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Tony Raven
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John Hearns wrote on 15/10/2006 19:49 +0100:
> Class, discuss.
>
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/main.jhtml?xml=/motoring/2006/10/14/mflights114.xml
>
Google is your friend
http://makeashorterlink.com/?A220219FD
--
Tony
"Anyone who conducts an argument by appealing to authority is not using
his intelligence; he is just using his memory."
- Leonardo da Vinci
> Class, discuss.
>
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/main.jhtml?xml=/motoring/2006/10/14/mflights114.xml
>
Google is your friend
http://makeashorterlink.com/?A220219FD
--
Tony
"Anyone who conducts an argument by appealing to authority is not using
his intelligence; he is just using his memory."
- Leonardo da Vinci
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Paul Boyd
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On 15/10/2006 20:22, Tony Raven said,
> Google is your friend
> http://makeashorterlink.com/?A220219FD
tinurl is even better:
http://tinyurl.co.uk/hnct goes straight to the page rather than via a
re-direction page.
--
Paul Boyd
http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/
> Google is your friend
> http://makeashorterlink.com/?A220219FD
tinurl is even better:
http://tinyurl.co.uk/hnct goes straight to the page rather than via a
re-direction page.
--
Paul Boyd
http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/
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Tony Raven
Guest
Paul Boyd wrote on 15/10/2006 20:35 +0100:
> On 15/10/2006 20:22, Tony Raven said,
>
>> Google is your friend
>> http://makeashorterlink.com/?A220219FD
>
> tinurl is even better:
>
> http://tinyurl.co.uk/hnct goes straight to the page rather than via a
> re-direction page.
>
Which is why it's not better. You never know where a tinyurl is going
to take you to. Makeashorter link tells you and gives you time to change
your mind before taking you there.
--
Tony
"Anyone who conducts an argument by appealing to authority is not using
his intelligence; he is just using his memory."
- Leonardo da Vinci
> On 15/10/2006 20:22, Tony Raven said,
>
>> Google is your friend
>> http://makeashorterlink.com/?A220219FD
>
> tinurl is even better:
>
> http://tinyurl.co.uk/hnct goes straight to the page rather than via a
> re-direction page.
>
Which is why it's not better. You never know where a tinyurl is going
to take you to. Makeashorter link tells you and gives you time to change
your mind before taking you there.
--
Tony
"Anyone who conducts an argument by appealing to authority is not using
his intelligence; he is just using his memory."
- Leonardo da Vinci
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Tom Crispin
Guest
On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 20:35:15 +0100, Paul Boyd <[email protected]> wrote:
>On 15/10/2006 20:22, Tony Raven said,
>
>> Google is your friend
>> http://makeashorterlink.com/?A220219FD
>
>tinurl is even better:
>
>http://tinyurl.co.uk/hnct goes straight to the page rather than via a
>re-direction page.
http://qurl.com/c4myy is shorter.
>On 15/10/2006 20:22, Tony Raven said,
>
>> Google is your friend
>> http://makeashorterlink.com/?A220219FD
>
>tinurl is even better:
>
>http://tinyurl.co.uk/hnct goes straight to the page rather than via a
>re-direction page.
http://qurl.com/c4myy is shorter.
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Ambrose Nankivell
Guest
John Hearns wrote:
> Class, discuss.
>
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/main.jhtml?xml=/motoring/2006/10/14/mflights114.xml
Decluttering has reduced pedestrian injuries in Kensington High Street
because it's increased the amount of space for pedestrians, maybe? And this
result is not something that's generally applicable?
That's my hypothesis. I'm not sure why motoring journalists are so fond of
reducing street furniture, but I have my suspicions that it's to do with
increasing their ability to behave as selfishly as they want.
There's my controversial opinions on it.
Now for the heated debate.
A
> Class, discuss.
>
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/main.jhtml?xml=/motoring/2006/10/14/mflights114.xml
Decluttering has reduced pedestrian injuries in Kensington High Street
because it's increased the amount of space for pedestrians, maybe? And this
result is not something that's generally applicable?
That's my hypothesis. I'm not sure why motoring journalists are so fond of
reducing street furniture, but I have my suspicions that it's to do with
increasing their ability to behave as selfishly as they want.
There's my controversial opinions on it.
Now for the heated debate.
A
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Tony Raven
Guest
Ambrose Nankivell wrote on 15/10/2006 20:49 +0100:
> John Hearns wrote:
>> Class, discuss.
>>
>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/main.jhtml?xml=/motoring/2006/10/14/mflights114.xml
>>
>
> Decluttering has reduced pedestrian injuries in Kensington High
> Street because it's increased the amount of space for pedestrians,
> maybe? And this result is not something that's generally applicable?
>
> That's my hypothesis. I'm not sure why motoring journalists are so
> fond of reducing street furniture, but I have my suspicions that it's
> to do with increasing their ability to behave as selfishly as they
> want.
>
> There's my controversial opinions on it.
>
> Now for the heated debate.
>
The Dutch experience is quite the opposite.
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/politics/story/0,6903,746877,00.html
--
Tony
"Anyone who conducts an argument by appealing to authority is not using
his intelligence; he is just using his memory."
- Leonardo da Vinci
> John Hearns wrote:
>> Class, discuss.
>>
>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/main.jhtml?xml=/motoring/2006/10/14/mflights114.xml
>>
>
> Decluttering has reduced pedestrian injuries in Kensington High
> Street because it's increased the amount of space for pedestrians,
> maybe? And this result is not something that's generally applicable?
>
> That's my hypothesis. I'm not sure why motoring journalists are so
> fond of reducing street furniture, but I have my suspicions that it's
> to do with increasing their ability to behave as selfishly as they
> want.
>
> There's my controversial opinions on it.
>
> Now for the heated debate.
>
The Dutch experience is quite the opposite.
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/politics/story/0,6903,746877,00.html
--
Tony
"Anyone who conducts an argument by appealing to authority is not using
his intelligence; he is just using his memory."
- Leonardo da Vinci
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John B
Guest
Tony Raven wrote:
> Ambrose Nankivell wrote on 15/10/2006 20:49 +0100:
> > John Hearns wrote:
> >> Class, discuss.
> >>
> >> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/main.jhtml?xml=/motoring/2006/10/14/mflights114.xml
> >>
> >
> > Decluttering has reduced pedestrian injuries in Kensington High
> > Street because it's increased the amount of space for pedestrians,
> > maybe? And this result is not something that's generally applicable?
> >
> > That's my hypothesis. I'm not sure why motoring journalists are so
> > fond of reducing street furniture, but I have my suspicions that it's
> > to do with increasing their ability to behave as selfishly as they
> > want.
> >
> > There's my controversial opinions on it.
> >
> > Now for the heated debate.
> >
>
> The Dutch experience is quite the opposite.
> http://observer.guardian.co.uk/politics/story/0,6903,746877,00.html
The Dutch are not as intolerant and as selfish as the British.
John B
> Ambrose Nankivell wrote on 15/10/2006 20:49 +0100:
> > John Hearns wrote:
> >> Class, discuss.
> >>
> >> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/main.jhtml?xml=/motoring/2006/10/14/mflights114.xml
> >>
> >
> > Decluttering has reduced pedestrian injuries in Kensington High
> > Street because it's increased the amount of space for pedestrians,
> > maybe? And this result is not something that's generally applicable?
> >
> > That's my hypothesis. I'm not sure why motoring journalists are so
> > fond of reducing street furniture, but I have my suspicions that it's
> > to do with increasing their ability to behave as selfishly as they
> > want.
> >
> > There's my controversial opinions on it.
> >
> > Now for the heated debate.
> >
>
> The Dutch experience is quite the opposite.
> http://observer.guardian.co.uk/politics/story/0,6903,746877,00.html
The Dutch are not as intolerant and as selfish as the British.
John B
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Stevie D
Guest
John Hearns wrote:
> Class, discuss.
>
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/main.jhtml?xml=/motoring/2006/10/14/mflights114.xml
Absolutely agreed.
Cycle lanes, other than in locations where they can bypass queueing
traffic, are among the biggest problems that cyclists face in their
quest to ride safely and comfortably. Artificial constrictions and
narrowings in the road or traffic lane are pretty high up the list as
well. Removing them, and showing that cyclists are part of the main
traffic flow, can make a great difference.
--
Stevie D
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> Class, discuss.
>
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/main.jhtml?xml=/motoring/2006/10/14/mflights114.xml
Absolutely agreed.
Cycle lanes, other than in locations where they can bypass queueing
traffic, are among the biggest problems that cyclists face in their
quest to ride safely and comfortably. Artificial constrictions and
narrowings in the road or traffic lane are pretty high up the list as
well. Removing them, and showing that cyclists are part of the main
traffic flow, can make a great difference.
--
Stevie D
\\\\\ ///// Bringing dating agencies to the
\\\\\\\__X__/////// common hedgehog since 2001 - "HedgeHugs"
___\\\\\\\'/ \'///////_____________________________________________
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John B
Guest
John Hearns wrote:
> Class, discuss.
>
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/main.jhtml?xml=/motoring/2006/10/14/mflights114.xml
The real 'clutter' doesn't get a mention.
Its about time that those who choose to own vehicles were made to provide an off-road
place to keep them when they are not in use.
Roads are for the movement of people and goods, not places to store one's personal
possessions.
John B
> Class, discuss.
>
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/main.jhtml?xml=/motoring/2006/10/14/mflights114.xml
The real 'clutter' doesn't get a mention.
Its about time that those who choose to own vehicles were made to provide an off-road
place to keep them when they are not in use.
Roads are for the movement of people and goods, not places to store one's personal
possessions.
John B
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John Hearns
Guest
On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 21:25:55 +0100, Stevie D wrote:
> to ride safely and comfortably. Artificial constrictions and narrowings in
> the road or traffic lane are pretty high up the list as well. Removing
> them, and showing that cyclists are part of the main traffic flow, can
> make a great difference.
I agree totally. There is a road near me, which I cycled on this evening.
Parked cars on one side, road narrowing buildouts plus three across 'road
pillows'. I hate cycling on it. I always feel that in the case of a car
passing me and meeting another coming in the opposite direction I'll be
bashed into the parked cars.
Actually, as a car driver I try to straddle road pillows with the wheels.
I see most other cars doing the same - again dangerous to cyclists, as you
are more concentrating on lining the wheels up that on giving a cyclist
room.
> to ride safely and comfortably. Artificial constrictions and narrowings in
> the road or traffic lane are pretty high up the list as well. Removing
> them, and showing that cyclists are part of the main traffic flow, can
> make a great difference.
I agree totally. There is a road near me, which I cycled on this evening.
Parked cars on one side, road narrowing buildouts plus three across 'road
pillows'. I hate cycling on it. I always feel that in the case of a car
passing me and meeting another coming in the opposite direction I'll be
bashed into the parked cars.
Actually, as a car driver I try to straddle road pillows with the wheels.
I see most other cars doing the same - again dangerous to cyclists, as you
are more concentrating on lining the wheels up that on giving a cyclist
room.
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Anthony Jones
Guest
Tony Raven wrote:
> Which is why it's not better. You never know where a tinyurl is going
> to take you to. Makeashorter link tells you and gives you time to change
> your mind before taking you there.
Actually tinyurl gives you the choice:
http://tinyurl.com/preview.php
Anthony
> Which is why it's not better. You never know where a tinyurl is going
> to take you to. Makeashorter link tells you and gives you time to change
> your mind before taking you there.
Actually tinyurl gives you the choice:
http://tinyurl.com/preview.php
Anthony
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Simon Brooke
Guest
in message <[email protected]>, John B ('[email protected]')
wrote:
> John Hearns wrote:
>
>> Class, discuss.
>>
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/main.jhtml?xml=/motoring/2006/10/14/mflights114.xml
>
> The real 'clutter' doesn't get a mention.
> Its about time that those who choose to own vehicles were made to provide
> an off-road place to keep them when they are not in use.
> Roads are for the movement of people and goods, not places to store one's
> personal possessions.
Hear, hear!
--
[email protected] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
"This young man has not the faintest idea how socialists think and does
not begin to understand the mentality of the party he has been elected
to lead. He is quite simply a liberal"
-- Ken Coates MEP (Lab) of Tony Blair
wrote:
> John Hearns wrote:
>
>> Class, discuss.
>>
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/main.jhtml?xml=/motoring/2006/10/14/mflights114.xml
>
> The real 'clutter' doesn't get a mention.
> Its about time that those who choose to own vehicles were made to provide
> an off-road place to keep them when they are not in use.
> Roads are for the movement of people and goods, not places to store one's
> personal possessions.
Hear, hear!
--
[email protected] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
"This young man has not the faintest idea how socialists think and does
not begin to understand the mentality of the party he has been elected
to lead. He is quite simply a liberal"
-- Ken Coates MEP (Lab) of Tony Blair
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