Stuff sacs?

David W.E. Roberts said:

I am finding that spare layers tend to take up too much space when packed
in and on my small back pack.

A stuffsac doesn't necessarily help /that/ much unless it's compressing
the item a fair bit. Since the rucksack itself is bag you might as well
use /it/ and the other contents to do the compression. Another problem
of stuffsacs is they make all your things into basically cylinders,
which don't necessarily fill space as well as jackets etc. just stuffed
into crannies.

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I also carry my waterproof strapped underneath my pack, where it tends to
get dirty quite quickly.

Stuff it between a fully waterproof liner and the actual rucksack wall.
That way it will stay clean and won't get anything wet, will be easy
to locate, and since it'll be basically flat and compressed by the bag's
other contents it will fill space more effectively than if you put it in
a wee bag.

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Plastic carrier bags aren't suitable because I need to be able to compress
the clothing then tightly fix the neck of the sack.

Another approach is just put a webbing strap with a ladderlock buckle
around them. Stuffsacs only strike me as a major win for highly
compressible kit like downies and sleeping bags. Otherwise they're as
much organisational as anything else, and stuff like fleece pullovers
can generally just be squeezed in at the bottom to compress them
reasonably effectively anyway. Also, stuffsacs really have to be sized
for the item in question to optimise the packing volume, as opposed to
just the organisation side (i.e., "all my toiletries should be in the
wee orange bag" rather than "they're in this 40 litre bag /somewhere/"😉.

I find the organisational side is genuinely useful, but it doesn't
address your problem, particularly.

Pete.
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David W.E. Roberts said:

Hi,

anyone know a good cheap source of stuff sacs - those nylon things with a
draw string top?

I am finding that spare layers tend to take up too much space when packed
in and on my small back pack.
I also carry my waterproof strapped underneath my pack, where it tends to
get dirty quite quickly.

Plastic carrier bags aren't suitable because I need to be able to compress
the clothing then tightly fix the neck of the sack.

TIA
Dave R

You could always talk to 'stoptous' on ebay. They have an ebay shop

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Rambling-and-Walking-Supplies

and sell realtively cheap stuff sacks.

Geoff

David W.E. Roberts said:

Hi,

anyone know a good cheap source of stuff sacs - those nylon things with a
draw string top?

I am finding that spare layers tend to take up too much space when packed
in and on my small back pack.
I also carry my waterproof strapped underneath my pack, where it tends to
get dirty quite quickly.

Plastic carrier bags aren't suitable because I need to be able to compress
the clothing then tightly fix the neck of the sack.

TIA
Dave R

I've just purchased a 30 litre Arktis waterproof stuff sack on Ebay,
cost me 6 squids + postage of £1.20. So far I've found it extremely
useful.

There are smaller 'ditty-bag' type stuff-sacks available, made from a
netting type nylon material, definately not waterproof, but very
useful for stowing those smaller pieces of clothing and equipment one
might carry into a compact rucksack.

Look around some of the camping and outdoor suppliers or on Ebay,
you'll be surprised at what is available these days. We're spoilt for
choice.

Its really all a matter of what you want to carry, how best to pack it
into the rucksack of your choice and working out the best fit
possible. Certainly if you wanted to stow your watreproof jacket in a
stuffsack, then this could be accommodated outside a small daypack or
rucksack, by the use of quick release stowage straps.

Nigel

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David W.E. Roberts said:

I am finding that spare layers tend to take up too much space when

packed

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in and on my small back pack.

A stuffsac doesn't necessarily help /that/ much unless it's compressing
the item a fair bit. Since the rucksack itself is bag you might as well
use /it/ and the other contents to do the compression. Another problem
of stuffsacs is they make all your things into basically cylinders,
which don't necessarily fill space as well as jackets etc. just stuffed
into crannies.

Quoted message said:

I also carry my waterproof strapped underneath my pack, where it tends

to

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get dirty quite quickly.

Stuff it between a fully waterproof liner and the actual rucksack wall.
That way it will stay clean and won't get anything wet, will be easy
to locate, and since it'll be basically flat and compressed by the bag's
other contents it will fill space more effectively than if you put it in
a wee bag.

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As Nigel said:

" Certainly if you wanted to stow your watreproof jacket in a
stuffsack, then this could be accommodated outside a small daypack or
rucksack, by the use of quick release stowage straps."

My view is similar i.e. if you want to carry your waterproof outside a small
daypack by the use of quick release stowage straps (as I do) then you could
stow it in a stuffsack (which would help to keep it clean).

I use the daypack as an all purpose item, including carrying shopping when I
walk to/past the shops.
I find that carrying the waterproof outside is the most effective
solution. - it is always available and you don't have to worry about
unpacking/repacking to keep it at the top of your rucksack when you are
shopping.

Similarly I think that it would be easier to reorganise the pack if my
Polartec 100 hoody (ALS) was in a stuffsack instead of floating free.
Different requirements than for a day walking in the hills :-)

My TNF Redpoint jacket folds up into its own pocket, so no problem there.

Cheers

Dave R