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Uboat said:

See, I knew Patrick's name. He was on TV and in the newspapers and big cycling mags (winning, not pedal) during those years.

And he never claimed to be a coach/journalist/manager/marketing/organizer/whatever. He is not a jack of all trades master of none; he's a damn fine writer and commentator.

What will happen, Mr. Arzouian, when you find out you don't have that CCA job? I can't honestly believe with all the [censored] you post everywhere that you honestly think you have a chance in hell. Do you?

Patrick was not on TV before 1993, only after. Don't believe me, ask him. Obviously you were not around. During those years Patrick was interviewing me and my team to write his stories. As he said, he was a spectator and reporter. I was also writing about cycling before Van de Wille was. I was writing in Pedal before Sadavoy owned it.

If I do not get the CCA job I will do exactly what I have been doing for the last three year as of this July 24, I will be noting all the mistakes made by the CCA and pointing out its failures, here and to the media directly. Why would I do anything else if my efforts to assist are ignored and rebuffed?

My point, Mr. Arzouian, was that Patrick was on TV because he's good at what he does. He made it. He is a good journalist, a great writer. He can spell and construct sentences.

There's no way in hell that the CCA will hire you. If they know the stories about you that we all do, there's no way. And I'm sure they are familiar with them.

Good day Sir.

Eddie Arzouian said:

Patrick was not on TV before 1993, only after. Don't believe me, ask him. Obviously you were not around. During those years Patrick was interviewing me and my team to write his stories. As he said, he was a spectator and reporter. I was also writing about cycling before Van de Wille was. I was writing in Pedal before Sadavoy owned it.

If I do not get the CCA job I will do exactly what I have been doing for the last three year as of this July 24, I will be noting all the mistakes made by the CCA and pointing out its failures, here and to the media directly. Why would I do anything else if my efforts to assist are ignored and rebuffed?

Uboat said:

I can't believe he honestly thinks he will get this job at the CCA. Can you imagine what they said when they got his resume? Wish I could have been there.

As I wrote earlier I have a recommendation from a well-respected, long-standing member of the cycling community and Chairperson of a CCA committee. I also have the recommendation of a Director at a Provincial Association. So, Somebody seems to be taking it quite seriously.

There is absolutely no question that I can do the job and do it extremely well. The only question is whether the CCA will look past petty personal differences with people who probably will not even be around next season.

When you say "CCA" you make it sound like a huge organization. Of course they know all my stories, they all know me and have for years. (except for Lacelle and Adams who were just hired).

I have known most CCA Presidents since 1975. Did you know that CCA President has a son who is the President of Quebec Liberal Party Policy Committee and he is married to Claude Ryan's daughter. They are family friends. Marc Lemay who was President of the CCA about 15 years ago is now a Bloc MP in Ottawa.

Do you know how many CCA Directors and coaches I have seen come and go? Almsot always leavign the CCA worse than when they got there.

I managed a Canadian national team project for the CCA as far back as 1987 or '88. I hired Kris Westwood to ride for me in some races in 1991 or 1992. I have spoken to Brett Stewart numerous times over the years including all last year and this year. I have no problems wiht Brett. Remember I publicly supported him as the new COO. He is one of those people Patrick says never gets back to me.

Eric Van den Eynde coached me on his Quebec Provincial teams. I even raced against Eric, I beat him as Junior in some races when he was a Senior (he beat me back of course in others)

I have met at least three or four Provincial Presidents. I like to think I get along with two of them rather well. I have known Lesley Tomlinson since 1990 or earlier. I would have hired her to race for me when we were thinking about expanding Evian to a women 's team in 1991. Uboat, you don't know jack. You don't know me, either.

I have known Rob Jones since he used to hide in the woods to get pictures when he and I both wrote for Pedal probably before Van de Wille had been to his first bike race, though maybe he went as a kid since he seems to have some Belgian roots.

Do not presume to question me, Uboat.

PS Patrick, I have no interest at all in who you did your two other races for. Two races? Who cares? Who trains for two years to do two (or four) races? Are you afraid of a peloton? I did about 60 to 80 races PER year for five years as Senior, [censored], as Minime we did 20 races a year. Evian guys did 80 to 100 races a season.

You shouldn't embarrass yourself by even bringing it up.

I don't think you need to know much to see that no company, federation or corporation would ever rehire someone like you, Sir, after your string of firings, weapons/drugs/harassment charges, and verbal assaults on these forums. I'm sure there's more you have done that we don't even know about.

But, I guess we can both see in a few weeks.

Good day Sir, I have a family and life to attend to.

Eddie Arzouian said:

As I wrote earlier I have a recommendation from a well-respected, long-standing member of the cycling community and Chairperson of a CCA committee. I also have the recommendation of a Director at a Provincial Association. So, Somebody seems to be taking it quite seriously.

There is absolutely no question that I can do the job and do it extremely well. The only question is whether the CCA will look past petty personal differences with people who probably will not even be around next season.

When you say "CCA" you make it sound like a huge organization. Of course they know all my stories, they all know me (except for Lacellel and Adamsewho wer hjsut hired and have for years. )

I managed a Canadian national team project for the CCA as far back as 1987 or '88. I hired Kris Westwood to ride for me in some races in 1991 or 1992. I have spoken to Brett Stewart numerous times over the years including all last year and this year. I hav eno problems wiht Brett. Remebr I pulbcicly suported him as the new COO. He is one of those people Patrick says never gets back to me. Eric Van den Eynde coached me on his Quebec Provincial teams. I even raced against Eric, I beat him as Junior in some races when he was a Senior (he beat me back of course in others)

I have met at least three or four Provincial Presidents. I like to think I get along with two of them rather well. I have known Lesley Tomlinson since 1990 or earlier. I would have hired her to race for me when we were thinking about expanding Evian to a women 's team in 1991. Uboat, you don't know jack. You don't know me, either.

I have known Rob Jones since he used to hide in the woods to get pictures when he and I both wrote for Pedal probablybefore Van de Wille had been to his first bike race, though maybe he went as a kid since he seems to have some Belgian roots.

PS Patrick, I have no interest at all in who you did your two other races for. Two races? Who cares? Who trains for two years to do two (or four) races? Are you afraid of a peloton? I did about 60 to 80 races PER year for five years as Senior, [censored], as Minime we did 20 races a year. Evian guys did 80 to 100 races a season.

You shouldn't embarrass yourself by even bringing it up.

Uboat said:

I don't think you need to know much to see that no company, federation or corporation would ever rehire someone like you, Sir, after your string of firings, weapons/drugs/harassment charges, and verbal assaults on these forums. .

You might want to toss "alleged" in there somewhere since the charges were tossed.

This is a written forum so verbal abuse is very difficult. I could absue you verbaly all I want on this forum or CC or Pedal, you will never hear a thing.

1. The charges are not "alleged", are they? You were at some point charged, although like you say the charges were withdrawn for whatever reason.

2. Your definition of "verbal" is narrower than it needs to be. You could argue that a forum like this is entirely a verbal discussion.

3. I don't bring up my races, you do. You never stop. Like it's the only thing that matters. What does it matter how many races I saw as a kid, at the old Paul-Sauve... who cares? You fight on qualifications because it's the only ground on which you win. In terms of ideas, input, constructive attitude, etc. you lose, so all you do is question other people's right to speak based on track record in the sport. In terms of track record, do you list your failures? Are there any? I assume you'll say no...

And thx very much for the kind words about my writing, Uboat.

Eddie Arzouian said:

You might want to toss "alleged" in there somewhere since the charges were tossed.

This is a written forum so verbal abuse is very difficult. I could absue you verbaly all I want on this forum or CC or Pedal, you will never hear a thing.

[font=Bookman Old Style]"In terms of ideas, input, constructive attitude, etc.", if I see any from you I will let you know.

I proposed a National Crit Championship for two years. We finally got it back. Did you do that? I had to listen to silly critics on CC Forum for months go on about unknown UCI [censored], simply arguing against the Official Championship to contradict what I had to say. There was no legitimate reason not to have our own Crit Championships like the US, it was a no-brainer, but even that took years to change.

I have commented on the Newfoundland Proposal, it is right here on this forum. Have you commented on that?

I have been calling for merchandising sales for the CCA for two years. Does that link work on their web site yet? (I have not checked it in a week but I'm assuming it does not. If it does Halleluiah).

I have suggested the Authorized Bike Shop Network affiliated with the CCA.

I have made dozens of constructive, concrete suggestions.

You, on the other hand, Patrick, offer pie-in-the-sky philosophical hypotheticals.

Big help they are.

You cannot be blamed though, you work in PR, you're all about hot-air. My experience is in actually getting things done and putting something on the road.

You discuss policy.

I'll get things done.

You can write about it and interview me once things have been actually been accomplished.
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Oh, yes, I forgot the sheer hypocrisy of this statement from Van de Wille:

"all you (Ed does) do is question other people's right to speak based on track record in the sport." - Van de Wille wrote.

I question nobody's right to speak, you do that,

"I never got you banned from any forum - you've tried to blame all your sorry failures on me, at one time or other - but I do happen to agree wholeheartedly with it. " Van de Wille.

You are such a hypocrite, Van de Wille.

I do not want to see anybody banned for their opinion, for their lies maybe, but not their opinion and certainly not for posting words I had written myself which is what caused you to ask Pedal to ban me, which they did.

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Patty the Lapsed Canuck said:

I agree with ditching him: the "archive" of (Van de Wille's) comments that he finds silly, which he presumably keeps to try to screw me off at every occasion (I can't think of any constructive reason to keep one) is the last straw for me.

Posted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 4:39 "[/font]

No, no he didn't get me banned, he says, but he asked for it and it happenned, did it. Just another comment by Van de Wille not be be believed.

I maintain everybody's right to an opinion but I also defend my right to prove them wrong when they are.

Just for the record... (Google: Arzouian charges)

Quoted post said:

PUBLICATION: Montreal Gazette
DATE: 2002.01.30
EDITION: Final
SECTION: News
PAGE: A4
COLUMN: In Brief
SOURCE: The Gazette
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E-mailer arrested
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A 40-year-old man was arrested at his home in Saint-Anicet last night on
allegations that he had harassed journalists at several media outlets,
including The Gazette, CNN and the Globe and Mail.
Ed Arzouian faces charges of mischief and criminal harassment, as well as
possession of illicit drugs and a loaded <firearm>, said Det.-Sgt. Vincent
Rozon of the Montreal police. "It's a new crime but we intend to prosecute
people for disturbing computer systems and E-mail harassment - sending 500
E-mails to the same person," Rozon said.
Arzouian is to appear at the Montreal courthouse this afternoon.

Eddie Arzouian said:

[font=Bookman Old Style] My experience is in actually getting things done and putting something on the road

I'll get things done.
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Funny, I thought your recent experience involved getting fired as Competition Coordinator of the 2003 World Championships, and then losing a lawsuit against the CCA?

Yes, after successfully putting on the 2003 CDN Nationals and completeng most of my Worlds work months ahead of schedule and far in advance of everybody else.

Here is part of comment by somebody else who worked at Hamilton 2003, if I get that person's permission maybe I will post the full letter and their name:

"[font=Arial]I worked also at the 2003 world cycling championships, and my experience corresponds closely to Ed’s view of the organization. I can vouch for the accuracy of his claims. His suggestion, for example, to hire [/font][font=Arial][font=Arial]Kris Westwood[/font][/font][font=Arial][font=Arial] as the media relations officer, for which he was chastised, would have been infinitely better than the unilingual athletics journalist that was hired, and obtained so little exposure for cycling in [/font][/font][font=Arial][font=Arial]Ontario[/font][/font][font=Arial][font=Arial] leading up to the event."[/font][/font]
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As for the old press clipping, it is just that old news. Ask yourself why the news of the charges being dismissed wasn't covered by The Gazette/CP? That would not have fit in to their smear campaing, that's why.

Even Van de Wille acknowledges that, "
Van de Wille: 1. ...You were at some point charged, although like you say the charges were withdrawn for whatever reason.

You can continue the smear campaign if you want but the truth will eventually win out.

So,

The charges were dropped--but instead was there not a restraining order against the entire newspaper or something, for a year?

So you sue the CCA, get fired from the worlds committee, and think you will get a job with them a few years later? Are you joking? And after all this rabblerousing, blasting Kinash and his home province, for example?

It's no wonder threads like this get going. It's not that we want to try and convince Ed he's nuts, we'd rather drop it--but he keeps defending himself in such crazy ways it's hard not to keep writing about it.

Furthermore, if I'm not mistaken, drugs were found when the police charged him. Do we want a drug addict working for the CCA?

Good day sirs.

Eddie Arzouian said:

You might want to toss "alleged" in there somewhere since the charges were tossed.

This is a written forum so verbal abuse is very difficult. I could absue you verbaly all I want on this forum or CC or Pedal, you will never hear a thing.

So you are posting someone's letter (albet without their name, for now) without their permission? You sound like a pretty trustworthy guy, Ed. Love to have you as a friend.

Eddie Arzouian said:

Yes, after successfully putting on the 2003 CDN Nationals and completeng most of my Worlds work months ahead of schedule and far in advance of everybody else.

Here is part of comment by somebody else who worked at Hamilton 2003, if I get that person's permission maybe I will post the full letter and their name:

"[font=Arial]I worked also at the 2003 world cycling championships, and my experience corresponds closely to Ed’s view of the organization. I can vouch for the accuracy of his claims. His suggestion, for example, to hire [/font][font=Arial][font=Arial]Kris Westwood[/font][/font][font=Arial][font=Arial] as the media relations officer, for which he was chastised, would have been infinitely better than the unilingual athletics journalist that was hired, and obtained so little exposure for cycling in [/font][/font][font=Arial][font=Arial]Ontario[/font][/font][font=Arial][font=Arial] leading up to the event."[/font][/font]
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[font=Arial][font=Arial]As for the old press clipping, it is just that old news. Ask yourself why the news of the charges being dismissed wasn't covered by The Gazette/CP? That would not have fit in to their smear campaing, that's why.[/font][/font]
[font=Arial][font=Arial][/font][/font]
[font=Arial][font=Arial]Even Van de Wille acknowledges that, "[/font][/font][font=Arial][font=Arial]
Van de Wille1. ...You were at some point charged, although like you say the charges were withdrawn for whatever reason.

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I'd love to see the cover letter for Ed's resume for the CCA job.

Dear Sirs,

You may remember me for suing you recently. Also, I was fired by the Worlds group two years ago. On top of that I've been active blasting your president and his province, and spamming almost everyone in cycling.

I've had several jobs in cycling. I'm fortunate enough to have been fired from all of them. I hold the record for being banned on websites and forums, and there is a massive conspiracy against me.

I'm quite wellknown in the media as I was charged with email harassment after drugs and weapons was found in my house. Don't believe me? Google my name.

If you don't hire me you are really really stupid and I will spam you all.

YOU BETTER HIRE ME!

Best Regards,

Ed Arzouian

Uboat said:

So you are posting someone's letter (albet without their name, for now) without their permission? You sound like a pretty trustworthy guy, Ed. Love to have you as a friend.

It was a letter addresed to and intended for numerous people, just not necessarily for you or publication, yet.

As for these old claims and other accusations, keep bringing them up if you like. It has been more than three years and nothing ever came of them. Toss them around if you want, you have no knowledge of anything, certainly no proof of anything and nothing to substantiate your lies.

You cannot address any issues or engage in any discussions you attack me personally in anonymity.

That's fine, I'm used to dealing with you cowards and nobody can take people who hide and make false accusations for the shadows very seriously.

I'd say a restraining order for a year against multiple parties is something--re the charges.

So do you aren't denying the drugs and weapons?

Eddie Arzouian said:

It was a letter addresed to and intended for numerous people, just not necessarily for you or publication, yet.

As for these old claims and other accusations, keep bringing them up if you like. It has been more than three years and nothing ever came of them. Toss them around if you want, you have no knowledge of anything, certainly no proof of anything and nothing to substantiate your lies.

You cannot address any issues or engage in any discussions you attack me personally in anonymity.

That's fine, I'm used to dealing with you cowards and nobody can take people who hide and make false accusations for the shadows very seriously.

These aren't "personal" attacks. All these points prove that having you as an employee is possibly the worst idea.

Eddie Arzouian said:

It was a letter addresed to and intended for numerous people, just not necessarily for you or publication, yet.

As for these old claims and other accusations, keep bringing them up if you like. It has been more than three years and nothing ever came of them. Toss them around if you want, you have no knowledge of anything, certainly no proof of anything and nothing to substantiate your lies.

You cannot address any issues or engage in any discussions you attack me personally in anonymity.

That's fine, I'm used to dealing with you cowards and nobody can take people who hide and make false accusations for the shadows very seriously.

Uboat said:

I'd love to see the cover letter for Ed's resume for the CCA job.

All you had to do was ask, unlike you cowards I have nothing to hide and fear nobody:

To: [email hidden]
Cc: [email hidden] ; 'Brett Stewart'
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 11:34 AM
Subject: Director, Marketing Operations

[font=Bookman Old Style]To the Canadian Cycling Association,[/font]
[font=Bookman Old Style][/font]
[font=Bookman Old Style]Without a doubt I will be the most qualified, experienced and talented applicant you will get for the Director of Marketing Operations position. I have already negotiated well over $1,000,000 in CDN cycling sponsorship. My bio is already on your web site: [/font]
[font=Bookman Old Style][/font]
[font=Bookman Old Style]canadian-cycling.com11%20 %20Three%20new%20staff%20at%20Hamilton%202003%20Worlds.htmOpen ↗[/font]
[font=Bookman Old Style][/font]
[font=Bookman Old Style]canadian-cycling.com11%20 %20HAMILTON%202003.htmOpen ↗[/font]
[font=Bookman Old Style][/font]
[font=Bookman Old Style]One would think that would be enough to get the job but I know it isn't. [/font]
[font=Bookman Old Style][/font]
[font=Bookman Old Style]It will also require people setting aside personal prejudice and bias. Many things have been said and written about me. Most are lies, falsehoods or inaccuracies. I suggest you speak with me directly if you want truth and insight.[/font]
[font=Bookman Old Style][/font]
[font=Bookman Old Style]I can step into the position and hit the ground running. There will be little need for a learning curve, I'm already familiar with almost everything there is to know apart from BMX details and your secret contracts. I have already articulated numerous marketing projects and potential sources of revenue for the CCA. I am aware of most of the CCA's current plans. In fact, you could say I have already implemented an important marketing step for you: I have little doubt that it was my efforts that re-instated the national criterium championships, something that should have been done long ago.[/font]
[font=Bookman Old Style][/font]
[font=Bookman Old Style][/font]
[font=Bookman Old Style]Two years ago the CCA had a chance to do the right thing. I was the only person at Hamilton 2003 who was looking after the interests of the sport and the CCA above my own. The CCA chose to ignore that. It cost me dearly.[/font]
[font=Bookman Old Style][/font]
[font=Bookman Old Style]In the subsequent two years the CCA has had the chance to again do the right thing and it has chosen not to. Years were wasted, opportunities lost, potential compromised.[/font]
[font=Bookman Old Style][/font]
[font=Bookman Old Style]Now the CCA has another opportunity. It should take it.[/font]
[font=Bookman Old Style][/font]
[font=Bookman Old Style]Hiring me would send the message the CCA is serious about making changes. It is very likely hiring me would be mainstream, national sports news, or I'll make it so.[/font]
[font=Bookman Old Style][/font]
[font=Bookman Old Style]There are numerous advantages to hiring me. There are also numerous disadvantages to not hiring me.[/font]
[font=Bookman Old Style][/font]
[font=Bookman Old Style]Do the right thing.[/font]
[font=Bookman Old Style][/font]
[font=Bookman Old Style][/font]
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[font=Bookman Old Style][font='Bookman Old Style'][/font][/font]
[font=Bookman Old Style][font='Bookman Old Style']Best regard,[/font][/font]
[font=Bookman Old Style][font='Bookman Old Style']Ed Arzouian.[/font][/font]
[font=Bookman Old Style][/font]

Not good to have spelling mistakes in your cover letter, but anyway.

Thanks for the cover letter--was a great laugh. I've never seen a cover letter told the company they are idiots if they don't hire you.

Good luck Ed, and Good day sirs.

Eddie Arzouian said:

All you had to do was ask, unlike you cowards I have nothing to hide and fear nobody:

To: [email hidden]
Cc: [email hidden] ; 'Brett Stewart'
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 11:34 AM
Subject: Director, Marketing Operations

[font=Bookman Old Style]To the Canadian Cycling Association,[/font]

[font=Bookman Old Style]Without a doubt I will be the most qualified, experienced and talented applicant you will get for the Director of Marketing Operations position. I have already negotiated well over $1,000,000 in CDN cycling sponsorship. My bio is already on your web site: [/font]

[font=Bookman Old Style]canadian-cycling.com11%20 %20Three%20new%20staff%20at%20Hamilton%202003%20Worlds.htmOpen ↗[/font]

[font=Bookman Old Style]canadian-cycling.com11%20 %20HAMILTON%202003.htmOpen ↗[/font]

[font=Bookman Old Style]One would think that would be enough to get the job but I know it isn't. [/font]

[font=Bookman Old Style]It will also require people setting aside personal prejudice and bias. Many things have been said and written about me. Most are lies, falsehoods or inaccuracies. I suggest you speak with me directly if you want truth and insight.[/font]

[font=Bookman Old Style]I can step into the position and hit the ground running. There will be little need for a learning curve, I'm already familiar with almost everything there is to know apart from BMX details and your secret contracts. I have already articulated numerous marketing projects and potential sources of revenue for the CCA. I am aware of most of the CCA's current plans. In fact, you could say I have already implemented an important marketing step for you: I have little doubt that it was my efforts that re-instated the national criterium championships, something that should have been done long ago.[/font]

[font=Bookman Old Style]Two years ago the CCA had a chance to do the right thing. I was the only person at Hamilton 2003 who was looking after the interests of the sport and the CCA above my own. The CCA chose to ignore that. It cost me dearly.[/font]

[font=Bookman Old Style]In the subsequent two years the CCA has had the chance to again do the right thing and it has chosen not to. Years were wasted, opportunities lost, potential compromised.[/font]

[font=Bookman Old Style]Now the CCA has another opportunity. It should take it.[/font]

[font=Bookman Old Style]Hiring me would send the message the CCA is serious about making changes. It is very likely hiring me would be mainstream, national sports news, or I'll make it so.[/font]

[font=Bookman Old Style]There are numerous advantages to hiring me. There are also numerous disadvantages to not hiring me.[/font]

[font=Bookman Old Style]Do the right thing.[/font]

[font=Bookman Old Style][font=Bookman Old Style][/font][/font]
[font=Bookman Old Style][font=Bookman Old Style][/font][/font]
[font=Bookman Old Style][font=Bookman Old Style]Best regard,[/font][/font]
[font=Bookman Old Style][font=Bookman Old Style]Ed Arzouian.[/font][/font]

Uboat said:

I'd say a restraining order for a year against multiple parties is something--re the charges.

So do you aren't denying the drugs and weapons?

I am denying everything about that report.

I would also point out your further lies. There was no, " restraining order for a year against multiple parties". That is a complete lie.

There was a peace-bond for one year The Gazette and I AGREED upon. It was the cheapest and most expedious solution. I did not feel like spending another $10,000 or $15,000 to defend against charges that would be dismissed if I just agreed not to write to The Gazette for a year. What did I care? The Gazette agreed because they knew they had no case and would look very stupid in pursuing the matter. Do you think if they thought they could have won they would have backed down? They were not even paying anything since the Crown was. Do you think they would have done me any favours? They were out to screw me. They dropped it because they had little choice.

I have said it numeorus times, I had a valid Firearms permit, I live out in the country, almost everybody here has a rifle or two and a shotgun. The police chose to ignore the valid permit, it made for better headlines. They said and I quote, "We can charge you with whatever we like. Your lawyer can get the charges dismissed". That is exactly what happenned. In the meantime it made for better headlines.

Do you think this would be the first time police manipulated the facts?

If anybody doubts me, I have the valid permit (now expired) and will fax you a copy if you want to see it.

All the story, every piece of it, was fabricated or distorted to suit their purposes.

You can bring it up all you want. I will always set the record straight.