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  1. "Rodders" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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    Quoted message said:


    "Brian" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Just been into Edinburgh, and splashed out on a Garmin Gecko 201 gps reciever!

    £139.99 from Nevisports, seems a good enough price, although they PC link up cable was £37!! -
    Tisos were charging £160 for the very same GPS, and weren't willing to do a price match.

    After reading the recent GPS threads ordered one and received it yesterday from
    globalpositioningsystems.co.ukallprods.php

    £114.95 inc VAT with free delivery

    Rory

    Whoah! Thats quite a saving - wish I had waited and shopped online for it......

    :-/

    --
    Brian

  2. [email hidden] (RJ Webb) wrote in news:4033b529.11235703
    @news-text.blueyonder.co.uk:

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    Quoted message said:

    Quite looking forward to giving it an airing tomorrow - I'm planning to have a wander up into the
    Ochil Hills, possibly through Alva Glen:

    Tell us how the reception is down in the Glen. The Alva and Dollar Glens are a good test of GPS
    reception.

    Richard Webb

    Well, here is a map I have just made overlaying the track saved by the GPS onto an OS map
    of the area:

    b_innes.tripod.comalva glen gps track.jpg

    Only obvious error is in that big spike going up the hill towards the waterfall - must have been the
    reciever losing track and putting in an incorrect waypoint or 2

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    Brian

  3. Brian <[email hidden]> wrote

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    Well, here is a map I have just made overlaying the track saved by the GPS onto an OS map of
    the area:

    b_innes.tripod.comalva glen gps track.jpg

    Only obvious error is in that big spike going up the hill towards the waterfall - must have been
    the reciever losing track and putting in an incorrect waypoint or 2


    If that's the only break it looks quite good, looking at the depth of the valley you were in. Not
    exactly the ideal reception situation!

    What's that little word in the bottom left corner, BTW? ;-)
    --
    Gordon

  4. Quoted message said:

    b_innes.tripod.comalva glen gps track.jpg

    Only obvious error is in that big spike going up the hill towards the waterfall - must have been
    the reciever losing track and putting in an incorrect waypoint or 2

    --
    Brian

    Impressive... A very accurate track

    I first went up Ben Cleuch by way of that waterfall, hard work!

    Richard Webb

  5. Gordon <[email hidden]> wrote in
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    Brian <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:


    Well, here is a map I have just made overlaying the track saved by the GPS onto an OS map of
    the area:

    b_innes.tripod.comalva glen gps track.jpg

    Only obvious error is in that big spike going up the hill towards the waterfall - must have been
    the reciever losing track and putting in an incorrect waypoint or 2


    If that's the only break it looks quite good, looking at the depth of the valley you were in. Not
    exactly the ideal reception situation!

    What's that little word in the bottom left corner, BTW? ;-)

    "yright"

    I might try overlaying the gps data on a scanned harvey map of the area - a nice 300dpi scan should
    be a good test of the accuracy!

    --
    Brian

  6. "Paul Saunders" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:c15mar$ogl$1
    @news6.svr.pol.co.uk:

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    Stuart Mann said:

    Do you use any filters on your G5 in the hills? I've always used a skylight filter for lens
    protection on my traditional cameras - is that still appropriate on a digital camera?

    I bought an adapter for my G3 and put a skylight and a lens hood on it. I ended up leaving the
    wide angle converter on it most of the time though so I didn't use it with the skylight very
    often. A skylight adds a light pink cast so you might be better of using a plain UV filter.

    Quoted message said:

    As for protecting the lens, a lens mainly needs protecting if you are in the habit of walking
    around carrying the camera with the lens hood off. Good to get into the habit of putting the lens
    hood back when you're not actually shooting, even if you'll be taking another photo soon. Also, if
    you have to negotiate any tricky terrain it's best to put the camera back into the case, even if
    you're only walking 20 or 30 yards across rocks. I slipped on rocks once and instinctively let go
    of my precious expensive camera in order to break my fall. I'd never have believed that I'd let go
    of my camera until that happened. Luckily the strap was around my neck!

    I tend to avoid filters unless necessary nowadays, the less glass to affect the image the better.


    Useful thoughts, Paul. Thanks. Using a lens without a protective filter might feel a bit like
    driving without a seatbelt for a while, but perhaps I'll try it. What do you do if your lens gets
    spots of rain on it - and do you use your G3, briefly, in drizzle or rain without ill effect?

    Stuart

    Quoted message said:

    Paul
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  7. "Paul Saunders" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    | ste mc © wrote:
    |
    | > tokens for the Canon EOS 10D competition - but in this issue, it is asking for a photo to be
    | > sent in. Dammit, I hate tie-breakers that rely on skill, I've got no chance now...
    |
    | What about your water splash shot?

    I actually got an email from a Romanian university about that shot, and they wanted to use it on the
    front cover of a text book! No fee, but it would be nice if they did use it. I've not heard from
    them since, but they said it was supposed to go to print in February and that they'd send me a copy.
    I thought it was a prank at first, but I traced the email to the university, and there was a
    professor there with that name. I then wondered how they found it, and if you type 'droplet photo'
    into Yahoo, it WAS about the 5th link in the search result as part of my usefilm.com portfolio -
    I've just checked now, and can't even find it on the listings. Anyway, I hope they use it, but
    chances are, he's emailed quite a few people and now has the choice of lots of photos so probably
    never used it. I'll let you know if I hear anything.

    Back to the question though, and the photo theme was 'magic moments.' I'll see what I can do, but
    I'm not hopeful.

    | Paul

    Ste

  8. "Paul Saunders" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:c15mhs$kqb$1
    @newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Thanks for the tips. I shall wander around the local countryside over the weekend and enjoy the
    concept of taking photographs uninhibited by processing costs.

    But cursing the fact that you didn't buy enough flash card memory!

    Yes - 32Mb doesn't go far, does it. I haven't done my price research on memory yet, but I calculated
    on buying a lot more. How important is the speed of the card in a G5 - is the card the rate limiting
    step for reading/writing or is it the camera? Have you noticed any speed difference between
    differently specified cards on your G3, Paul?

    Quoted message said:

    Don't forget to charge the battery and use RAW mode!!! (Even if you don't think you need it yet
    you'll regret it when you realise why you should have been using it from the start).

    Thanks - I haven't got my head around that side of things yet so I appreciate your advice. Do you
    use the PS7 plugin from Adobe for RAW files, or is there another way of handling them to get
    images into PS?

    Thanks again!

    Stuart

  9. "Stuart Mann" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    | "ste mc ©" <[email hidden]> wrote in :"]news:[email hidden]:

    <snip>

    | >| Do you use any filters on your G5 in the hills? I've always used a skylight filter for lens
    | >| protection on my traditional cameras - is that still appropriate on a digital camera?
    | >
    | > I've got a Cokin filter holder and various square Cokin 'A' filters that slide into this,
    | > together with a circular polariser. To attach the filter holder, I bought the lensmate from
    | > www.lensmateonline.com and attached the adaptor ring to this. I leave the lensmate on all the
    | > time, and have bought a lens cap to fix onto the end of it. I know of people using UV filters
    | > all the time to protect the lens, so I guess that this would help a digital camera as much as a
    | > film camera, after all, the lenses are still made of glass and can suffer the came damage.
    | >
    | Arghhh! I bought a case today that wont accommodate that adaptor but I can see lensmate is the way
    | to go - especially as I already have a set of 52mm filters. I expect Jessops will change the case,
    | if they're not too hacked off at being knocked down £120 on the camera!

    If you start buying lots of accessories, then I'd recommend the LowePro Nova AW. It was about £30,
    but it can hold my G5 (with the adaptor attached), a Canon 420EX flash, a flash diffuser, my Tiffen
    2x teleconverter, a Tiffen .75 wide angle converter, a standard 50mm lens (can be attached to the
    lensmate in reverse for extreme macro shots, like this one: usefilm.com172536.html
    ), lots of Cokin filters and a filter holder, and various cleaning cloths, cleaning pens, etc... I
    must say though, after previously owned a Fuji F601 digital camera, which fitted in my pocket, this
    is a much bulkier setup. But I found that once I had bought all these accessories, I wanted them
    with me all the time, just in case I needed them. I'd been out a few times, and wanted to take a
    certain type of photo, but never had the right accessory with me. I can upload a photo of the case
    and accessories if you want to see what the bag and contents fit together, just let me know.

    | Thanks for the tips. I shall wander around the local countryside over the weekend and enjoy the
    | concept of taking photographs uninhibited by processing costs.

    No problems, and have fun!

    Ste

  10. "Stuart Mann" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    | "Paul Saunders" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:c15mhs$kqb$1 @newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk:
    |
    |
    | >> Thanks for the tips. I shall wander around the local countryside over the weekend and enjoy the
    | >> concept of taking photographs uninhibited by processing costs.
    | >
    | > But cursing the fact that you didn't buy enough flash card memory!
    |
    | Yes - 32Mb doesn't go far, does it. I haven't done my price research on memory yet, but I
    | calculated on buying a lot more. How important is the speed of the card in a G5 - is the card the
    | rate limiting step for reading/writing or is it the camera? Have you noticed any speed difference
    | between differently specified cards on your G3, Paul?

    I've got 3 x 512mb SanDisk cards. They're just regular and cheap cards, but I've had no problems
    with them. I read somewhere that with these cameras, the speed difference is hardly noticable, and
    certainly not worth the extra cost, but each to his own.

    | > Don't forget to charge the battery and use RAW mode!!! (Even if you don't think you need it yet
    | > you'll regret it when you realise why you should have been using it from the start).
    |
    | Thanks - I haven't got my head around that side of things yet so I appreciate your advice. Do you
    | use the PS7 plugin from Adobe for RAW
    files,
    | or is there another way of handling them to get images into PS?

    Use the software that camera with the camera to convert them into TIF or JPEG. It's called Canon
    Digital Camera File Viewer Utility. Just open the CRW file with the program and do the rest from
    there. I did used to record all my images are large superfine jpeg's as it was easier and saved
    having to convert them. But now, I slightly regret doing so, and take all my photos in RAW mode now.

    | Thanks again!
    |
    | Stuart

    Ste

  11. Brian said:

    I might try overlaying the gps data on a scanned harvey map of the area - a nice 300dpi scan
    should be a good test of the accuracy!

    Hey Brian, I tried sending you an email but I couldn't figure out your email address, can you
    send it to me?

    Paul
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    wilderness-wales.co.ukwilderness-wales.co.uk
    wildwales.fsnet.co.ukwildwales.fsnet.co.uk
    photosig.comuserphotos

  12. ste mc © said:
    Quoted message said:

    What about your water splash shot?

    I actually got an email from a Romanian university

    Romulan university? I must be a bit [censored]. Just saw Nemesis a couple of days ago, excellent
    computer graphic action.

    Anyway, that's a terrific shot of yours, it wouldn't be at all unfair if you got paid some
    money for it.

    Paul
    --
    wilderness-wales.co.ukwilderness-wales.co.uk
    wildwales.fsnet.co.ukwildwales.fsnet.co.uk
    photosig.comuserphotos

  13. Stuart Mann said:
    Quoted message said:

    But cursing the fact that you didn't buy enough flash card memory!

    Yes - 32Mb doesn't go far, does it.

    You still only have that? I hardly ever used it, it only held 7 raw shots. In fact I threw in my two
    128 meg cards to sweeten the deal when I sold my G3, I really didn't want them any more, too small,
    only equivalent to half a roll of film each with my new camera.

    Quoted message said:

    I haven't done my price research on memory yet, but I calculated on buying a lot more. How
    important is the speed of the card in a G5 - is the card the rate limiting step for
    reading/writing or is it the camera? Have you noticed any speed difference between differently
    specified cards on your G3, Paul?

    No. Not that I've really paid much attention. I'm sure I'd notice a difference if I did a proper
    test, but card writing speed has never been a factor worth worrying about with landscape
    photography. I recently bought a 512 meg Ultra card, but I haven't noticed any difference. It's
    actually a lot slower to download images to my computer, so the extra file size (7MB compared to
    4MB) is more significant than the supposedly faster card speed.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Don't forget to charge the battery and use RAW mode!!! (Even if you don't think you need it yet
    you'll regret it when you realise why you should have been using it from the start).

    Thanks - I haven't got my head around that side of things yet so I appreciate your advice. Do you
    use the PS7 plugin from Adobe for RAW files, or is there another way of handling them to get
    images into PS?

    The software that comes with the camera provides a reasonable, if basic, method of converting raw
    files to tiffs. Photoshop CS has the raw converter built in. There's probably not that much
    difference since you've got all the power you need to change them in Photoshop. It's only a 36 bit
    image stored in a 48 bit format, so there's plenty of leeway.

    My advice about raw is to use it in preference to jpeg if possible (but you'll need a reasonable
    amount of compact flash memory before you have the luxury of being able to do that), even if you
    don't understand why at the moment. I'm very glad that some of my early shots were saved in raw
    format. I'm equally unglad that some of them weren't.

    The G series cameras have a nice feature that allows you to take jpegs as the default, but with the
    option of saving as raw after you've taken a shot if you press the function button before the review
    time runs out. Since I always set the review to "infinite" or whatever it's called, I had time to
    study each shot before deciding whether to save it as raw or not. Once I got more memory that ceased
    to be an issue, I simply saved everything in raw format.

    Nowadays my increased file size means that I have to be very careful with the mere 768 meg of memory
    that I have. I've decided that it's better to take fewer photographs in raw mode than to increase my
    capacity by using those crappy jpegs. I just refuse to use that low quality [censored] anymore. ;-)

    Disclaimer: For those who like to use jpegs I should stress that this strategy is okay if you aren't
    inclined to post process your images. Saving as jpegs for direct printing is acceptable, but you
    have to make sure that the exposure etc. is pretty much as you want in-camera. Post processing a
    jpeg does cause image quality to deteriorate.

    Paul
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    wildwales.fsnet.co.ukwildwales.fsnet.co.uk
    photosig.comuserphotos

  14. ste mc © said:

    I've got 3 x 512mb SanDisk cards. They're just regular and cheap cards, but I've had no problems
    with them. I read somewhere that with these cameras, the speed difference is hardly noticable, and
    certainly not worth the extra cost, but each to his own.

    That's what I've noticed, or not to be more precise. My 512 meg ultra card seems to be no faster
    than my normal 256 meg one.

    Quoted message said:

    I did used to record all my images are large superfine jpeg's as it was easier and saved having to
    convert them. But now, I slightly regret doing so, and take all my photos in RAW mode now.

    Told you so! :-)

    Paul
    --
    wilderness-wales.co.ukwilderness-wales.co.uk
    wildwales.fsnet.co.ukwildwales.fsnet.co.uk
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  15. Stuart Mann said:

    Useful thoughts, Paul. Thanks. Using a lens without a protective filter might feel a bit like
    driving without a seatbelt for a while, but perhaps I'll try it.

    Well I don't find it to be a problem if you don't put the lens at risk,
    i.e. if you aren't moving around.

    Quoted message said:

    What do you do if your lens gets spots of rain on it - and do you use your G3, briefly, in drizzle
    or rain without ill effect?

    A filter is definitely better in rainy conditions, or even a full blown rain cover (I've constructed
    one for myself). I no longer have the G3, but I have used it very briefly in rain, not for long
    though. A friend of mine who takes news shots has risked quite serious rain with his G3 (more than I
    would) and has had no disasters. Apparently it's more rain proof than it's claimed to be, but I
    wouldn't recommended testing that.

    In the past, film SLRs with electronic shutters and exposure meters have let me down, so I'm ultra
    paranoid about using a digital camera in the rain. I've already constructed a rain cover for myself
    (attached to a Cokin P series lens hood) so I have no intention of using it in the rain without
    extra protection.

    Paul
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  16. "Rodders" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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    After reading the recent GPS threads ordered one and received it yesterday from
    globalpositioningsystems.co.ukallprods.php

    £114.95 inc VAT with free delivery

    Rory

    Try this - hold down "OK" while turning on the unit - you should get to a debug screen, which
    displays Temperature! Don't know how accurate the temperature reading is though, but the debug
    screen also shows battery voltage - mine just fell to 2.09v, and the unit turned itself off - guess
    I need to recharge the batterys, I'll try not to break a finger nail on the annoying battery cover!

    --
    Brian

  17. Paul Saunders <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:
    Stuart Mann said:
    Quoted message said:

    But cursing the fact that you didn't buy enough flash card memory!

    Yes - 32Mb doesn't go far, does it.

    You still only have that? I hardly ever used it, it only held 7 raw shots. In fact I threw in my
    two 128 meg cards to sweeten the deal when I sold my G3, I really didn't want them any more, too
    small, only equivalent to half a roll of film each with my new camera.


    You have convinced me to stick with my 2 Megapixels.........

    I only look at my photos on-screen, and if I do print out the whole area on A4 I am well 'appy with
    the result.
    --
    Gordon

  18. Gordon said:

    You have convinced me to stick with my 2 Megapixels.........

    I only look at my photos on-screen, and if I do print out the whole area on A4 I am well 'appy
    with the result.

    Well if it suits your purposes and you're 'appy, good for you.

    Paul
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    wildwales.fsnet.co.ukwildwales.fsnet.co.uk
    photosig.comuserphotos

  19. Brian said:

    Try this - hold down "OK" while turning on the unit - you should get to a debug screen, which
    displays Temperature! Don't know how accurate the temperature reading is though, but the debug
    screen also shows battery voltage - mine just fell to 2.09v, and the unit turned itself off - guess
    I need to recharge the batterys, I'll try not to break a finger nail on the annoying battery cover!

    The temperature comes from an internal sensor used for correcting a very high precision clock used
    in collecting GPS data. It's *not* used for the low accuracy clock which provides the time display!
    It will be accurate ambient temp if the unit has been left "soaking" in ambient temperature for a
    long time while switched off, possibly over half an hour. After switch on it warms up.

    So it'll tell you your tent temperature when you switch it on in the morning, for example.

    --
    Chris Malcolm [email hidden] +44 (0)131 651 3445 DoD #205
    IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK
    ["]http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/]

  20. "Chris Malcolm" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Brian said:

    Try this - hold down "OK" while turning on the unit - you should get to a debug screen, which
    displays Temperature! Don't know how accurate the temperature reading is though, but the
    debug screen also shows battery voltage - mine just fell to 2.09v, and the unit turned itself
    off - guess


    I

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    need to recharge the batterys, I'll try not to break a finger nail on the annoying battery cover!

    The temperature comes from an internal sensor used for correcting a very high precision clock used
    in collecting GPS data. It's *not* used for the low accuracy clock which provides the time
    display! It will be accurate ambient temp if the unit has been left "soaking" in ambient
    temperature for a long time while switched off, possibly over half an hour. After switch on it
    warms up.

    So it'll tell you your tent temperature when you switch it on in the morning, for example.

    --
    Chris Malcolm [email hidden] +44 (0)131 651 3445 DoD #205 IPAB, Informatics, JCMB,
    King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK ["]http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/]


    I thought the inbuilt thermometer was for use in calibrating the altimeter. I just assumed this
    based on the fact that all these other electronic altimeters (Suunto / Avocet) etc need this
    function. Interesting "Easter Egg" tho. I'll need to use it ti see how my NIMHs bear up.

    druidh

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