Subway Pros Are Cool

On 19 Oct 2004 15:46:40 -0700, [email hidden] (mike schatzman)

Quoted message said:

those riders usually aren't making any money, they are spending
tons if it, and usually it comes from a magical checkbook/cc
supplied from parents or maybe they work all winter and live like
monks, whatever.

*** Maybe some people have good paying jobs and supportive
friends and family and make all the time they can to train.
And maybe some of those people self-coach using scientific
approaches...

Or not.

Maybe you are a bitter and jaded queen.

I am getting such a kick out of the select
few that choose to be such [censored] (not mike
necessarily.) For a bunch of skinny, pasty face
legshavers, they sure do swagger as if it's
balls and not chamois filling the spandex.

Jeez people, lighten the [censored] up.

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k e i t h a l e x a n d e r
http://www.nootrope.net
http://www.modernamerican.com
aim: nootrope9 hammer

- - e n d t r a n s m i s s i o n - -

Mike is OBSSESSED!

"$9,000 CASH, like it's the mafia.
You pay 9k for "up to 9K or RETAIL value" of stuff, bike and equipment
is easily 5k, one month of racing is around 3K, and "up to" could mean
much less than 9k.
And you get to keep your uniform!" -Mike S. in a post just minutes ago

More
"A guy I know rode for a D3 team that had a $100,000 budget, they
didn't pay for anything, and the money was gone by july. Another
friend rode for a very well publicized nightmare of a D3 team that had
a 60K budget, lawsuits were filed over the team manager putting rental
vans of the RIDERS credit cards, promising to pay them back, and never
did, the money ran out. My friend did say it was a great experience to
do corestates, and other big races, but it was hardly a professional
team."

"mike schatzman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Somebody emailed me and mentioned that I sounded like I was a
bitter failed cyclist who was picking on D3 teams and riders, and I'm not,
in 1998, if I had $9,000 I would have jumped at the chance, but
only if it wasn't publicized to the world.
I wouldn't want everyone else knowing, because how could
I go out on rides and impress people with my pro-ness if they knew
I paid for it.
but alas, I was too sucky for even the lowliest of D3 teams and I
knew it.
I wasn't saying the teams or the riders sucked, I was saying that
those riders usually aren't making any money, they are spending
tons if it, and usually it comes from a magical checkbook/cc
supplied from parents or maybe they work all winter and live like
monks, whatever.
So the "I support myself with mad prize money" is usually
total [censored].
And many small Italian and Belgian run the exactly same way,
you bring money or sponsors or both to the team,
they just don't announce it to everyone online, with shocking
legal exactness.
Pay to play I guess.
But defensiveness rules here, so I'm sure I'm worse than [censored]
and crit pro and decanio put together now.
How much to get on Postal?