The constant need for roadies to discuss wind resistance

[pabergel]

Can we finally acknowledge that the majority of roadies obsessing over wind resistance are simply trying to compensate for their lack of actual power output? It seems like every other post on this forum is about the latest and greatest aerodynamic wheelset or frame design, yet when you look at the average riders Strava times, theyre still struggling to break 20mph on a flat course. Meanwhile, the pros are out there crushing it on bikes that are barely more aerodynamic than whats available to the general public. Is it really the wind resistance thats holding you back, or is it just a convenient excuse for not putting in the time and effort to actually get faster? And another thing, if wind resistance is such a huge concern, why do so many riders still insist on running those ridiculous-looking aero helmets that are only beneficial at speeds of 25mph or higher? Are you really expecting to be riding that fast, or is it just a fashion statement? And whats with the obsession over aero wheels? Do you really think that saving 10-20 watts is going to make a significant difference in your overall performance, or is it just a way to justify spending an extra thousand dollars on a set of wheels that look cool but dont actually provide any real-world benefits? Its time to stop focusing on gimmicks and start focusing on what really matters: putting in the work and getting faster.

 

[AlanFD]

Sure, let's debunk the wind resistance myth. It's true that aerodynamics can play a role in performance, but it's not the be-all and end-all. The pros may have slightly more aerodynamic bikes, but the real difference lies in their power output and training. As for aero helmets, yes, they do have benefits at high speeds, but let's be real, how many of us are consistently riding at 25mph or above? And those "ridiculous-looking" helmets? They're not just for show, they serve a purpose.

Now, about those aero wheels, sure, they might save you 10-20 watts, but is that really going to make a significant difference in your overall performance? Probably not. And let's not forget the hefty price tag that comes with them. It's easy to get caught up in the latest and greatest gear, but at the end of the day, it's your power output and training that will make the biggest difference.

So, before you spend a thousand dollars on a set of aero wheels or a fancy helmet, consider investing in a power meter or hiring a coach. Put in the work, focus on your power output and training, and you'll see real results. Stop making excuses and start putting in the effort to get faster.

 

[joefriday]

Ah, the age-old debate: is it the bike or the rider that's holding them back? While it's true that some roadies might be overemphasizing wind resistance to mask their power output shortcomings, let's not forget that aero gains can make a meaningful difference, especially in longer rides. After all, a more aerodynamic bike isn't just for breaking speed records; it's also about reducing fatigue, which ultimately leads to better performance. So, before dismissing the importance of wind resistance, let's consider the whole equation: aerodynamics + power output = a faster, more efficient ride.

 

[dcooper123]

:raised\_hands: All right, let's dive into this. While I agree that power output is crucial, I can't help but wonder if the obsession with aerodynamics is entirely misplaced. Sure, the pros are faster, but they're also riding significantly more miles than most amateurs.

What about the role of technique and bike handling? A rider with better control can maintain speed in windy conditions, making aerodynamics less critical. And let's not forget about the mental aspect - if a rider believes that their aero gear makes them faster, it could boost their confidence and performance.

As for those aero helmets, I've seen riders wearing them in group rides, where average speeds are far below 25mph. Maybe they're just optimistic about their pace, or perhaps they're using the helmet for the placebo effect.

Lastly, aero wheels can make a difference, especially in hilly terrain or during sprints. While the savings might not be dramatic, they can still provide a competitive edge. Instead of dismissing these components as gimmicks, we should consider the holistic approach to cycling performance.

 

[ForFlynLow]

While it's true that aerodynamics can be overemphasized, dismissing it altogether is unwise. Yes, power output matters, but so does reducing drag. Aero helmets and wheels do have real-world benefits, just not at lower speeds. The key is to find the right balance between power and aerodynamics, tailored to your specific riding style and goals. It's not about gimmicks, but smart investments.

 

[dcooper123]

Aero stuff, sure, it helps. But c'mon, let's be real. You don't need a pro's budget to get faster. I've seen folks obsess over aerodynamics, but sometimes they forget the basics. Ever heard of bike handling or technique? I mean, what's the point of being slippery if you can't stay on the bike in windy conditions?

And yeah, the placebo effect is real. If you think that aero lid makes you faster, maybe it does. But don't wear it just for the heck of it on group rides when you're cruising at 15mph. That's just silly.

Now, aero wheels can be useful, especially in hilly terrain or sprints. But, let's not act like those marginal gains are gonna turn you into a superhero. It's not a magic bullet, y'know?

The real secret? Balance. Find the sweet spot between power and aerodynamics, tailored to your style and goals. It's not about gimmicks or throwing money at the problem. It's about riding smart. So, before you get lost in the rabbit hole of aerodynamics, make sure your fundamentals are solid.

 

[joefriday]

Totally with you on the balance thing. Aero stuff ain't everything. Remember that dude who couldn't corner for nuts despite his aero gear? All show, no go.

And yep, folks can get carried away with the whole aerodynamics obsession. Forgets that handling skills and raw power matter too. I mean, what's the use of cutting through the wind if you can't handle your bike in windy conditions?

As for placebo effect, it's real alright. But don't rely on it solely. You need substance, not just shiny gear. Aero wheels can help, but they won't magically transform you into a superhero. It's all about finding your sweet spot between power and aerodynamics.

So before you dive headfirst into the aerodynamics rabbit hole, make sure your basics are solid. Power, handling, technique - they're non-negotiables.

 

[AlanFD]

Y'know, you're spot on. Aero stuff ain't everything. Sure, it can help, but if your power and handling skills suck, you're not gonna get far. And don't forget, placebo effect can only take you so far. Invest in your real abilities, not just shiny gear. Basics first, then aerodynamics.

 

[joefriday]

Couldn't agree more, power and handling trump aero any day. Aero's like the cherry on top, but if you're wobbly on that bike, you're going nowhere. And yeah, placebo effect can only get you so far. Remember, it's you, the rider, who makes the real difference. So, focus on building your skills and strength. Shiny gear is just that, shiny. It won't pedal for you. Basics first, then aerodynamics. That's the ticket.

 

[pabergel]

Oh, sure, let’s keep pretending those swoopy frames and fancy wheels are going to magically transform you into a Tour de France contender. Makes total sense. I mean, who needs to actually train hard when you can just slap on a $2,000 wheelset and call it a day? And the aero helmets? Wow, what a bold move wearing that in a weekend group ride at 18mph. It's like showing up to a BBQ in a tux—totally necessary, right?

It’s hilarious how everyone's out here chasing the wind resistance ghost while they can’t even hold a line without wobbling all over the place. The basics of bike handling and strength are like the “please” and “thank you” of cycling, but nah, let’s skip that and obsess over gear that won't pedal for you. Seriously, if you spent as much time on your fitness as you do obsessing over that shiny new frame, maybe you’d break 20mph without sweating bullets. Just saying.