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The "black salve"

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  1. wishtv.comstory.asp

    This kind of product is among the many used in desperation
    by those who choose to retain their cancers and treat it
    with the "alternatives". When ulceration of the cancer
    inevitably ensues the patient can temporarily maintain the
    belief that the cancer is being extruded from the body.

    Alt.med has a habit of following on behind and picking up
    all the leavings of scientific medicine. Escharotics
    (tissue destroying agents) such as this are among the most
    retro and ridiculous of these. Various such ointments were
    tried endlessly on cancers before the advent of surgery
    that could completely remove cancers with an adequate
    margin of normal tissue.

    It doesn't seem to be generally known that an inch or even
    two clearance of apparently normal tissue is needed to avoid
    recurrence of some cancers, because of possible unseen
    lymphatic or other vascular extensions or other
    inconspicuous local spread.

    A cancer operation is thus never a matter of just cutting
    out anything that looks like cancer. The surgeon doesn't
    want to see any exposed cancer at all. He/she uses visual
    clues, feel, and sometimes a little guess work and on-the-spot-
    tissue examination to determine the extent of the operation.
    In some instances, such as bowel cancer, the need to remove
    possibly involved lymph nodes determines the amount of
    normal organ removed (because lymphatic drainage follows the
    arterial supply).

    Escharotics would certainly occasionally work for
    superficial skin cancers, as would also nitric acid or
    caustic soda, but the problem is getting the right amount of
    tissue destruction.

    Peter Moran.

  2. Damn! you are sick!
    "Peter Moran" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    wishtv.comstory.asp

    This kind of product is among the many used in desperation
    by those who choose to retain their cancers and treat it
    with the "alternatives". When ulceration of the cancer
    inevitably ensues the patient can temporarily maintain the
    belief that the cancer is being extruded from the body.

    Alt.med has a habit of following on behind and picking up
    all the leavings of scientific medicine. Escharotics
    (tissue destroying agents) such as


    this

    Quoted message said:

    are among the most retro and ridiculous of these. Various
    such ointments were tried endlessly on cancers before the
    advent of surgery that could completely remove cancers
    with an adequate margin of normal tissue.

    It doesn't seem to be generally known that an inch or even
    two clearance


    of

    Quoted message said:

    apparently normal tissue is needed to avoid recurrence
    of some cancers, because of possible unseen lymphatic
    or other vascular extensions or other inconspicuous
    local spread.

    A cancer operation is thus never a matter of just cutting
    out anything


    that

    Quoted message said:

    looks like cancer. The surgeon doesn't want to see any
    exposed cancer at all. He/she uses visual clues, feel, and
    sometimes a little guess work and on-the-spot-tissue
    examination to determine the extent of the operation.


    In

    Quoted message said:

    some instances, such as bowel cancer, the need to remove
    possibly involved lymph nodes determines the amount of
    normal organ removed (because


    lymphatic

    Quoted message said:

    drainage follows the arterial supply).

    Escharotics would certainly occasionally work for
    superficial skin


    cancers,

    Quoted message said:

    as would also nitric acid or caustic soda, but the problem
    is getting the right amount of tissue destruction.

    Peter Moran.

  3. Quoted message said:

    From: "Peter Moran" [email hidden]

    Quoted message said:

    Subject: The "black salve"

    Considerating Peter Moran is an organized medicine
    member who puts down all alternative, I suggest one do
    thier own research.

    tinyurl.com2v5zv

    Jan

  4. According to The Lafayette (LA) Daily Advertiser issue of
    May 28, 2004, Gregory James Caton, 48, of Lake Charles, LA,
    pleaded "guilty" to fraud charges the previous week in
    Federal Court on the sale by his Alpha Omega Labs of those
    two "alternative" products (one being Casema Tonic
    III) & faces up to 8 years in prison & a $500,000 fine.

    Since he started selling both over the internet in 1999, his
    company had close to a million dollars in sales.

    I see Vermont Country Store, a mail order company (& stand-
    alone retail store) I sometimes purchase from, sells the
    "black salve", but only as a "drawing compound" & not as a
    skin cancer "cure".

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