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  1. I'm not good in the red zone. Need some practical training
    tips. I am a cat 3 and a pretty good crit racer with way
    above average acceleration. (Just thought I would through
    that out there but I can't imagine that this skill will help
    at all in a TT).

    Based on a recent team TT it seems that I hit my LT so
    suddenly that I don't have time to make any adjustments.

    At this point I am not even using a heart rate monitor-
    broken recently. I know, I know, I'll get one!

    Let me know what works for you

  2. crit jumps don't help much,,, need hard and steady pace.. HR
    would help but not when you start slipping off the back
    after your pull only to see that red line coming.....been
    there, done that....

    "pbook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    I'm not good in the red zone. Need some practical training
    tips. I am a cat 3 and a pretty good crit racer with way
    above average acceleration. (Just thought I would through
    that out there but I can't imagine that this skill will
    help at all in a TT).

    Based on a recent team TT it seems that I hit my LT so
    suddenly that I don't have time to make any adjustments.

    At this point I am not even using a heart rate monitor-
    broken recently. I know, I know, I'll get one!

    Let me know what works for you

  3. But seriously folks: try 1-hour warm up at 50%AT (anabolic
    threshold), increase to 70-AT for flat intervals (steady
    stairstep times ... 1
    min....then rest....2 min...then rest....3 min....rest....up
    to 10min. Then repeat a couple more times again. And DO
    have a car waiting for you when you get to your last
    interval. But don't do it more than twice a week, and on
    other days work your sprint back to where it was before
    all that hard and steady. And remember, these guys ride
    at 80-95%AT for an hour, then go for a 200km ride the
    next day..... ah fun

    "vernon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:uP-
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    Quoted message said:

    crit jumps don't help much,,, need hard and steady pace..
    HR would help


    but

    Quoted message said:

    not when you start slipping off the back after your pull
    only to see that red line coming.....been there, done
    that....

    "pbook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I'm not good in the red zone. Need some practical
    training tips. I am a cat 3 and a pretty good crit racer
    with way above average acceleration. (Just thought I
    would through that out there but I can't imagine that
    this skill will help at all in a TT).

    Based on a recent team TT it seems that I hit my LT so
    suddenly that I don't have time to make any adjustments.

    At this point I am not even using a heart rate monitor-
    broken recently. I know, I know, I'll get one!

    Let me know what works for you

  4. "pbook" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I'm not good in the red zone. Need some practical training
    tips. I am a cat 3 and a pretty good crit racer with way
    above average acceleration. (Just thought I would through
    that out there but I can't imagine that this skill will
    help at all in a TT).

    Based on a recent team TT it seems that I hit my LT so
    suddenly that I don't have time to make any adjustments.

    You don't mean LT, do you?

    For normal TT, warm up properly, like 10 to 15 miles at 5
    mph under what you expect to do for the TT, coming up to
    time to go do a couple of minutes at TT pace, aim to be by
    the start line two or three minutes before you're due off.
    Get off the bike, stretch quickly, especially calves and
    hamstrings, go to the start line when your minute man
    starts. Off the start, hit it for 10-20 seconds to get up to
    speed, by spinning not pushing, then change up the gears to
    where you want to settle in, get on the TT bars and keep
    calm. The first few miles will feel really easy; just keep
    spinning, don't take the pace up. Then it'll start to get
    painful (and boring) and you just have to hang on in. Try to
    judge your effort so you don't have anything left to sprint
    through the finish; blowing up with a few hundred yards to
    go is better than being able to take it up for the line. If
    it's flat and not windy, you'll just be sitting in one gear
    the whole time, and the only 'interesting' bit will be
    remembering to change down so you can accelerate out of the
    roundabout at the turn(s). If there's a hill, save yourself
    a bit before the hill, work your balls off up the hill and
    over the top, aim to be blowing up a bit about when you're
    up to speed again going down the other side (not at the top
    of the hill, if you're not up to speed then you are losing
    time), then rest down the hill.

    For TTT, pretty much the same applies, plus don't try to do
    anything special until you're well into the course and
    you're sure you can manage. If you've agreed 30 second
    turns, then do 30 second turns, not 31 second turns, and if
    you're not sure you can hack it do 25 second turns for a
    bit, or sit on the back if you're about to be dropped. Your
    teammates will not mind too much if you're not doing your
    share of the work; they will mind if you're suddenly not
    doing any work after your ego takes over and you blow up and
    drop off the back. Make sure you're as close to the guy
    ahead as you can be when you're not on the front; when you
    get to the front make sure you don't take the pace up or
    everyone will hate you. If you think you should be going
    faster, take longer turns rather than taking the pace up at
    the front; if you're coming up to a hill have the less good
    climbers skip turns, and if you're going up a really short
    hill or accelerating out of a turn try not to drop the guys
    who can't sprint. If the TTT is last man counts for time,
    then you're going to have to stay together; but if it's e.g.
    third man of four, then you'd better have a hand signal
    agreed for either 'wait, i'm coming back' or 'go on without
    me'; if someone misses a corner and ends up ten seconds
    behind the rest of you half way round, you want to wait for
    them to come back (and not make them chase on); if someone
    is blown up and can't hang on to the group you don't want to
    waste thirty seconds letting them catch up only to find they
    can't stay on. Good signals: head down in TT position means
    'i'm coming back', sitting up, one arm up means 'go on'. If
    you are the dropped guy, aim to finish the course as fast as
    you can; you'll probably be wasting your effort, but
    occasionally you'll come upon your team a bit further on
    with their required third place counter having broken his
    bike and you'll be needed.

    Peter

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