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Szechuan Pepper is back

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  1. Yesterday's San Jose Mercury food section had an article about the
    imminent return of Szechuan pepper to the US. Evidently, heating the
    pepper to >140 deg F for 10 mins is enough to kill the citrus canker
    that caused its ban. The article went on to say that although none
    has been found locally, Draeger's is hot on the trail. Good thing, as
    my horded stash is almost gone.

    nb

  2. notbob said:

    Yesterday's San Jose Mercury food section had an article about the
    imminent return of Szechuan pepper to the US. Evidently, heating the
    pepper to >140 deg F for 10 mins is enough to kill the citrus canker
    that caused its ban. The article went on to say that although none
    has been found locally, Draeger's is hot on the trail. Good thing, as
    my horded stash is almost gone.

    I saw some last week in the Chinese market on Castro Street, Mountain View.
    It was in big plastic bags, probably at least a half pound, in a cardboard
    crate near the produce cooler. The bags were mislabelled - no mention of
    Szechuan pepper on the label.

    When I was in China a couple of years ago, I had a dish that was loaded
    with Szechuan pepper, and the experience was far more intense than
    anything I've had here at home. Biting into a peppercorn actually
    caused my tongue to go numb and tingly for several minutes. After
    that meal, I bought some Szechuan peppercorns in a market in Guilin,
    and they had the same effect. Since then I've wondered whether the
    stuff we used to get here was inferior quality or just stale.

    -Joe

  3. Max Hauser said:

    "notbob" <[email hidden]> :

    Quoted message said:

    Yesterday's San Jose Mercury food section had an article
    about the imminent return of Szechuan pepper to the US.
    ... The article went on to say that although none
    has been found locally, Draeger's is hot on the trail.

    Jeez. I could say something about that but I won't. Draeger's indeed.
    Look for it in Chinese spice shops, same as you always should. (Whoever
    wrote that assertion that "none has been found locally" probably just needed
    to write a story. That's different from needing to cook.)


    To my knowledge, there has never been a shortage of Szechuan
    pepper in the San Francisco Bay Area. I think I can buy it
    at my neighborhood green grocer's! I should look more
    closely at those packaged spices behind the counter next
    time I'm there.

    BTW: Don't you get irked about the sloppy writing that
    appears daily in the newspaper? Stories like the one above
    (obviously written by a noncooking ignoramus), big stories
    on important news that leaves out crutial information which
    might lead to actual comprehension by the reader, etc.

    Today's paper had a small article about a visiting dance
    troup from Smokey Mountain in Manila. It was accompanied by
    a picture almost as large as the article... which showed the
    backs of pretty girls in pretty costumes - walking. It
    looked like one of those "ooops" shots we all make and throw
    away. What was the editor thinking? Was the editor even
    thinking at all?

    The paper also had a letter to the editor about NCLB, the
    fact that 95% of students are required to be tested and then
    it talked about parents being pressured to "opt out" to
    improve school test scores. WHAT??? Schools are doing
    their best to have students IN SCHOOL during the testing
    period, not the other way around - and that includes the
    most severe special education students. Again, what was the
    editor thinking??? Print something that makes sense, don't
    just try to fill up white space.

    It's getting to the point where I don't even like to read
    the "news"paper, because it makes me so mad.

    sf

  4. "sf" wrote...

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    "notbob" :

    Quoted message said:
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    Yesterday's San Jose Mercury food section had an article
    about the imminent return of Szechuan pepper to the US.
    ... The article went on to say that although none
    has been found locally, Draeger's is hot on the trail.

    Jeez. I could say something about that but I won't. Draeger's indeed.
    Look for it in Chinese spice shops, same as you always should. (Whoever
    wrote that assertion that "none has been found locally" probably just
    needed
    to write a story. That's different from needing to cook.)


    To my knowledge, there has never been a shortage of Szechuan
    pepper in the San Francisco Bay Area. I think I can buy it
    at my neighborhood green grocer's! I should look more
    closely at those packaged spices behind the counter next
    time I'm there.

    Sorry, sf, but Szechauan pepper is a major part of my spice cabinet, and
    it's been a major loss. I don't know what your neighborhood green grocer
    has but ... not anything good. It's been banned from the USA for a several
    years because of the cancor.

    Szechauan pepper is what brought me back to the group after many years---I
    couldn't get it ... and still can't get it. I NEED it for a wonderful
    stuffed Asian/Chinese eggplant dish that I first tasted in the east in 1970,
    and learned to make.

    We truly miss that dish. Actually, you all can make the dish, but the
    Szechauan pepper mixed with salt as a condiment makes it. I first ate this
    dish in a Chinese restaurant on Okinawa, early 1970's (btw, Okinawa got a
    major influx of Chinese after the 1948 revolution, probably secondary only
    to Taiwan).

    STUFFED EGGPLANT (Chinese) 4 - 8 servings

    1/2 lb ground pork

    6 large dried shrimp, soaked in 2 Tbsp hot water for 30 minutes, then
    drained and finely chopped

    1 green onion, finely chopped

    1 Tbsp cornstarch

    1/2 tsp salt

    1/2 tsp sugar

    1/4 tsp pepper

    3 - 4 Asian eggplants (short white and purple) or 2 Japanese eggplants
    (skinny aubergines) - sliced to create sandwiches to stuff (European fatto
    eggplants won't work because you need the skin)

    Beer batter (see below) or other light batter

    2 c. peanut oil

    Combine filling ingredients until meat holds together. Stuff eggplant
    slices, dip in batter, and deep fry in 350°F oil until brown - about 2
    minutes on a side. Serve with spiced salt/pepper (Penzey's Sichuan
    pepper-salt is perfect).

  5. Ed Grabau and Pam Jacoby said:


    Sorry, sf, but Szechauan pepper is a major part of my spice cabinet,
    and it's been a major loss. I don't know what your neighborhood
    green grocer has but ... not anything good. It's been banned from
    the USA for a several years because of the cancor.

    Szechauan pepper is what brought me back to the group after many
    years---I couldn't get it ... and still can't get it. I NEED it for
    a wonderful stuffed Asian/Chinese eggplant dish that I first tasted
    in the east in 1970, and learned to make.


    I posted a bunch of links to afa a few months back, where one could
    currently get Szechuan peppercorns through mail order. Here's a repeat of
    that post (copied and pasted from google)
    ----begin paste----

    You must have missed http://tinyurl.com/5ugcf . They've had them for a few
    months, now. FWIW, the ban has been revised (in January, no less) to allow
    heat-treated peppercorns on the market in the US. If the tinyurl link
    doesn't work, the homepage is www.adrianascaravan.com (range in price,
    depending on size of bag). Just do a search for "Szechuan peppercorns."
    Another option is www.buffalocreekspices.com . It's under "Peppercorns,
    Whole Sichuan" and is $8/lb. A third option is
    http://www.thecmccompany.com/chin.htm but it's $5.95/2 oz there.

    I have no experience with the above companies and cannot, personally,
    recommend them. I got the information from the good folks on e-Gullet and
    their 12-page thread on Sichuan Peppercorns. Several people there
    recommend, and have purchased from, both CMC and Buffalo Creek, btw.

    -----end paste-----

    FWIW, I bought a huge (for me) bag of them at the wholesale food market in
    Chinatown in Bangkok. Very fresh, very pungent--smelling, at least!
    Haven't cooked with them, yet.

    rona
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