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  1. Thank God for very good doctors. Thank God for very good nurses. Thank God for
    very good hospitals. Thank God for modern technoology.

    This was quite a story. Hope you got to watch it.

    Jan

    http://www.msnbc.com/news/958136.asp?0sl=-11&cp1=1

    Telling Jane Doe’s story

    ‘Dateline NBC’ producer shares emotional journey from 9-11

    By Bob Gilmartin
    REPORTER'S NOTEBOOK
    NBC NEWS

    Aug. 31 — On September 11, I found myself at NYU Downtown Hospital, the
    hospital closest to Ground Zero. The hospital had given me access inside the
    Intensive Care Unit where I documented with a handheld camera, the incredible
    efforts of the hospital staff to save those closest to death. Little did I know
    that Debbie Mardenfeld, a.k.a. “Jane Doe #1,” was in one of those rooms,
    the curtain drawn, her life hanging in the balance.

      I FIRST MET DEBBIE three days later when I stopped by
    the hospital to see if there were any updates. The update was that some of the
    patients in the unit had died, but others including this beautiful, young
    Manhattan resident had lived.
           Her story was indeed incredible as doctors relayed it to me. She was
    the hospital’s first Jane Doe (identity unknown) patient. Doctors told me
    Debbie’s legs had been rebuilt after nearly being severed during the attacks.
    When they found out her identity, doctors learned she was a 30-year-old
    American Express employee engaged to be married.
           During emergency surgery, one doctor had argued for a double
    amputation. Orthopedic surgeon Dr. Nelson Botwinick argued for more time to
    save her legs. With the success of their 12-hour surgery, doctors hoped Debbie
    would be able to dance at her own wedding. Out of the madness of September 11,
    it was a story almost too good to be true. But as time went on, we would
    realize that it would not have a simple, fairytale ending.

    Resources related to Debbie's story

    •  NYU Downtown Hospital
    •  NYU School of Medicine
    •  NYU Medical Center
    •  Rusk Institute of Rehabilitation Medicine
    •  September 11 Victim Compensation Fund of 2001
    •  Anniversary Guide for September 11, 2003
    •  Trail Lawyers Car: Provides free legal help to 9-11 survivors
    •  Debbie's attorney, Guy Smiley

           Doctors asked me if I wanted to interview Debbie. Of course, I said.
    Debbie was obviously on pain killers when we interviewed her and months later,
    Debbie didn’t remember our first meeting other than the story which she later
    saw on tape. In her room, she was lying on a special bed filled with a sand
    interior. The bed would help heal the horrific wounds to her backside. Besides
    the trauma to her legs, the flesh on her backside from her waist to just above
    her knees had been torn off by an airplane engine rotor that fell from the
    tower.
           The doctors introduced us. I was talking to her while holding my
    handheld camera. Debbie was smiling and holding on to her favorite stuffed
    animal. Speaking in a low, gravely voice, she spoke of love, her love for the
    doctors who saved her life and her love for her fiancé, Greg St. John who was
    so relieved to know she had survived. She was obviously someone who loved life,
    and said she felt blessed having survived her near fatal injuries. It was easy
    to tell Debbie spoke easily when it came to her emotions.
           As I interviewed her, there were times when I had to choke back my
    emotions. Debbie was just one of a thousand stories of loss that day. Yet,
    doctors gave her back her life and her legs. I could feel everyone, including
    myself, investing our own emotions in her and her story. If she could survive,
    maybe we all could.
           
           
    A SOURCE OF HOPE
           There was not much hope circulating during the days that followed
    September 11. If Debbie’s story could have a happy ending, maybe there could
    be more happy endings for the rest of us, who felt our world had collapsed
    along with the Towers. As Tom Brokaw said after our first story aired on Sept.
    16, “We all needed that story right now.”
           [On a personal note, just a few weeks before September 11, my wife,
    Charmian Gilmartin (also a Dateline producer) and I had learned we would have a
    baby. What kind of world would we be bringing him into. Maybe Debbie proved the
    point that life can, and should go on.]

           I left Debbie in her I.C.U. bed that afternoon, and wouldn’t see
    her again for eight months. As I would soon learn, those eight months would be
    hell for her. Early optimism for a quick recovery and release were crushed by
    infections, surgeries and depression. Every time I asked if I could see Debbie
    or update her story, the answer from the hospital was no. Neither she nor her
    fiancé could deal with that. The first priority for them was for Debbie to get
    better.
           I finally saw her just before my son was born in April. She had been
    transferred to Rusk Rehabilitation Center. Debbie had not been out of a bed
    since the day she went to work on the day of the attacks.
           She agreed to allow us back into her life, to follow her recovery,
    but was concerned with how it would all work out. Debbie, who never holds back,
    told us there would be times when she’d tell us to get lost, times when
    she’d say don’t come, but she bravely said let’s see, give it a try.
    It’s difficult watching someone you like going through so much pain. That was
    what our first few months together were like. You would privately cheer when
    she did something well and wince when she let out a blood curdling yell.
           Because I couldn’t go everyday, I asked Dateline’s Rayner
    Ramirez to help out with the shooting. Debbie, didn’t take too easily to new
    people during those difficult times, and said she had concerns. Soon, however,
    they became best of friends, and teamed up against me, the old guy.
           
           
    ‘MY CHEERLEADERS’
           Something very profound happened during this time. Doctors and
    nurses privately told us that once we taping Debbie, it seemed to have an
    effect on her rehabilitation. They said they had seen a remarkable difference
    in her. It’s not that she was performing for the camera. No one in that
    amount of pain would even think of it. But doctors said she was pushing herself
    more than ever.

           Months later, Debbie confirmed that we had meant a lot to her
    recovery. “My cheerleaders,” she called us. In more than 25 years in the
    business, that comment meant more to me than any award, or any compliment a
    boss had ever paid.
           June 11, nine months after the attacks, was an incredible day. That
    was the day Debbie stood for the first time on her broken, but mending legs.
           It’s hard to shoot with a camera and choke back tears at the same
    time, but that’s what it was like that day. Debbie broke down in gratitude to
    her therapist, Jessica Heaney. All the rest of us broke down in gratitude that
    perhaps we had witnessed a breakthrough and that she would literally take the
    next step and walk.
           Two weeks later was another magical day. We saw Debbie make one
    halting movement of a leg that was nearly amputated. She had taken a step. She
    had pushed one foot forward, and shortly after that she would push her feet
    three steps more. It was in her blood, it seemed, for Debbie to constantly push
    herself. Pushing, however, had its consequences, like the day we saw blood on
    the floor underneath her. It was coming from her still open wounds.
           
           
    THE OTHER VICTIM
           Soon, progress came at a lightning speed: 10, 20, 50 steps at a
    time. During the summer months, there would be a wheelchair ride outside the
    hospital, and finally a date with her fiancé Greg for a few hours outside the
    hospital.

           Greg, the quiet athlete, was always there for her. The first thing
    people would ask me while I was doing my update would be: “The boyfriend,
    he’s still with her?” Yes, I would say, and they would say, “Wow, what a
    guy!”
           It was not always that simple, however. During times when I talked
    to Greg privately, I began to learn the pain he was in, too. Greg would never
    complain, but he would remind me privately in his own practical way that we
    shouldn’t feel the battle had been won.
           Physically and emotionally, he said, Debbie had a long way to go. He
    might have been the only one to really know just how far. Once the camera went
    away, and once the doctors and nurses would leave, it would be just him and and
    Debbie talking. She had so many doubts, so many concerns and was still in so
    much pain.
           Greg is a serious racing bike rider. One of those guys you see in
    Central Park anonymously whizzing by in his helmet and lycra pants. He’s an
    urban warrior who speaks little but you just know there’s a lot going on in
    his brain (a scientist’s brain, no less). Greg does not wear his emotions on
    his sleeve. When we finally sat down with him for an on-camera interview, it
    turned out to be the most painful and emotional one we did for Debbie’s
    story. Greg, a stoic, broke down after one or two questions. From the
    beginning, he was never the one who wanted to do news coverage, feeling it was
    more of a distraction to Debbie’s recovery.
           His emotions were so raw, that for a moment, our correspondent, Sara
    James, had a hard time keeping her own emotions in check as she asked him about
    the morning of September 11, when Debbie left for work. The interview felt like
    it was the first time Greg had been able to open up and talk about what he had
    been through.
           
           
    A NEW CHAPTER
           The day of Debbie’s release from the hospital was such a happy
    day, and again such a tear-jerker for everyone as well. To see her walk out of
    the hospital using a just a cane and and an arm on Greg for support was
    wonderful.
           I said to her in the ambulance van that was taking her home,
    “it’s been an amazing journey.” Her response, “glad you could be a part
    of it.”
           And so was I. Debbie’s story was by far one of the most touching I
    had ever experienced. In many ways, her story was a place where I tried to
    invest my own hopes and dreams for a better future. Her story was good for
    those of us who needed something positive to latch on to, but at times that
    turned out to be a bad thing for Debbie as well.

           It turns out, too many of us had made her a poster child of hope for
    September 11 survivors. We wanted only the best for her, and that meant during
    those early days, tons of mail and gifts from well-wishers who had seen our
    first story. There were offers of help with her wedding plans, free vacations,
    offers to come to her room and pray with her. It was too much for her and Greg
    to deal with when all they could concentrate on was her survival. However,
    Debbie says one gift she couldn’t turn down was a promise from Vera [censored] to
    do her wedding gown and bridal dresses for free.
           Right now what Debbie and Greg say they need most is a chance to
    regain their lives as much as they can, and to be left alone. She told us that
    besides dancing at her wedding, the nicest feeling she could have would be to
    walk down the street, window shop and no one would know what had happened to
    her. She said, “I think I could be satisfied, honestly, blending into the
    crowd of Manhattan.”
           Debbie just wants to go back to being another anonymous, hip New
    Yorker, with a life at home that includes Greg, a family and their dreams.
           It has been a remarkable journey for me, having met and lived with
    Debbie’s story for the last two years. Now it’s time to let her heal and be
    left alone. Hopefully she knows the “cheerleaders,” Rayner, Sara and I will
    always be there for her.
           I’m sure all of us look forward to hearing that the wedding day is
    on, and that perhaps we would have the honor of witnessing that extraordinary
    moment when Debbie Mardenfeld and Greg St. John dance their first dance
    together, and become just another young, happily married couple.
           
           Bob Gilmartin is a producer at “Dateline NBC.”

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    "Jan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Thank God for very good doctors. Thank God for very good nurses. Thank God


    for

    Quoted message said:

    very good hospitals. Thank God for modern technoology.

    This was quite a story. Hope you got to watch it.

    Jan

    Quite an indictment of evil organized medicine, wasn't it?

    --Rich

  3. Jan said:

    Thank God

    HA! Do not abuse the name of GOD, you mafia advertizing agency! Jan Drew
    mixes up facts with naturopath mafia lies to make peole buy the mafia
    stuff.

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    "Mark Probert" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    [email hidden] (Jan) wrote in message


    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Thank God for very good doctors. Thank God for very good nurses. Thank


    God for

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    very good hospitals. Thank God for modern technoology.

    This was quite a story. Hope you got to watch it.

    Jan

    http://www.msnbc.com/news/958136.asp?0sl=-11&cp1=1

    Testimony to the benefits of Evil Organized Medicine.

    Not one drop Altie-[censored].

    No, there was no altie spin to the story, but when I watched it, it stirred
    a kind of resentment in me because of its gushing implication that this all
    was special and unusual. Jan's "thank God" list gave me the same twinge.
    Trauma happens every day, and horribly injured people are provided
    life-saving compassionate care by medical professionals on a routine basis.
    These doctors and nurses did not do something exceptional because the victim
    was injured by terrorists. They did their jobs, and as usual, did them well.
    They are not some exceptional "very good" doctors, nurses, and hospitals,
    different in some way from the rest of us who are, instead, "evil organized
    medicine." Despite the bashing we get in this newsgroup, we in
    'conventional' healthcare do very well with trauma. Statistics show that if
    you get to the ER alive, you have an excellent chance of being kept alive,
    even if the cause of your injuries was not a media event that stirred the
    emotions of a nation.

  5. "Rich Shewmaker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

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    "Mark Probert" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] (Jan) wrote in message


    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Thank God for very good doctors. Thank God for very good nurses. Thank


    God for

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    very good hospitals. Thank God for modern technoology.

    This was quite a story. Hope you got to watch it.

    Jan

    http://www.msnbc.com/news/958136.asp?0sl=-11&cp1=1

    Testimony to the benefits of Evil Organized Medicine.

    Not one drop Altie-[censored].

    No, there was no altie spin to the story, but when I watched it, it stirred
    a kind of resentment in me because of its gushing implication that this all
    was special and unusual. Jan's "thank God" list gave me the same twinge.
    Trauma happens every day, and horribly injured people are provided
    life-saving compassionate care by medical professionals on a routine basis.
    These doctors and nurses did not do something exceptional because the victim
    was injured by terrorists. They did their jobs, and as usual, did them well.
    They are not some exceptional "very good" doctors, nurses, and hospitals,
    different in some way from the rest of us who are, instead, "evil organized
    medicine." Despite the bashing we get in this newsgroup, we in
    'conventional' healthcare do very well with trauma. Statistics show that if
    you get to the ER alive, you have an excellent chance of being kept alive,
    even if the cause of your injuries was not a media event that stirred the
    emotions of a nation.

    I have no doubt that being at NYU Downtown was a big help. They rotate
    staff with NYU Medical Center, which is a major teaching hospital
    which includes a school of amalgamist dentistry.

    I have a friend who is on the orthopedic staff, and, if he is, as he
    claims, "average" then their standards have got to be very high for
    staff.

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