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  1. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Edward Dolan said:

    My God! We do not want this lunatic back in our sacred cycling precincts. If
    you listen to him you will end up in Barrow yourself hunting the g.d. whale
    and drinking yourself to death like the freaking Eskimos.

    I ended up in Barrow 2 summers ago.
    The North Slope is a dry borough.

    Quoted message said:

    I hear the high arctic is melting away due to global warming and that the
    polar bear will soon be extinct. Now if we could just figure out a way to
    make old Floyd extinct. How he can ride any kind of a bicycle in Barrow is
    one for the books. Do they even have any roads there?

    Oh sure. The roads are graded gravel. Ride a mtn. bike easily.

    Quoted message said:

    According to Floyd, we should all be taking our vacations in Barrow in
    January. There we would never see the sun, and enjoy 50 degrees below zero.
    The main thing we should take with us when we go there on our vacations is
    plenty of liquor so we can get as drunk as the natives. After all, when you
    are living that far north, you do not want to see, feel or hear anything -
    except maybe the beating of your own heart just to reassure you that you
    have not died and gone to a very cold and dark Hell. Greenland, anyone?

    Yep, I am trying to get on an ice coring expedition there.

    Quoted message said:

    As Scott lay dying in his tent in Antarctica, he wrote in his diary, "God,
    this is an awful place!" Hey Floyd, you brain dead nit-wit, why don't you
    go to Antarctica. Barrow (and all of Alaska for that matter) is for sissies.

    He wrote awful place at the Pole before he really started dying.
    Been there, done that.

    What's this got to do with bikes?

    --

  2. "Eugene Miya" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:44517213$1@darkstar...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    Edward Dolan <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Newsgroups restored.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    My God! We do not want this lunatic back in our sacred cycling precincts.
    If
    you listen to him you will end up in Barrow yourself hunting the g.d.
    whale
    and drinking yourself to death like the freaking Eskimos.

    I ended up in Barrow 2 summers ago.
    The North Slope is a dry borough.

    I spend many hours a day looking at PBS on TV and there are numerous
    programs that tell how the Eskimos (and the American Indian too) are into
    nothing but drinking themselves to death. I only have to go a few miles
    south to the Omaha and Winnebago Indian Reservations to see it for myself.
    However, as a true blue Irishman, I am not too critical of those who want to
    drink. Hells Bells, sometimes it is the only thing that makes it possible to
    go on living.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I hear the high arctic is melting away due to global warming and that the
    polar bear will soon be extinct. Now if we could just figure out a way to
    make old Floyd extinct. How he can ride any kind of a bicycle in Barrow is
    one for the books. Do they even have any roads there?

    Oh sure. The roads are graded gravel. Ride a mtn. bike easily.

    I think old Floyd, the would-be Eskimo, has a Tour Easy recumbent, not an
    ideal bike for riding on gravel roads.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    According to Floyd, we should all be taking our vacations in Barrow in
    January. There we would never see the sun, and enjoy 50 degrees below
    zero.
    The main thing we should take with us when we go there on our vacations is
    plenty of liquor so we can get as drunk as the natives. After all, when
    you
    are living that far north, you do not want to see, feel or hear anything -
    except maybe the beating of your own heart just to reassure you that you
    have not died and gone to a very cold and dark Hell. Greenland, anyone?

    Yep, I am trying to get on an ice coring expedition there.

    You are welcome to the cold and dark Hell that is the high arctic. Be sure
    to go there in January. May you perish there of your stupidity - along with
    old Floyd of Barrow, Alaska!

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    As Scott lay dying in his tent in Antarctica, he wrote in his diary, "God,
    this is an awful place!" Hey Floyd, you brain dead nit-wit, why don't you
    go to Antarctica. Barrow (and all of Alaska for that matter) is for
    sissies.

    He wrote awful place at the Pole before he really started dying.

    Hell, Scott was dying of terminal stupidity from the beginning, just as you
    would if you ventured to Antarctica.

    Quoted message said:

    Been there, done that.

    ???

    Quoted message said:

    What's this got to do with bikes?

    To stay strictly on the subject of bikes is the most boring thing in the
    universe. You proved that by answering my humble message. However, I do not
    know why you have cut the other newsgroups. They are all waiting with baited
    breath for my every word. Do you not have any idea at all how Great I am?

    Regards,

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
    aka
    Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

  3. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Edward Dolan said:

    Newsgroups restored.

    If you want.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    The North Slope is a dry borough.

    I spend many hours a day looking at PBS on TV and there are numerous
    programs that tell how the Eskimos (and the American Indian too) are into
    nothing but drinking themselves to death.

    I have met some of these Eskimos.
    I was sitting in an all you can eat crab feed in Los Anchorage killing
    time before a plane one winter when one such local decided to walk in
    and sit across from me at the table. He was far more pitiful than a
    real threat (unlike my old man).

    That does not mean that all of the Native-Americans are drunks.
    And they are also trying to do something about it.

    And I have been multiply mistaken as an Athebascan.

    Quoted message said:

    I only have to go a few miles
    south to the Omaha and Winnebago Indian Reservations to see it for myself.

    Thousands don't drink.

    Quoted message said:

    However, as a true blue Irishman, I am not too critical of those who want to
    drink. Hells Bells, sometimes it is the only thing that makes it possible to
    go on living.

    I've had and have Irish girl friends. Still a culture I have to figure out.
    Well, you know if this were feudal Japan, and you wanted it,
    I'd pull out my sword and cut your head off in the Bells put
    you in that much pain.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Oh sure. The roads are graded gravel. Ride a mtn. bike easily.

    I think old Floyd, the would-be Eskimo, has a Tour Easy recumbent, not an
    ideal bike for riding on gravel roads.

    I only rode around with Floyd in a borrowed Suburban.

    I rejected a Tour Easy for a Rans Stratus minus the lower handle bars
    and the wind screen. I cna do those later if I want.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    gone to a very cold and dark Hell. Greenland, anyone?


    Yep, I am trying to get on an ice coring expedition there.

    You are welcome to the cold and dark Hell that is the high arctic. Be sure
    to go there in January. May you perish there of your stupidity - along with
    old Floyd of Barrow, Alaska!

    I'd go in summer. Neat place.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    As Scott lay dying in his tent in Antarctica, he wrote in his diary, "God,
    this is an awful place!" Hey Floyd, you brain dead nit-wit, why don't you
    go to Antarctica. Barrow (and all of Alaska for that matter) is for
    sissies.


    He wrote awful place at the Pole before he really started dying.

    Hell, Scott was dying of terminal stupidity from the beginning, just as you
    would if you ventured to Antarctica.

    Past tense?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Been there, done that.


    ???

    I'm back. I even have the nod for solo travel there.
    Overflew the area of his body.
    That what does not kills us makes us stronger?
    That's a certain Western way of thinking.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    What's this got to do with bikes?

    To stay strictly on the subject of bikes is the most boring thing in the
    universe. You proved that by answering my humble message. However, I do not
    know why you have cut the other newsgroups. They are all waiting with baited
    breath for my every word. Do you not have any idea at all how Great I am?

    Never heard of you.
    Do you know Andy Mickel? Now he is a good man in the Twin cities.
    The first sentence is somewhat correct.
    Is the 2nd really humble or shallow courtesy?
    I cut the other groups because they were not needed.

    Quoted message said:

    the Great - Minnesota

    Consider perhaps, less than great.

    Been to Minnesota.
    What are you drinking?

    --

  4. (Eugene Miya) said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Edward Dolan said:

    However, as a true blue Irishman, I am not too critical of those who want to
    drink. Hells Bells, sometimes it is the only thing that makes it possible to
    go on living.

    I've had and have Irish girl friends. Still a culture I have to figure out.

    An opportunity here, what with Edward Dolan providing an
    example! All the perspective needed is summed up in a nasty
    little joke:

    Q: Why did God make whiskey?
    A: It prevents the Irish from ruling the world.

    Applied to what Dolan writes, and it all becomes much easier to
    focus on what he is thinking.

    Of course, I'm sure Eugene already knows that, but I'll post
    it for anyone who has missed the point previously

    Quoted message said:

    Well, you know if this were feudal Japan, and you wanted it,
    I'd pull out my sword and cut your head off in the Bells put
    you in that much pain.

    Don't be giving anyone ideas...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Oh sure. The roads are graded gravel. Ride a mtn. bike easily.

    I think old Floyd, the would-be Eskimo, has a Tour Easy recumbent, not an
    ideal bike for riding on gravel roads.

    I only rode around with Floyd in a borrowed Suburban.

    Borrowed? (I don't loan it to anybody.)

    Quoted message said:

    I rejected a Tour Easy for a Rans Stratus minus the lower handle bars
    and the wind screen. I cna do those later if I want.

    A feller here named Jim, who is a past mayor of Barrow (as is
    his wife), has a tandem recumbent, among others. The two of
    them, or Jim and his young son, cruise around town often on it.

    Quoted message said:

    What are you drinking?

    Eugene has Edward Dolan figured out...

    --
    Floyd L. Davidson <http://www.apaflo.com/floyd_davidson>
    Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) [email hidden]

  5. "Eugene Miya" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:44526b08$1@darkstar...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    Edward Dolan <[email hidden]> wrote:


    [...]

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    However, as a true blue Irishman, I am not too critical of those who want
    to
    drink. Hells Bells, sometimes it is the only thing that makes it possible
    to
    go on living.

    I've had and have Irish girl friends. Still a culture I have to figure
    out. ....

    You cannot understand the Irish without being thoroughly grounded in the
    Roman Catholic Faith. The Irish, like the Poles, are ever faithful to the
    Roman Church and have been saddled with a clergy that was everything to
    them. However, when an Irish Catholic falls away from the Faith, then watch
    out as the Devil Himself is loose. But even a fallen-away Irish Catholic
    never completely escapes his childhood faith.
    [...]

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    You are welcome to the cold and dark Hell that is the high arctic. Be sure
    to go there in January. May you perish there of your stupidity - along
    with
    old Floyd of Barrow, Alaska!

    I'd go in summer. Neat place.

    I think Floyd, the would-be Eskimo, lives in Barrow year-around. If you are
    only there in the summer, then you obviously are not as stupid as he is.
    Congratulations!

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >As Scott lay dying in his tent in Antarctica, he wrote in his diary,
    >"God,
    >this is an awful place!" Hey Floyd, you brain dead nit-wit, why don't
    >you
    >go to Antarctica. Barrow (and all of Alaska for that matter) is for
    >sissies.
    He wrote awful place at the Pole before he really started dying.

    Hell, Scott was dying of terminal stupidity from the beginning, just as
    you
    would if you ventured to Antarctica.

    Past tense?

    Nope, I wrote it correctly. I meant to imply that Scott was stupid to want
    to go to Antarctica in the first place. Anyone with any common sense could
    have told him that Antarctica was an "awful place."

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Been there, done that.


    ???

    I'm back. I even have the nod for solo travel there.
    Overflew the area of his body.
    That what does not kills us makes us stronger?
    That's a certain Western way of thinking.

    Anyone can fly over anything. Don't be such a sissy. Who not trek across
    Antarctica on foot?
    [...]

    Regards,

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
    aka
    Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

  6. "Floyd L. Davidson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    [...]

    Quoted message said:

    Eugene has Edward Dolan figured out...

    --
    Floyd L. Davidson <http://www.apaflo.com/floyd_davidson>
    Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) [email hidden]

    Eugene has some reflective qualities and is not as dense as Floyd. He also
    likes to contribute something to the group instead of just attacking all the
    time like Floyd. Floyd should take a few cues from Eugene and get with the
    program.

    I have severely criticized anyone who would freely choose to live in Barrow,
    Alaska, surely one of the sink holes of the world. Floyd needs to explain to
    the group what the hell it is that he does there in January, besides hunker
    down and drink like all the Eskimos and Indians (Athabascans) do. Minnesota
    is also the pits in the winter, but the North Slope of Alaska is infinitely
    worse. It is a cold and dark Hell there in January and anyone who says
    otherwise is a fool.

    Regards,

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
    aka
    Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

  7. Edward Dolan said:

    "Eugene Miya" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:44526b08$1@darkstar...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    However, as a true blue Irishman, I am not too critical of those who want to
    drink. Hells Bells, sometimes it is the only thing that makes it possible
    to go on living.


    "Pitiful, pitiful" --Jed Clampett

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I've had and have Irish girl friends. Still a culture I have to figure
    out. ....

    You cannot understand the Irish without being thoroughly grounded in the
    Roman Catholic Faith.

    Undoubtably true.
    Therefore the non-Catholic portions of the, Asia, Africa, the
    Middle-East, the Protestian parts need not attempt an otherwise
    impossible task for Crusaders to learn about opposition forces?

    Quoted message said:

    The Irish, like the Poles, are ever faithful to the
    Roman Church and have been saddled with a clergy that was everything to
    them. However, when an Irish Catholic falls away from the Faith, then
    watch out as the Devil Himself is loose. But even a fallen-away Irish Catholic
    never completely escapes his childhood faith.

    A Romantic sounding notion, but in the current Crusade, that likely will
    never cut it.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    You are welcome to the cold and dark Hell that is the high arctic. Be sure
    to go there in January. May you perish there of your stupidity - along
    old Floyd of Barrow, Alaska!


    I'd go in summer. Neat place.

    I think Floyd, the would-be Eskimo, lives in Barrow year-around. If you
    are only there in the summer, then you obviously are not as stupid as he is.

    I have visited Fairbanks friends in winter.
    Weather is no biggie to the prepared.

    Quoted message said:

    Congratulations!

    Thank you.
    But it's just travel.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >>As Scott lay dying in his tent in Antarctica, he wrote in his diary,
    >>"God,
    >>this is an awful place!" Hey Floyd, you brain dead nit-wit, why
    >>don't you
    >>go to Antarctica. Barrow (and all of Alaska for that matter) is for
    >>sissies.
    > He wrote awful place at the Pole before he really started dying.

    Hell, Scott was dying of terminal stupidity from the beginning, just
    as you would if you ventured to Antarctica.

    Past tense?

    Nope, I wrote it correctly. I meant to imply that Scott was stupid to
    want to go to Antarctica in the first place. Anyone with any common sense
    could have told him that Antarctica was an "awful place."

    I will repeat that the past tense was for the word "ventured."

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > Been there, done that.
    ???


    I'm back. I even have the nod for solo travel there.
    Overflew the area of his body.
    That what does not kills us makes us stronger?
    That's a certain Western way of thinking.

    Anyone can fly over anything. Don't be such a sissy. Who not trek across
    Antarctica on foot?

    And I didn't?

    Better think again. Not just flying.
    All kinds of transport.

    Quoted message said:

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
    Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

    Sad statement.

    Great - Minnesota, a great state.

    --

  8. "Edward Dolan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:4463ceda$1@darkstar...

    Quoted message said:
    Edward Dolan said:

    "Eugene Miya" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:44526b08$1@darkstar...


    [...]

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >Hell, Scott was dying of terminal stupidity from the beginning, just
    >as you would if you ventured to Antarctica.

    Past tense?

    Nope, I wrote it correctly. I meant to imply that Scott was stupid to
    want to go to Antarctica in the first place. Anyone with any common sense
    could have told him that Antarctica was an "awful place."

    I will repeat that the past tense was for the word "ventured."

    The words "would" and "if" makes what follows conditional. I wrote it
    correctly. I am almost never wrong about these sort of things.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> Been there, done that.
    >???
    I'm back. I even have the nod for solo travel there.
    Overflew the area of his body.
    That what does not kills us makes us stronger?
    That's a certain Western way of thinking.

    Anyone can fly over anything. Don't be such a sissy. Why not trek across
    Antarctica on foot?

    And I didn't?

    Better think again. Not just flying.
    All kinds of transport.

    There is no way this idiot trekked across Antarctica. If he had, he would do
    more than just mention it.

    Regards,

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
    aka
    Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

  9. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >>as you would if you ventured to Antarctica.
    > Past tense?
    Nope, I wrote it correctly. I meant to imply that Scott was stupid to
    want to go to Antarctica in the first place. Anyone with any common sense
    could have told him that Antarctica was an "awful place."


    I will repeat that the past tense was for the word "ventured."

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Edward Dolan said:

    The words "would" and "if" makes what follows conditional. I wrote it
    correctly. I am almost never wrong about these sort of things.

    Better consider yourself wrong.
    BTW, the good book Uncommon Sense by Cromer was published the year I was
    in the Antarctic.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Anyone can fly over anything. Don't be such a sissy. Why not trek across
    Antarctica on foot?


    And I didn't?
    Better think again. Not just flying.
    All kinds of transport.

    There is no way this idiot trekked across Antarctica. If he had, he would do
    more than just mention it.

    You have a very limited, very media biased view of the Antarctic.
    Yep, computer people get to the Antarctic.
    And I did it on you tax dollar.

    People have unicycled around the South Pole.
    There are bikes in McMurdo and elsewhere.

    --

  10. In article <4465147e$1@darkstar>, [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:

    People have unicycled around the South Pole.
    There are bikes in McMurdo and elsewhere.

    Uh oh, does Mike Vandeman know about that?

    --
    [email hidden] is Joshua Putnam
    http://www.phred.org/~josh
    "My other bike is a car."

  11. "Eugene Miya" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:4465147e$1@darkstar...

    Edward Dolan said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >Anyone can fly over anything. Don't be such a sissy. Why not trek across
    >Antarctica on foot?
    And I didn't?
    Better think again. Not just flying.
    All kinds of transport.

    There is no way this idiot trekked across Antarctica. If he had, he would
    do
    more than just mention it.

    You have a very limited, very media biased view of the Antarctic.

    I have read many books about Antarctica. That is why, like Scott, I know it
    is an awful place. But I do not have to go there to discover that first
    hand, unlike some idiots I know.

    By the way, some media reports on faraway places are better than others. I
    pretty much trust the National Geographic channel to report truthfully.
    [...]

    Get back to me if and when you trek across the continent of Anarctica.
    Anyone can fly down there and sit in a shack for a few weeks or months.

    You think Barrow, Alaska is a neat place? I would like to hear what you
    think is so neat about it.

    Regards,

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
    aka
    Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

  12. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Edward Dolan said:

    I have read many books about Antarctica. That is why, like Scott, I know it
    is an awful place. But I do not have to go there to discover that first
    hand, unlike some idiots I know.

    Are you declaring me to be an idiot?

    Quoted message said:

    By the way, some media reports on faraway places are better than others. I
    pretty much trust the National Geographic channel to report truthfully.

    Oh, the NG is OK.

    Quoted message said:

    Get back to me if and when you trek across the continent of Anarctica.
    Anyone can fly down there and sit in a shack for a few weeks or months.

    Oh, you are saying that I just sat in a shack?

    Quoted message said:

    You think Barrow, Alaska is a neat place? I would like to hear what you
    think is so neat about it.

    As the Northern most US town, it has diural cycles unlike the lower 48.
    It's surrounded on most sides by water. A large number of birders go
    there which may be a good indicator of climate change. The physical
    environment has toughened prior generations, what this means for future
    generations is unknown and likely going to involve change and loss of
    some cultural knowledge. Homes are shacks scattered all over the place
    which contrasts to the Cartesian layout of some villages on
    the North Slope post pipeline. Floyd is correct in that it
    has a more diverse population that just the local indigenous people.
    But this does not mean that Floyd has succeeded in gaining full
    acceptance into their community. Floyd does have access in information
    not covered in the touristy guidebooks. He has travelled to other parts
    of his state. This last sentence can't be easily appreciated by
    lower-48ers because roads don't play a part in AK as they do in the
    lower 48. Yet there is substantial Internet penetration. The locals
    are fairly well educated and get around.

    --

  13. "Eugene Miya" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:4468baac$1@darkstar...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Edward Dolan said:

    I have read many books about Antarctica. That is why, like Scott, I know
    it
    is an awful place. But I do not have to go there to discover that first
    hand, unlike some idiots I know.

    Are you declaring me to be an idiot?

    Only if you think Antarctica is a "neat place."

    I have read that the national flag of Antarctica, if it were a nation, would
    be composed of just two colors equally divided half and half. The top half
    would be just blue and the bottom half would be just white. That is because
    that is pretty much what most of Antarctica looks like. In short, NOT a neat
    place. The Amazon, anyone?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    By the way, some media reports on faraway places are better than others. I
    pretty much trust the National Geographic channel to report truthfully.

    Oh, the NG is OK.

    Quoted message said:

    Get back to me if and when you trek across the continent of Anarctica.
    Anyone can fly down there and sit in a shack for a few weeks or months.

    Oh, you are saying that I just sat in a shack?

    That is pretty much all that community of scientists do down there. None of
    them could survive a week if it weren't for various technological miracles.
    Ah, for the good old days of the 19th century!

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    You think Barrow, Alaska is a neat place? I would like to hear what you
    think is so neat about it.

    As the Northern most US town, it has diural cycles unlike the lower 48.
    It's surrounded on most sides by water. A large number of birders go
    there which may be a good indicator of climate change. The physical
    environment has toughened prior generations, what this means for future
    generations is unknown and likely going to involve change and loss of
    some cultural knowledge. Homes are shacks scattered all over the place
    which contrasts to the Cartesian layout of some villages on
    the North Slope post pipeline. Floyd is correct in that it
    has a more diverse population that just the local indigenous people.
    But this does not mean that Floyd has succeeded in gaining full
    acceptance into their community. Floyd does have access in information
    not covered in the touristy guidebooks. He has travelled to other parts
    of his state. This last sentence can't be easily appreciated by
    lower-48ers because roads don't play a part in AK as they do in the
    lower 48. Yet there is substantial Internet penetration. The locals
    are fairly well educated and get around.

    Yes, Barrow is a scientific resource for study and that is about all it is.
    It is like Antarctica that way. I'll take soggy old Juneau any day of the
    week and twice on Sunday.

    I believe that most folks travel around Alaska by airplane. That would not
    work for me. I do not like to fly. Do you not know that being in the air is
    for the birds, being in the water is for the fish and being on the land is
    for us humans.

    Regards,

    Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
    aka
    Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

  14. Hey, how long do they hang around for usually anyway?
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    NYC XYZ said:

    I HATE THEM!!!!

    Premature exclamation?

    Springtime Bill

  15. Dave said:

    Hey, how long do they hang around for usually anyway?
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    I HATE THEM!!!!

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    Springtime Bill


    Varies with the area. Mosquitos breed in standing water, so in swampy
    areas, or areas with standing water, they will be around much longer.
    Black flies breed in running water, which is why there are far more of
    them in the Spring during and just after the snowmelt runoff.

    Bugs will be gone by the time the first serious snowstorm hits.
    Happy trails,
    Gary (net.yogi.bear)
    --
    At the 51st percentile of ursine intelligence

    Gary D. Schwartz, Needham, MA, USA
    Please reply to: garyDOTschwartzATpoboxDOTcom

  16. Gary S. wrote:
    ..

    Quoted message said:

    Black flies breed in running water

    Here in northern Maine, at least, they can breed in wet grass; having a
    prolonged showery spell or even seasonable summery mornings with heavy
    dew can test one's patience and preparedness.

    Pete H

  17. pmhilton said:

    Gary S. wrote:
    .

    Quoted message said:

    Black flies breed in running water

    Here in northern Maine, at least, they can breed in wet grass; having a
    prolonged showery spell or even seasonable summery mornings with heavy
    dew can test one's patience and preparedness.

    Pete H

    Nice to know how versatile the little bloodsuckers are.

    In general, rain followed by warm weather will create an upsurge in
    the bug population. This weekend in NH, for example (guess where I am
    going to be :-( ).
    Happy trails,
    Gary (net.yogi.bear)
    --
    At the 51st percentile of ursine intelligence

    Gary D. Schwartz, Needham, MA, USA
    Please reply to: garyDOTschwartzATpoboxDOTcom

  18. Gary S. said:


    Dave said:

    Hey, how long do they hang around for usually anyway?
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    Quoted message said:

    NYC XYZ wrote:

    > I HATE THEM!!!!

    Premature exclamation?

    Springtime Bill


    Varies with the area. Mosquitos breed in standing water, so in swampy
    areas, or areas with standing water, they will be around much longer.
    Black flies breed in running water, which is why there are far more of
    them in the Spring during and just after the snowmelt runoff.

    Bugs will be gone by the time the first serious snowstorm hits.
    Happy trails,
    Gary (net.yogi.bear)
    --
    At the 51st percentile of ursine intelligence

    Gary D. Schwartz, Needham, MA, USA
    Please reply to: garyDOTschwartzATpoboxDOTcom

    Hi, Gary

    So you're in Needham. That's north shore, IIRC (with Dedham & Danvers?). I
    lived in Boxboro - it's near Concord and often confused with Foxboro- in the
    70's and had my first encounters with black flies there. Bites on knuckles,
    elbows, or ankles are simply awful, last for weeks. I had lived in various
    malarial areas before that so was well acquainted with the mosquito. You folks
    who don't know the black fly: mosquito bites are *nothing* compared to those of
    the black fly.

    --
    Michael

  19. I just read something about carrying a sheet of Bounce fabric softener in
    your pocket can repel those critters.

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    Quoted message said:
    pmhilton said:

    Gary S. wrote:
    .

    Quoted message said:

    Black flies breed in running water

    Here in northern Maine, at least, they can breed in wet grass; having a
    prolonged showery spell or even seasonable summery mornings with heavy
    dew can test one's patience and preparedness.

    Pete H

    Nice to know how versatile the little bloodsuckers are.

    In general, rain followed by warm weather will create an upsurge in
    the bug population. This weekend in NH, for example (guess where I am
    going to be :-( ).
    Happy trails,
    Gary (net.yogi.bear)
    --
    At the 51st percentile of ursine intelligence

    Gary D. Schwartz, Needham, MA, USA
    Please reply to: garyDOTschwartzATpoboxDOTcom

  20. Yeah, it's the "April Fresh" scent in Bounce that does the trick. The bugs
    around here don't come out until May, so when it smells like April they go
    back to sleep. ;-)

    --
    Mike Nowacki
    [email hidden]

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    I just read something about carrying a sheet of Bounce fabric softener in
    your pocket can repel those critters.

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