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Tent (Dis) Recommendations?

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  1. We've just got back from a 3 week summer alpine vacation to
    Austria/Germany/Switzerland and as you've probably gathered from the
    news it's not been the driest or best of alpine seasons.

    Although, with some regular repairs and maintenance needed, it kept us
    warm and dry when most other campers were regularly drying out sleeping
    bags and clothes, our more than 10 years old Quasar is nearing
    retirement age.

    This year we had yet another section of pole snap (this has been a
    regular occurrence throughout its life), but also the zips are now
    failing, the groundsheet is wearing thin and regularly needs patching,
    and the flysheet is so UV damaged that it easily tears and is also
    patched and duct taped in several places!

    So I'm thinking of what to replace it with?

    The Quasar ETC (extended tent canopy) is not our only tent. We also have
    a Macpac Stellar (which we bought and used on a tour of New Zealand) and
    a Hilleberg Nallo 2 GT, which both give us options for lightweight
    camping under most conditions. My wife also has a Hilleberg Akto which
    she bought for her solo backpacking trips. However the Quasar ETC, with
    its very stable geodesic structure and large covered canopy, was our
    tent of choice when camping in winter and under harsh conditions, or for
    use as a large 'basecamp tent' for extended vacations.

    So I'm after another all-season all-weather geodesic, with plenty of
    room for two and all their gear, plus sufficient space to cook in
    comfort under the canopy in harsh weather. I'm also happy to pay a
    premium for good design features and build quality.

    Terra Nova still sell an updated version of the Quasar ETC, and TNF, ME,
    and Mountain Hardware both market tents of a similar design to the
    standard Quasar (ie not ETC). However one feature I disliked about the
    Quasar was that you had to erect the inner first and then put on the
    outer. This means it is difficult to keep the inner dry when erecting or
    taking down the tent in wet weather. The other off-putting experience
    with our Quasar has been the poles (I know several others who have
    experienced similar problems to ours).

    Looking at the Hilleberg website I see that the 'Tarra' (slightly
    smaller than our ETC) and the 'Saivo' (slightly bigger) would also seem
    to fit our requirements and also offer the possibility of separating
    inner from outer when tacking down in wet weather. I'm so far very
    impressed with the design and construction of our Nallo and our Akto.

    Does anyone have any recommendations or disrecommendations for these or
    other similar models of tent?

    Cheers,

    Mike
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  2. Mike Clark said:

    Looking at the Hilleberg website I see that the 'Tarra' (slightly
    smaller than our ETC) and the 'Saivo' (slightly bigger) would also seem
    to fit our requirements and also offer the possibility of separating
    inner from outer when tacking down in wet weather.

    I have a Tarra, and have been most impressed. The porches are actually
    a decent size to start with so you can cook in them, and though an
    extended porch isn't an option you can "unextend" the inner if you want
    to give you a bit more cooking space (I've never actually felt the need
    to do this, but it is possible).

    No need to separate inner from outer taking down, as it all comes down
    (and all goes up) in one go. The poles are all the same length and go
    in short sleeves to start with, followed by clips, so there's very
    little fiddling with pole threading during setup and it's substantially
    easier to put up than a Quasar.

    You know how good Hilleberg's quality is from your other tents.

    Things I'd change about it... It's slightly noisier than a Quasar in a
    real blow (by which I mean Force 8+. Not unstable, just a bit noisier),
    but I think that's mainly more unsupported fabric due to much larger
    porches. The roofs just behind the porches are reasonably flat so water
    pools a little: not enough to cause real problems, but it looks like the
    newer Saivo has more of a humped middle to get over that. Features not
    Bugs though, as that in turn means a little less headroom at the ends,
    so You Choose, You Lose...

    The Saivo is bigger but heavier. The Tarra /is/ big enough for two folk
    with a load of [censored] along, and it should stand up to just about
    anything. The only thing I've seen I might want to swap it for is a
    Saivo, but then it usually travels by boat where weight is a non issue.
    Everybody that looks closely seems to be quite covetous!

    They are both frightfully expensive, but in each case you get what you
    pay for. There's a place in Stockport called Alpenstock that seems to
    do very good prices on Hillebergs, should find them with a Google.

    Pete.
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  3. I had a 2 yr old Decathlon, Quechya, Bionnosay T2+
    this yr in the Pyrenees for my brother.

    It is a full witner, has snow valances, tent. It's superb and
    well made. But the coloured alu poles kept snapping this yr.

    The uncoloured one was fine.

    Decathlon guy in Tarascon was apologetic and gave me
    non-dyed poles free of charge without question.

    Nick

  4. In article <[email hidden]>, Peter Clinch
    <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:

    There's a place in Stockport called Alpenstock that seems to do very
    good prices on Hillebergs, should find them with a Google.

    I got my Spacepacker from them.

    http://www.alpenstock.co.uk/tents.htm

    Website not up to much but they are very knowledgeable, helpful and
    friendly.

    It is not far from the Peak District if you are up this way and want to
    pop over to see a tent in the flesh. They are very happy to put them up
    for you in the shop if you want a proper look. They stock a lot but it
    is best to ring them and check about specific models and I am sure they
    will happily advise you over the telephone to help your choice.

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    Dominic Sexton

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