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  1. The redoutable Guardian!!

    guardian.co.uk0,3858,4895880
    103409,00.html

    Let them eat cake, butter, cream ... For decades the advice
    has been to cut cholesterol and protect your heart. Now some
    doctors think it makes no difference

    Jerome Burne Tuesday April 6, 2004 The Guardian

    There is almost no connection between the amount of
    cholesterol in your blood and your risk of a heart attack.
    Not only that, if you don't already have heart disease, you
    probably won't live any longer if you bring your cholesterol
    level down. Finally, statins, the cholesterol-reducing drugs
    we are all being urged to take, are of little use to women.

    These are just a few of the highly controversial claims
    being made by a loose network of researchers, known
    collectively as the Cholesterol Skeptics, who are mounting a
    direct challenge to one of the cornerstones of public health
    policy - the notion that reducing cholesterol saves lives at
    risk from heart disease. Any doctor will tell you that if
    your cholesterol level is higher than five (millimoles per
    litre) that you should bring it down, probably through
    taking one of the statins family.

    According to the Cholesterol Skeptics, however, this will
    not only involve the NHS in a massively increased drug bill
    when many cheaper options are available, but will only
    benefit men who already have a heart condition. Can such
    views, which fly so directly in the face of the entire
    medical establishment, have any basis in fact?

    The proponents certainly make some challenging points. For
    instance, they say that there is precious little evidence
    that a longer life results for those millions of people who
    for years have dutifully taken their drugs and endured cholesterol-
    reducing diets. In fact, a number of trials have found
    that, even though the number of deaths from heart disease
    does fall when cholesterol is reduced by a range of means
    among patients in primary care - that is, at GP level -
    there is often an increase in the overall death rate from
    other causes.

    Writing in the British Medical Journal (BMJ) at the end of
    last year, for instance, Rebecca Warburton, a professor at
    the University of Victoria in Canada, reviewed studies of
    statins and concluded: "Statins in primary prevention have
    not consistently reduced the incidence of myocardial
    infarction [heart attack] or stroke. Other studies have even
    found that over the age of 50, reducing cholesterol
    increases the death rate.

    The notion that cholesterol is linked to heart disease goes
    back to the middle of last century, along with the idea of
    bringing cholesterol levels down with a low-fat diet to
    protect the heart. But both of these ideas have been
    strongly challenged. For example, plenty of studies show
    that only 50% of people who develop heart problems have high
    cholesterol, while a study in the BMJ in 2001 found no link
    between changing fat in the diet and heart disease.

    "At a global level the link with cholesterol and heart
    disease is far more tenuous than is generally supposed,"
    says Malcolm Kendrick, a GP from Cheshire who is the most
    active Skeptic in Britain. "For instance, in Russia at the
    moment, heart attack rates are rising dramatically but their
    cholesterol levels are the reverse of what we see in the US
    and the UK. They often have high levels of the so-called
    "good" HDL cholesterol and low levels of the "bad" LDL, but
    they still keel over from heart disease."

    Even in the west the link is pretty thin according to Joel
    Kauffman, a professor at University of the Sciences in
    Philadelphia. A review he did of statin use last year
    pointed out that what does correlate with high cholesterol
    is age, a majorfactor in heart disease. "When you correct
    for age," he concluded "there is almost no correlation
    between high cholesterol and heart disease."

    This challenge comes at a time when the government, the
    medical profession and the pharmaceutical industry are
    united in their approval of cholesterol-reducing drugs.
    Government figures out last week, for instance, show that
    heart attack deaths are declining and part of the credit for
    this is given to statins.

    This month the New England Journal of Medicine is due to
    publish the results of a large trial reporting that the
    heart patients who reduced their cholesterol down as far as
    two, had a 16% drop in their risk of experiencing such
    "vascular events" as heart attacks and strokes. One of the
    cholesterol-reducing drugs, Lipitor, is among the best-
    selling prescription drugs in the world with sales worth
    $16bn (£8.75bn). The message from this trial is likely to be
    that when it comes to cholesterol "you can't go too low".

    So what are the Skeptics basing their apparently highly
    idiosyncratic challenge on? At this point it is worth making
    clear the difference between primary care - your GP
    prescribing statins because he considers you have a raised
    risk of heart disease - and secondary care, which you get
    after a heart attack in hopes of preventing another one.
    Even the Skeptics generally agree that the studies show that
    taking statins after you have obviously got heart disease
    can reduce your chances of a further attack.

    "But the fact that bringing down cholesterol can help some
    male heart patients," says Kendrick "doesn't mean it's going
    to protect otherwise healthy people whose cholesterol is
    over five. Since the average level in the UK is 5.7, that is
    an awful lot of people."

    But what about trials showing that statins reduce the risk
    of heart attacks and strokes by a quarter among healthy
    volunteers? That sounds impressive. But how impressive, say
    the Skeptics, depends on how you work out the percentages.
    Heart attacks among healthy people are quite rare, so the
    actual percentage of people having a heart attack while on
    statins is just 3% compared to 4% on a placebo. That is
    indeed a drop of 25% but it is also a mere 1% fewer heart
    attacks over five years, which is not quite so wonderful. In
    Sweden official advice is to reserve statins largely for
    secondary care.

    If pushed, experts in favour of aggressive cholesterol
    reduction may well admit that the value to women is less
    clear. That is because, although women tend to have higher
    levels through life, they develop heart disease 15 to 20
    years later. An increasing number of doctors are putting post-
    menopausal women on statins to protect their hearts now that
    HRT has been discredited. Is this wise?

    A resounding "no" was the answer from an analysis of five
    statin trials conducted by a team of researchers at the
    University of British Columbia (UBC) in Canada and published
    last year. Stressing that only 28% of the participants were
    women, the team concluded: "The results do not support the
    use of statins by women without heart disease."

    The UBC group also raised new queries about side effects.
    Statins are generally described as safe and well tolerated.
    But the same report concluded that although patients on
    statins had a 1.4% lower rate of heart attacks, this was
    cancelled out by a 1.8% rate of "serious adverse events
    associated with the drug", including cancer. That, they say,
    is almost certainly an underestimate since only two of the
    trials provided details of any serious side effects. The
    researchers said they had asked the drug producers for the
    missing data but received no reply.

    To an outsider what is curious about this debate is that
    both sides are using the same data; much of the disagreement
    is based on how you interpret it. But that is not all that
    is going on. Two recent developments have given a big
    impetus to the Skeptics. The first is the huge surge in the
    popularity of the Atkins diet. So far the results seem to
    show that eating a diet high in fat doesn't automatically
    result in a rise in cholesterol. This strikes at the roots
    of the cholesterol hypothesis," says Kendrick - though the
    jury is still out on the long-term effects of an Atkins-
    style diet and bigger trials are ongoing. Another aspect of
    the Atkins argument is that a diet high in carbohydrates,
    especially refined carbohydrates such as sugar, damages
    arteries in the long run.

    Akey factor in developing heart disease, say the Skeptics,
    is inflammation. This is the defensive reaction produced by
    the body when it feels under attack, the redness that flares
    up round a cut or bruise. An inflamed point on an artery
    makes it more likely that plaque will form.

    In the past two years, two major studies have found that the
    amount of inflammation in your body is a better indicator of
    your heart-attack risk than your cholesterol level.
    Inflammation is measured by something called C-reactive
    protein (CRP). Some claim such findings make the cholesterol
    hypothesis redundant. This could supply an answer to the
    question raised by the Skeptics' challenge: If cholesterol
    reduction isn't that beneficial, why do the drugs reduce the
    number of heart attacks? Probably, say the Skeptics, by
    reducing inflammation.

    The body produces inflammation via a number of complicated
    pathways many of which involve a molecular switch known as
    NF kappaB and recent studies show that statins are pretty
    effective at dimming NF kappaB. However this is what a
    number of other effective heart treatments also seem to do,
    such as aspirin and omega three fatty acids found in fish
    oils, not to mention garlic and vitamin E.

    If this turns out to be what is going on, and trials are
    under way to test the idea, this seems likely to shunt
    cholesterol reduction into a small corner of the overall
    picture of heart disease and allow statins to be marketed as
    "inflammation fighters". Other ways of reducing your C-
    reactive protein level include stopping smoking, losing
    weight and exercising.

    The cholesterol hypothesis is unlikely to be abandoned in a
    hurry, given the weight of financial and political muscle
    behind it. But the Skeptics have raised questions that
    could ultimately have an impact on the way we think about
    heart disease.

    Guardian Unlimited © Guardian Newspapers Limited 2004

  2. (Zee) said:

    The redoutable Guardian!!

    guardian.co.uk0,3858,4895880
    103409,00.html

    Quoted message said:

    Akey factor in developing heart disease, say the Skeptics,
    is inflammation. This is the defensive reaction produced by
    the body when it feels under attack, the redness that
    flares up round a cut or bruise. An inflamed point on an
    artery makes it more likely that plaque will form.

    In the past two years, two major studies have found that
    the amount of inflammation in your body is a better
    indicator of your heart-attack risk than your cholesterol
    level. Inflammation is measured by something called C-
    reactive protein (CRP). Some claim such findings make the
    cholesterol hypothesis redundant. This could supply an
    answer to the question raised by the Skeptics' challenge:
    If cholesterol reduction isn't that beneficial, why do the
    drugs reduce the number of heart attacks? Probably, say the
    Skeptics, by reducing inflammation.

    This is contrary to the other article posted be Zee that
    claims CRP to be a "boondoggle". I guess it shows that even
    with the redoubtable Skeptics, confusion reigns.

    But their notion that statins reduce inflammation has been
    supported by studies.

    L.

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