Take the nike challenge.



In my quest to prove nikes are garbage, I want to issue a challenge to
all of RR to name a nike model shoe, and I will find the equivalent OR
BETTER in another brand for at least 30% less. I'll even throw in my
guarantee that the non-nikes will outlast the nikes in useful life.
Of course they'll be no takers, because you all know i am right.
 
On 2007-08-22, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
> In my quest to prove nikes are garbage, I want to issue a challenge to
> all of RR to name a nike model shoe, and I will find the equivalent OR
> BETTER in another brand for at least 30% less. I'll even throw in my
> guarantee that the non-nikes will outlast the nikes in useful life.
> Of course they'll be no takers, because you all know i am right.


Nike Streak XC $65 5.6oz

The competing model from Asics (the Piranha) is $109-.

Cheers,
--
Elflord
 
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] wrote:

> In my quest to prove nikes are garbage, I want to issue a challenge
> to all of RR to name a nike model shoe, and I will find the
> equivalent OR BETTER in another brand for at least 30% less. I'll
> even throw in my guarantee that the non-nikes will outlast the nikes
> in useful life. Of course they'll be no takers, because you all know
> i am right.


Or because we don't give a ****.

--
Crossing the starting line is 90%.
Crossing the finish line is the other 90%.
 
On Aug 22, 12:16 am, Michelle <[email protected]> wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
>
> [email protected] wrote:
> > In my quest to prove nikes are garbage, I want to issue a challenge
> > to all of RR to name a nike model shoe, and I will find the
> > equivalent OR BETTER in another brand for at least 30% less. I'll
> > even throw in my guarantee that the non-nikes will outlast the nikes
> > in useful life. Of course they'll be no takers, because you all know
> > i am right.

>
> Or because we don't give a ****.
>


No, it's because you are a stupid *****, whose old, nasty ***** is
dried up like a prune in the sun.
 
On Aug 21, 11:43 pm, Elflord <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 2007-08-22, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > In my quest to prove nikes are garbage, I want to issue a challenge to
> > all of RR to name a nike model shoe, and I will find the equivalent OR
> > BETTER in another brand for at least 30% less. I'll even throw in my
> > guarantee that the non-nikes will outlast the nikes in useful life.
> > Of course they'll be no takers, because you all know i am right.

>
> Nike Streak XC $65 5.6oz
>
> The competing model from Asics (the Piranha) is $109-.
>
> Cheers,
> --
> Elflord


You only mention the competing model from asics. How about the other
brands? The asics you mention is about 3x the shoe the nike is. That's
apples and oranges.
 
On Aug 21, 11:43 pm, Elflord <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 2007-08-22, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > In my quest to prove nikes are garbage, I want to issue a challenge to
> > all of RR to name a nike model shoe, and I will find the equivalent OR
> > BETTER in another brand for at least 30% less. I'll even throw in my
> > guarantee that the non-nikes will outlast the nikes in useful life.
> > Of course they'll be no takers, because you all know i am right.

>
> Nike Streak XC $65 5.6oz
>
> The competing model from Asics (the Piranha) is $109-.
>
> Cheers,
> --
> Elflord


The equivalent of the nike Streak can be bought at Kmart (their brand)
for $29.99, and it's better built than the nike, and will last twice
as long.
 
On Aug 21, 11:43 pm, Elflord <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 2007-08-22, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > In my quest to prove nikes are garbage, I want to issue a challenge to
> > all of RR to name a nike model shoe, and I will find the equivalent OR
> > BETTER in another brand for at least 30% less. I'll even throw in my
> > guarantee that the non-nikes will outlast the nikes in useful life.
> > Of course they'll be no takers, because you all know i am right.

>
> Nike Streak XC $65 5.6oz
>
> The competing model from Asics (the Piranha) is $109-.
>
> Cheers,
> --
> Elflord


The Asics is also much, much lighter at 4.8 ozs, and is a far superior
shoe with gel instead of air (air is nikes favorite because it's free,
and gel costs money. But gel outperforms air in every way) so as I
said you are comparing apples to oranges.
The asics will be around long after the nikes are sold on ebay as
"lots of life left" shoes.
 
On Aug 21, 11:43 pm, Elflord <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 2007-08-22, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > In my quest to prove nikes are garbage, I want to issue a challenge to
> > all of RR to name a nike model shoe, and I will find the equivalent OR
> > BETTER in another brand for at least 30% less. I'll even throw in my
> > guarantee that the non-nikes will outlast the nikes in useful life.
> > Of course they'll be no takers, because you all know i am right.

>
> Nike Streak XC $65 5.6oz
>
> The competing model from Asics (the Piranha) is $109-.
>
> Cheers,
> --
> Elflord


AND upon closer inspection, the asics can be bought for as little as
$69.00 if you search. The nike has a 3 star rating, and the Asics a 5
star rating. As I said, apples and oranges.
 
On 2007-08-22, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:

> AND upon closer inspection, the asics can be bought for as little as
> $69.00 if you search.


Where ?

> The nike has a 3 star rating, and the Asics a 5
> star rating.


What does this mean ?

Cheers,
--
Elflord
 
On 2007-08-22, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Aug 21, 11:43 pm, Elflord <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 2007-08-22, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > In my quest to prove nikes are garbage, I want to issue a challenge to
>> > all of RR to name a nike model shoe, and I will find the equivalent OR
>> > BETTER in another brand for at least 30% less. I'll even throw in my
>> > guarantee that the non-nikes will outlast the nikes in useful life.
>> > Of course they'll be no takers, because you all know i am right.

>>
>> Nike Streak XC $65 5.6oz
>>
>> The competing model from Asics (the Piranha) is $109-.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> --
>> Elflord

>
> You only mention the competing model from asics. How about the other
> brands?


No other brand has a lightweight flat (<6oz) in their lineup. And no, K-mart
brand doesn't count.

Cheers,
--
Elflord
 
On Aug 22, 10:32 am, Elflord <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 2007-08-22, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > AND upon closer inspection, the asics can be bought for as little as
> > $69.00 if you search.

>
> Where ?
>


Sorry I'm not sure. I saw it on one site this morning, but now all I
can find is a 98.00 one at roadrunner sports.

> > The nike has a 3 star rating, and the Asics a 5
> > star rating.

>
> What does this mean ?
>


Like I know? LOL There were ratings from 1 star (least) to 5 star
(best), and the nike gota 3 star rating, the piranha a 5 star rating.
No matter how it's determined, it is still indicative of what I'm
saying.

> Cheers,
> --
> Elflord
 
On Aug 22, 10:34 am, Elflord <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 2007-08-22, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Aug 21, 11:43 pm, Elflord <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> On 2007-08-22, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> >> > In my quest to prove nikes are garbage, I want to issue a challenge to
> >> > all of RR to name a nike model shoe, and I will find the equivalent OR
> >> > BETTER in another brand for at least 30% less. I'll even throw in my
> >> > guarantee that the non-nikes will outlast the nikes in useful life.
> >> > Of course they'll be no takers, because you all know i am right.

>
> >> Nike Streak XC $65 5.6oz

>
> >> The competing model from Asics (the Piranha) is $109-.

>
> >> Cheers,
> >> --
> >> Elflord

>
> > You only mention the competing model from asics. How about the other
> > brands?

>
> No other brand has a lightweight flat (<6oz) in their lineup. And no, K-mart
> brand doesn't count.
>


So you were TROLLING me? You *******!
I only mentioned kmart because that's where you can buy the equivalent
of the streaker at.
 
On 2007-08-22, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:

> Like I know? LOL There were ratings from 1 star (least) to 5 star
> (best), and the nike gota 3 star rating, the piranha a 5 star rating.


OK, so where were these ratings ? I have used the Nike and it's one of the
best flats I've worn (the Asics models prior to the piranha don't come close)

> No matter how it's determined, it is still indicative of what I'm
> saying.


I wouldn't give them much weight.

Cheers,
--
Elflord
 
On Aug 22, 11:38 am, Elflord <[email protected]> wrote:
> OK, so where were these ratings ? I have used the Nike and it's one of the
> best flats I've worn (the Asics models prior to the piranha don't come close)
>


But flats are quite different than trainers. Flats are a minimal shoe,
and since you don't wear them daily, the life expectancy isn't an
issue as much as with a training shoe worn daily. IMHO a flat is a
flat.

>
> I wouldn't give them much weight.
>


You would if they bolstered YOUR arguement. But coincidentally they
rated the nike at about half the shoe the asics is, so they match up
with what I said about it being half the shoe.
I also noticed you didn't address the fact the asics is a far better
shoe just by virtue of having gel compared to air. The "air" ********
from nike is really a pisser.
 
On 2007-08-22, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Aug 22, 11:38 am, Elflord <[email protected]> wrote:
>> OK, so where were these ratings ? I have used the Nike and it's one of the
>> best flats I've worn (the Asics models prior to the piranha don't come close)
>>

>
> But flats are quite different than trainers.


Yep.

> Flats are a minimal shoe,
> and since you don't wear them daily, the life expectancy isn't an
> issue as much as with a training shoe worn daily.


I agree, but I don't quite understand what your argument is -- are you arguing
that Nikes are an otherwise great shoe with a durability problem ?

> IMHO a flat is a flat.


Well OK, but some shoe companies have trouble making a true flat (without
"rollbars", medial posts, etc)

>> I wouldn't give them much weight.

>
> You would if they bolstered YOUR arguement. But coincidentally they


They could bolster almost any argument, depending on which rating one
cited.

> rated the nike at about half the shoe the asics is, so they match up
> with what I said about it being half the shoe.
> I also noticed you didn't address the fact the asics is a far better
> shoe just by virtue of having gel compared to air.


The Piranha doesn't have Gel.

> The "air" ********
> from nike is really a pisser.


Sometimes less is more

Cheers,
--
Elflord
 
On Aug 22, 5:15 pm, Elflord <[email protected]> wrote:
> I agree, but I don't quite understand what your argument is -- are you arguing
> that Nikes are an otherwise great shoe with a durability problem ?
>


No arguement at all.
My point is that I can't argue short life if it's a racing flat,
because life expectancy isn't an issue with racing flats as much as
trainers. Obviously you only use racing flats at races, which is a
very small percentage of the total miles run in training.
As far as durability goes, I'd say yes, but I don't think I'd call
them an otherwise great shoe, more of an overpriced mediocre shoe with
durability problems. I've simply never worn or tried on a good pair of
nikes. Maybe they are just designed for lighter people, and my 185lbs
is too much for them, but they just don't work for me, and the pairs I
have had just didn't last half as long as other brands. I also came up
injured within a few weeks with every pair of nikes I've worn.
The price of nikes is another issue I have. Too much spent on
advertising instead of making a good shoe.


> Well OK, but some shoe companies have trouble making a true flat (without
> "rollbars", medial posts, etc)
>


Agreed. BTW the last time I strapped on racing flats was my last
marathon back in the early 80's, so I am defeniately no expert on
racing flats.

> They could bolster almost any argument, depending on which rating one
> cited.
>


True, and the site I was looking at didn't say what the stars
represented. It could've easily been the most popular selling model,
but I do believe it was a customer rating by how satisfied they were
with that shoe.

> The Piranha doesn't have Gel.
>


On this site
http://www.roadrunnersports.com/rrs/products/ASC1275/ it's called
the "gel piranha SP" so I assumed it did have gel.

> Sometimes less is more
>


And sometimes less is just cheaper, so it's used instead of gel. I
noticed nike is big on "air" while most other brands use gel, or
another equivelent.
 
[email protected] wrote:

> On Aug 22, 12:16 am, Michelle <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Or because we don't give a ****.
>>

>
>
> I bet your 64YO ****** is so dry you need KY jelly just to flick your
> bean.


And this from a guy with a body like yours, so stupid you cam your own
ass, then cam yourself flexing your pathetic muscles, in your shitty
apartment. And let's not forget that pussified, nerdy Volkswagen face.
Boy, you need a reality check. And how.


--
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On Aug 22, 7:52 pm, Alric Knebel <alric@[cableone.net]> wrote:
> And this from a guy with a body like yours, so stupid you cam your own
> ass, then cam yourself flexing your pathetic muscles, in your shitty
> apartment. And let's not forget that pussified, nerdy Volkswagen face.
> Boy, you need a reality check. And how.
>
> --
> _________________
> Alric Knebel
>
> http://www.ironeyefortress.com/C-SPAN_loon.htmlhttp://www.ironeyefortress.com


And Bill, I still love your ass too. The hairs, the clingons, the bits
of TP seductively draped over your hemoroids...what's not to love? I'm
not gay Bill, but I admit to be fascinated by your ass to the point of
obsession, and I've decided we must wed, in mass of course where it's
legal. We'll live platonically, and I can just admire that fine ass
from afar.
Your friend in lust,
--
_________________
Alric Knebel

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