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Test for synthetic testosterone accurate

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  1. http://www.islandpacket.com/24hour/sports/story/3342248p-12306550c.html

  2. "Joe King" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    http://www.islandpacket.com/24hour/sports/story/3342248p-12306550c.html

    Yeah, now if only he would have mentioned that the percentage of C13 in
    natural testosterone and that in synthetic testosterone overlaps. While you
    can detect the specific ratios of C12 to C13 you cannot determine whether it
    is natural or synthetic.

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    Kunich ('cyclintom@yahoo. com') said:

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    http://www.islandpacket.com/24hour/sports/story/3342248p-12306550c.html

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    Yeah, now if only he would have mentioned that the percentage of C13 in
    natural testosterone and that in synthetic testosterone overlaps. While
    you can detect the specific ratios of C12 to C13 you cannot determine
    whether it is natural or synthetic.

    But you can compare it with the ratios of C12/C13 in other hormones taken
    from the same person in the same sample. Which is what the test does.

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    Kunich ('cyclintom@yahoo. com') said:

    "Joe King" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    http://www.islandpacket.com/24hour/sports/story/3342248p-12306550c.html

    Quoted message said:


    Yeah, now if only he would have mentioned that the percentage of C13 in
    natural testosterone and that in synthetic testosterone overlaps. While
    you can detect the specific ratios of C12 to C13 you cannot determine
    whether it is natural or synthetic.

    But you can compare it with the ratios of C12/C13 in other hormones taken
    from the same person in the same sample. Which is what the test does.

    Not if they have different rates of production in the body. For instance,
    what if Floyd had a steak the night before? His Cholesterol would almost
    immediately have a different ratio since it is almost instant whereas the
    testosterone is a more complex equation and the change in ratios would occur
    at a different rate.

    Anyone notice how the UCI was willing to bleed out information negative to
    Landis but they don't seem to be supplying any REAL information.

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