"Ignoramus5102" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:Tom said:
I am still on low carb, but there is a lot of peer pressure to relax
about my Nazi-like attitude about it. I think that if I relax too much,
I'll
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:go back to eating too much because of hunger.
If you go off LC, and want to control your weight, you must limit how
much you eat.
Yes. I would then have to count calories.
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Quoted message said:But you are right, if I do
ever decide that eating at an increased carb level causes hunger to be
too
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:unpleasant I could always become more strict.
Yes. Experiment with adding carbs from vegs first. Add them slowly.
Otherwise it is too easy to lose control, as others report.
My recent choice has been the inclusion of beans and lentils in limited
amounts because of the higher fiber values. I like to also cut up a carrot
into a 2 to 3 day supply of salad veggies. Basically what ever I'm adding is
balanced by carbs verses nutrient value. I also intend to eat manderine
oranges as my dessert during this holiday season. I'll have to try and limit
what I include because I also want to see if these additions have any affect
on my former problems of shoulder joint pain(minor), and acid reflux.
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Quoted message said:Recently I have included beans occasionally to my list of allowable
foods. Our homemade chili does not look like regular chili, as the
amount of
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:beans is small. It is largely chunks of cut up steak or roast with some
added onions, celery, and green pepper, spices and A1 steak sauce,
tomato
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:sauce. I try to add little amounts of any higher carb item and see if
there
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:is any noticable affect in new recipes.
The amounts that are included still don't satisfy what my friends
would
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:consider a reasonable diet.
Are your friends naturally thin, still fat, or thin because they lost
weight? Unless they are the latter, they will not understand you. I
would not try too hard to satisfy them, and, also, they will respect
you if you stick to your guns.
I am the slimmer than most everyone in my age range(46). These guys have
basically tried all the weightloss diets without success and have basically
concluded that this is there fate. They do understand about calories in and
out and the value of exercise, but find it too hard to stick with any plan.
The few that have tried lo-carb have resumed their former diets and the
weight has come back. There is only one other guy in my age category that
remains successful, actually 2 years longer than me. He only discusses the
diet with me because I am in agreement. His problem is similar to mine. He
will eat more carbs at work, while at home he eats more strict. I can see
why he is doing it this way.
The younger guys I would have thought to be more open about it. But they
are more naturally thin and don't understand about trying to lose weight. Of
course, it's because they are young and don't have those problems yet. I was
just like them at a younger age. If someone would have told me that I would
be 30lbs heavier in 10 years, I would have howled with laughter.
I believe that in another 10 years, these guys will go through the same
thing. Hopefully I will still be at goal weight at that time and can be of
help to them then.
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Quoted message said:It is still to obvious to them that I am eating
lo-carb.
So, you are slim, healthy, lost weight, and eating low carb. Sounds
good to me.
It seems odd to me that on one hand a person could say, "Hey you look
great", and aknowledge the health benefits. Then the next day say that the
style of eating is wrong and be concerned about my long term health. Do they
think I'm trading good health benefits now for worse health later?
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Quoted message said:The problem really, is that I feel I am eating properly, but
everyone else thinks that their high carb diet is the best.
Maybe it is the best, for them.
It was for me, until I got fat.
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Quoted message said:Of course, I am one of the slimmest among them but that doesn't
matter. I think that the only way to show them is to continue as
long as there are no side affects, and show them that my weight is
stable over a period of a few years. I can not blame anyone who is
skeptical as there is a lot of conflicting data on just about
anything you can think of. I myself am like that as well. I like to
see proof rather than follow blindly.
I agree here.
Quoted message said:So far the lo-carb style of eating has shown me that lots of people
can
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:be led to believe whatever is spoonfed to them. The fact that high carb
has
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:been touted for so long is evidence of that. Any disagreement with what
they
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:have been taught can cause anger rather than curiosity.
That's normal.
Quoted message said:I am a little
different. If someone can provide good evidence for a case, I am more
inclined to at least hear the story and try and look up facts to see if
it
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:is plausible. Some of the people that I have talked to about lo-carb can
only repeat the bad things they have heard about it. When asked why they
think pastas, white bread, rice, sugar, and potatoes are necessary and
what
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:vitamins and nutrients they get out of them, they can't think of a good
reason. When I try to explain about their affect on blood sugar and
insulin
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:spikes, it falls on deaf ears. Most people only rely on what is heard in
the
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:news media, or tend to think the food pyramid is the ultimate guide.
Sorry,
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:I've been rambling much longer than I thought. I'll close it off here.
I think that after a while, your friends may learn something from you.
Other than peer pressure to conform, I have no problems at all with the
diet. Your right. They can learn from me, but I will have to set an example
and wait a few years. They have agreed that all the sugar they were eating
was not good. I think as they gain weight in the future, they will remember
my experiences. Talk is cheap. It's results that everyone wants to see.
Tom
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