypass surgery or angioplasty.

    Measuring side effects As more people take statins, the
    number of side effects has grown. Some doctors now say they
    suspect the incidence of side effects is much higher than
    what has been shown in various clinical trials, including
    several funded by the drug makers.

    "If you believe the clinical trial data, the problems occur
    at very modest rates," said Beatrice Golomb, an assistant
    professor of family medicine at the University of
    California, San Diego, who is conducting two studies on
    statin side effects.

    Those trials generally report side effects in less than 1%
    to 2% of patients. And many of those complications are
    minor and disappear if the drug is discontinued or the
    dose lowered.

    But, "there are clinicians whose personal experience is
    substantially different than what is reported in the
    trials," Golomb said.

    She said that based on her experience and that of
    other doctors, 20% or more of patients encounter some
    side effects.

    People may be excluded from a trial for a variety of
    reasons, including medical conditions. Others may be sought
    out for inclusion because of their ability to tolerate
    drugs, for example. In addition, people in trials often are
    paid and receive free care and medication. That may create a
    disincentive to report side effects for fear of losing those
    benefits, Stein said.

    "People in clinical trials aren't like the rest of the
    world," he said.

    Weighing a drug's risks against its benefits is crucial for
    people who may have a risk factor or two for heart disease
    but aren't in the high-risk groups for which statin therapy
    clearly is recommended.

    Group pushes FDA The issue took on more urgency this month
    when Public Citizen asked the FDA to remove the statin
    Crestor, which came on the market in September.

    The group cited four cases of kidney failure, five
    additional cases of kidney damage, six cases of abnormal
    bleeding, and seven cases of life-threatening rhabdomyolysis
    in patients taking the blood-thinning drug coumadin, which
    can interact with Crestor.

    Otherwise considered rare, rhabdomyolysis is one of the most
    serious statin side effects. It's a condition in which
    muscle tissue is destroyed and released into the blood.

    In 2001, Bayer Corp. was forced to remove its statin,
    Baycol, from the market after it was linked to more than 52
    deaths, including 31 in the United States. Most of the
    deaths involved rhabdomyolysis.

    Wolfe, of Public Citizen, said there is even more reason
    to be concerned about Crestor. He noted that Crestor,
    unlike Baycol, was linked to rhabdomyolysis cases before
    it was approved.

    The FDA is looking into the status of Crestor and hopes to
    respond within 180 days, said Mary Parks, a physician and
    deputy director of the FDA's metabolic and endocrine drug
    products division.

    Gary Bruell, a spokesman for AstraZeneca, the maker of
    Crestor, said the drug was tested in more than 10,000
    patients and "is the most-scrutinized statin ever."

    Statin problems ongoing However, for patients such as
    Bryden, those assurances are not convincing.

    Bryden said he had been suffering muscle cramps and
    fatigue for more than a year before the incident on the
    golf course in July 2001. He also had switched statins -
    from Zocor to Lipitor.

    He saw a neuromuscular specialist at the Medical College of
    Wisconsin, who diagnosed his condition as a disease in his
    muscle cells brought on by statin toxicity, he said. His
    muscles are still sore, despite the fact that he has been
    off statins for nearly three years.

    "I still have that constant feeling that my muscles are
    vibrating," he said.

    Wendy Peltier, the associate professor of neurology at the
    Medical College who diagnosed Bryden, said she and other
    specialists at the college have seen between 30 and 50
    patients with statin-related muscle problems in the past
    few years.

    The drugs seem to cause a variety of muscle problems in some
    people, she said. Most of the time, the problems disappear
    when the drug is discontinued or the patient is given a
    supplement. Cases such as Bryden's are rare, she said.

    Still, she estimated that about 10% of statin users
    encounter some kind of muscle problem.

    In addition, there have been numerous accounts of statin
    users experiencing mental problems.

    For Duane Graveline, a retired doctor and astronaut, the
    memory problem was so bad that he wrote a book about it:
    "Lipitor, Thief of Memory," which was published in February.

    Graveline began using Lipitor four years ago after his
    annual NASA physical showed an elevated cholesterol level.
    He was put on a low dose of the drug. About six weeks later
    his wife found him wandering in their front yard. He could
    not remember recent events, he said.

    "I didn't know who she was," Graveline said.

    Within about six hours, his memory returned. A neurologist
    determined that he had had a bout of transient global
    amnesia. Graveline said he suspected it might be related to
    Lipitor, so he stopped taking it.

    A year later, NASA doctors again told him he needed to
    get his cholesterol down and persuaded him to go back
    on Lipitor.

    Six weeks later, he said, he had another bout of
    amnesia, only this time he lost memory of everything
    after high school.

    When he was told that he was a former astronaut and that he
    was married and had children, "I laughed," he said. "I
    thought that was absurd."

    It took about 12 hours for his memory to return to normal,
    Graveline said.

    Weighing risks, benefits Barbara LePetri, a cardiologist
    with Pfizer, the maker of Lipitor, said the company is
    sponsoring two studies examining whether the drug actually
    improves cognitive function. Although there may be a very
    small number of patients who report memory problems, that
    has to be weighed against the substantial reduction in the
    risk of heart disease and stroke, she said.

    Parks, of the FDA, said the agency is aware of reports of
    cognitive problems among statin users and is monitoring the
    situation. She noted that many of the people who take the
    drugs are older and may have other conditions that cause
    memory problems.

    Studies, however, have raised concern that statins may cause
    cognitive problems and irritability.

    One study looked at 308 men who were given a placebo or the
    statin Zocor for six months. In memory tests and a test
    involving a complex maze, the statin users did not perform
    as well as those on the placebo. The difference was subtle
    but significant, said the study's lead author, Matthew
    Muldoon, an associate professor of medicine at the
    University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine.

    "We don't know why it's happening," he said.

    Muldoon said one theory is that along with cholesterol,
    statins may lower levels of omega-3 fat, which is vital to a
    healthy brain. Another possibility is that the drugs also
    lower levels of a substance known as Coenzyme Q10, an anti-
    oxidant and essential nutrient for cells.

    In addition, cholesterol itself is needed for the basic
    metabolism of every cell in the body. When the level is
    lowered too much, problems can arise, Muldoon said.

    "They are powerful drugs," he said. "We are obligated to do
    more extensive research because we are asking millions of
    people to take these drugs for the rest of their lives."

    However, some research also suggests that statins may
    actually lower the risk of Alzheimer's disease.

    For now, scientists say that for some people statins
    may be beneficial and for a select group the drugs may
    cause problems.

    Golomb, of the University of California, soon will complete
    a large five-year study on statins' effects on cognition,
    behavior and the brain chemical serotonin. With funding
    from the National Institutes of Health, she has been
    studying both detrimental and beneficial effects of statins
    in 1,000 people.

    "What motivated us to do this was all the calls we were
    getting from people saying, 'I've got this problem,' "
    Golomb said. "It may turn out that we are able to
    distinguish groups of people who are more likely to
    experience risk or benefit."

  2. Good informative article on how statins are side-effect free
    for most people (inflammatory subject line aside..)

    It will be really great if the UCSD Statin Study is
    able to target those who could be at more risk of
    serious side-effects.

    (Did you notice the claim of 11 million statin users in
    the U.S.?..!)

    L.

    On 28 Mar 2004 10:19:18 -0800, [email hidden]

    (Zee) said:

    jsonline.com217976.asp

    Doubts raised over drugs for cholesterol Side effects have
    included lost memory in some patients By JOHN FAUBER

    [email hidden] Posted: March 27, 2004

    It was hot on the golf course, and, with every hole, the
    mysterious pain that vibrated through Jeff Bryden's body
    worsened, finally forcing him into the locker room.

    Statins And Memory

    In one study, 308 men were given a placebo or two different
    doses of the statin Zocor for six months. In memory tests
    and a test involving a complex maze, the statin users did
    not perform as well as those on the placebo. The difference
    was subtle but significant, said the study's lead author,
    Matthew Muldoon, an associate professor of medicine at the
    University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine. Horror Stories

    Jeff Bryden of Brookfield still has the sensation that his
    muscles are vibrating, almost three years after
    discontinuing statin use. Duane Graveline forgot that he
    had a family and had been a NASA astronaut.

    He drank some Gatorade and took a shower, but the pain only
    intensified, seeming to engulf every muscle in his body.

    "I literally couldn't move," he said. "It looked like the
    exorcist had gotten ahold of me. It was excruciating pain."

    As he lay on a bench, a fellow club member who is a doctor
    saw him and immediately suspected he was suffering a
    reaction to a drug.

    Bryden, 48, of Brookfield, had been taking the cholesterol-
    lowering drug Lipitor,which he and his doctor now believe
    may have caused extensive damage to his muscle cells, a
    condition that could linger for years.

    Bryden's case is unusual, maybe even rare. But a growing
    number of researchers, doctors and patients are wondering
    whether so-called statin drugs are associated with
    significantly more side effects, both minor and more
    serious, than previously thought.

    Those complications include muscle pain, kidney and liver
    conditions, and cognitive problems.

    It's a complex and dicey issue, being raised at a time when
    36 million Americans are being told they should take the
    drugs, although currently only 11 million are following
    that advice.

    Four years ago, the makers of the statins Pravachol and
    Mevacor asked the Food and Drug Administration to allow lower-
    dose versions of those drugs to be sold over-the-counter.
    An FDA advisory committee voted against the application.

    "But it will come back again," said physician Sidney Wolfe
    of the advocacy group Public Citizen. "People want to put
    it in the drinking water."

    Although many doctors don't think statins should be sold
    over-the-counter, some, including cardiologist James Stein,
    say the statin guidelines should be broadened to include
    more patients. Stein, an associate professor of medicine at
    the University of Wisconsin-Madison, said he believes that
    most of the complications reported by patients are
    overstated.

    For many patients, especially those with heart disease or
    high-risk conditions such as diabetes, statins can be
    lifesavers. Numerous clinical trials have showed that the
    drugs can significantly reduce heart attacks, strokes and
    the need for bypass surgery or angioplasty.

    Measuring side effects As more people take statins, the
    number of side effects has grown. Some doctors now say they
    suspect the incidence of side effects is much higher than
    what has been shown in various clinical trials, including
    several funded by the drug makers.

    "If you believe the clinical trial data, the problems occur
    at very modest rates," said Beatrice Golomb, an assistant
    professor of family medicine at the University of
    California, San Diego, who is conducting two studies on
    statin side effects.

    Those trials generally report side effects in less than 1%
    to 2% of patients. And many of those complications are
    minor and disappear if the drug is discontinued or the
    dose lowered.

    But, "there are clinicians whose personal experience is
    substantially different than what is reported in the
    trials," Golomb said.

    She said that based on her experience and that of
    other doctors, 20% or more of patients encounter some
    side effects.

    People may be excluded from a trial for a variety of
    reasons, including medical conditions. Others may be sought
    out for inclusion because of their ability to tolerate
    drugs, for example. In addition, people in trials often are
    paid and receive free care and medication. That may create
    a disincentive to report side effects for fear of losing
    those benefits, Stein said.

    "People in clinical trials aren't like the rest of the
    world," he said.

    Weighing a drug's risks against its benefits is crucial for
    people who may have a risk factor or two for heart disease
    but aren't in the high-risk groups for which statin therapy
    clearly is recommended.

    Group pushes FDA The issue took on more urgency this month
    when Public Citizen asked the FDA to remove the statin
    Crestor, which came on the market in September.

    The group cited four cases of kidney failure, five
    additional cases of kidney damage, six cases of abnormal
    bleeding, and seven cases of life-threatening
    rhabdomyolysis in patients taking the blood-thinning drug
    coumadin, which can interact with Crestor.

    Otherwise considered rare, rhabdomyolysis is one of the
    most serious statin side effects. It's a condition in which
    muscle tissue is destroyed and released into the blood.

    In 2001, Bayer Corp. was forced to remove its statin,
    Baycol, from the market after it was linked to more than 52
    deaths, including 31 in the United States. Most of the
    deaths involved rhabdomyolysis.

    Wolfe, of Public Citizen, said there is even more reason to
    be concerned about Crestor. He noted that Crestor, unlike
    Baycol, was linked to rhabdomyolysis cases before it was
    approved.

    The FDA is looking into the status of Crestor and hopes to
    respond within 180 days, said Mary Parks, a physician and
    deputy director of the FDA's metabolic and endocrine drug
    products division.

    Gary Bruell, a spokesman for AstraZeneca, the maker of
    Crestor, said the drug was tested in more than 10,000
    patients and "is the most-scrutinized statin ever."

    Statin problems ongoing However, for patients such as
    Bryden, those assurances are not convincing.

    Bryden said he had been suffering muscle cramps and
    fatigue for more than a year before the incident on the
    golf course in July 2001. He also had switched statins -
    from Zocor to Lipitor.

    He saw a neuromuscular specialist at the Medical College of
    Wisconsin, who diagnosed his condition as a disease in his
    muscle cells brought on by statin toxicity, he said. His
    muscles are still sore, despite the fact that he has been
    off statins for nearly three years.

    "I still have that constant feeling that my muscles are
    vibrating," he said.

    Wendy Peltier, the associate professor of neurology at the
    Medical College who diagnosed Bryden, said she and other
    specialists at the college have seen between 30 and 50
    patients with statin-related muscle problems in the past
    few years.

    The drugs seem to cause a variety of muscle problems in
    some people, she said. Most of the time, the problems
    disappear when the drug is discontinued or the patient
    is given a supplement. Cases such as Bryden's are rare,
    she said.

    Still, she estimated that about 10% of statin users
    encounter some kind of muscle problem.

    In addition, there have been numerous accounts of statin
    users experiencing mental problems.

    For Duane Graveline, a retired doctor and astronaut, the
    memory problem was so bad that he wrote a book about it:
    "Lipitor, Thief of Memory," which was published in
    February.

    Graveline began using Lipitor four years ago after his
    annual NASA physical showed an elevated cholesterol level.
    He was put on a low dose of the drug. About six weeks later
    his wife found him wandering in their front yard. He could
    not remember recent events, he said.

    "I didn't know who she was," Graveline said.

    Within about six hours, his memory returned. A neurologist
    determined that he had had a bout of transient global
    amnesia. Graveline said he suspected it might be related to
    Lipitor, so he stopped taking it.

    A year later, NASA doctors again told him he needed to
    get his cholesterol down and persuaded him to go back
    on Lipitor.

    Six weeks later, he said, he had another bout of
    amnesia, only this time he lost memory of everything
    after high school.

    When he was told that he was a former astronaut and that he
    was married and had children, "I laughed," he said. "I
    thought that was absurd."

    It took about 12 hours for his memory to return to normal,
    Graveline said.

    Weighing risks, benefits Barbara LePetri, a cardiologist
    with Pfizer, the maker of Lipitor, said the company is
    sponsoring two studies examining whether the drug actually
    improves cognitive function. Although there may be a very
    small number of patients who report memory problems, that
    has to be weighed against the substantial reduction in the
    risk of heart disease and stroke, she said.

    Parks, of the FDA, said the agency is aware of reports of
    cognitive problems among statin users and is monitoring the
    situation. She noted that many of the people who take the
    drugs are older and may have other conditions that cause
    memory problems.

    Studies, however, have raised concern that statins may
    cause cognitive problems and irritability.

    One study looked at 308 men who were given a placebo or the
    statin Zocor for six months. In memory tests and a test
    involving a complex maze, the statin users did not perform
    as well as those on the placebo. The difference was subtle
    but significant, said the study's lead author, Matthew
    Muldoon, an associate professor of medicine at the
    University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine.

    "We don't know why it's happening," he said.

    Muldoon said one theory is that along with cholesterol,
    statins may lower levels of omega-3 fat, which is vital to
    a healthy brain. Another possibility is that the drugs also
    lower levels of a substance known as Coenzyme Q10, an anti-
    oxidant and essential nutrient for cells.

    In addition, cholesterol itself is needed for the basic
    metabolism of every cell in the body. When the level is
    lowered too much, problems can arise, Muldoon said.

    "They are powerful drugs," he said. "We are obligated to do
    more extensive research because we are asking millions of
    people to take these drugs for the rest of their lives."

    However, some research also suggests that statins may
    actually lower the risk of Alzheimer's disease.

    For now, scientists say that for some people statins may be
    beneficial and for a select group the drugs may cause
    problems.

    Golomb, of the University of California, soon will complete
    a large five-year study on statins' effects on cognition,
    behavior and the brain chemical serotonin. With funding
    from the National Institutes of Health, she has been
    studying both detrimental and beneficial effects of statins
    in 1,000 people.

    "What motivated us to do this was all the calls we were
    getting from people saying, 'I've got this problem,' "
    Golomb said. "It may turn out that we are able to
    distinguish groups of people who are more likely to
    experience risk or benefit."

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