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Stuff in Shimano's catalog

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  1. At my last bike race, Shimano had a little booth set up, complete with
    impressive metal foam-lined case for storing and displaying a complete
    Ultegra component group (ooh, shiny).

    (Full Disclosure: my race bike runs Dura-Ace cranks, Ultegra BB,
    cassette and fder, and Veloce rder and brifters. In other words, it is
    fully Shimangnoloed, and it works great.)

    More importantly, they had their 2005 bike components brochure, a
    91-page tome full of bits and pieces I had never imagined.

    Okay, so you already know about Ultegra 10, Hone, Hollowtech II LX, and
    the Octalink Tiagra and Sora upgrades.

    But did you know about Capreo, Cyber Nexus, or Nexave Intego?

    Capreo:

    http://cycle.shimano-eu.com/catalog/cycle/products/group.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3E
    folder_id=2534374302034908&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=1408474395181175&bmUID=
    1120364187058

    http://tinyurl.com/9nkss

    A 9-speed flat-bar group for small-wheel bikes. Aside from the nifty
    double chain guard on the front, it offers a very unusual feature: a
    9-26 9v rear cassette.

    Yes. 9 tooth rear cog. Shimano claims the cassette works only on the
    matching Capreo rear hub, and vice versa.

    I can't be sure, but the tech PDF seems to indicate the trick is done by
    having the last two cogs mesh with splines on the next-largest cog in
    succession, not the hub itself. The works is held together with a
    super-special lockring which is engaged from the outside. The special
    tool is the TL-HG09 wrench from Shimano.

    http://cycle.shimano-eu.com/media/cycling/techdocs/en/bikecomponents/CS/E
    V-CS-HG70-S_v2_m56577569830556415.pdf

    Shimano really doesn't want you to use this setup on anything with
    wheels larger than 20". A better question might be why you don't just
    use a bigger front ring and a 11-x cassette, but I guess sometimes
    compactness matters. Maybe they should look into Shelbroco's Nanodrive.

    Cyber Nexus:

    http://cycle.shimano-eu.com/catalog/cycle/products/group.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3E
    folder_id=2534374302034895&PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524441762509&ASSORTMENT
    %3C%3East_id=1408474395181175&bmUID=1120366322976

    http://tinyurl.com/8jxls

    Seems to be an all-electronic comfort/utility bike group with some
    features ranging from wacky to wild.

    www.smover.com

    Short precis? electronic (possibly automatic) shifting of a Nexus-8 hub.
    Computer-controlled (?) suspension fork. All power is generated by a
    front generator hub, so onboard power storage is just a thingy that is
    either a small battery or a large capacitor bank. It makes my head spin.

    Nexave Intego:

    http://cycle.shimano-eu.com/catalog/cycle/products/group.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3E
    folder_id=2534374302029733&PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524441762509&ASSORTMENT
    %3C%3East_id=1408474395181175&bmUID=1120366992731

    http://tinyurl.com/8bnv3

    Fortunately, modern medicine and physiotherapy offer many effective
    treatments for intego, and it is no longer the--whoops, that's lumbago.
    Intego is Shimano's duplication of the SRAM DualDrive: the inefficiency
    of a 3-speed hub combined with the maintenance and fussiness of an
    8-speed derailer drivetrain. I kid, of course. The market for
    Intego/Dualdrive seems to be bikes with full front chainguards. The
    proper treatment for Impetigo is wound cleaning and antibiotics. If I'm
    reading the brochure right, there's an electronically auto-shifted
    version, too.

    Yadda yadda yadda. Among the other odd bits and pieces, Shimano is now
    selling a "2200" flat-bar road group. Nothing special, but it might
    start showing up on some of those very cheap road bikes that have been
    sighted recently. There's also an interesting odd bit, the Shimano
    ST-R500. This is a "high-quality" 8-speed brifter, by which you may read
    that it uses the control levers seen on everything except Sora. It looks
    to me a lot like the old RSX levers, and I assume they mean it as a
    service replacement for orphaned 8v bikes (except Dura-Ace 8, which is
    super-orphaned). As Sheldon Brown frequently points out, this probably
    isn't the best call, since the shift levers are the expensive part of an
    8-to-9 (or even 8-to-10) upgrade; chain and cogs are wear items, so
    you're not losing much by replacing them if you're already committed to
    shifters.

    Finally, there's something in the comfort groups they're calling
    "LinkGlide" (Shimano suffers from the same internal capitalisation
    disease which has afflicted so many other companies; there is no known
    cure), which seems to be an extra-clever HyperGlide-style tooth
    profiling aimed at reducing "shifting shock." They have a little
    dimensionless HG-vs.-LinkGlide graph in the brochure which is TOTALLY
    CONVINCING and claims shock is reduced by 70%.

    So, that's just what I found in Shimano's catalog. A lot of this stuff
    is Euro-oriented, some of it is deeply confusing, and a few bits were
    even informative. I hope this interested you as well.

    Share & Enjoy,

    --
    Ryan Cousineau [email hidden] http://www.wiredcola.com/
    "I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics
    to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos

  2. On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 22:31:52 -0700, Ryan Cousineau <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Yadda yadda yadda. Among the other odd bits and pieces, Shimano is now
    selling a "2200" flat-bar road group. Nothing special, but it might
    start showing up on some of those very cheap road bikes that have been
    sighted recently. There's also an interesting odd bit, the Shimano
    ST-R500. This is a "high-quality" 8-speed brifter, by which you may read
    that it uses the control levers seen on everything except Sora. It looks
    to me a lot like the old RSX levers, and I assume they mean it as a
    service replacement for orphaned 8v bikes (except Dura-Ace 8, which is
    super-orphaned). As Sheldon Brown frequently points out, this probably

    DA8 isn't all *that* orphaned: If I get it right, you can use DA9 shifters
    (well, any 9s shifters) and they'll pull the right cable, and you can use
    any Shimano RD with alternate cable routing in a DA8 system as
    replacement.

    Jasper

  3. On Sat, 02 Jul 2005 22:31:52 -0700, Ryan Cousineau <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    Yadda yadda yadda.

    Gee whiz, Ryan- the HPV and recumbent folk have been talking about that
    stuff (particularly Capreo) for two years. The 9-tooth cog really makes
    sense on 20-inch drive wheels since chainrings (and front shifting) are
    more "normal".

    For instance, an Air Friday:
    http://www.bikefriday.com/bikespecs99.cfm?BF=2&GP=974&CAT=2
    would need something like a 64/52/39 chainring with 11-28 cassette
    setup in order to match the 52/42/30 and 9-26 cassette that it comes
    with. Front shifting quality with extra-large chainrings is something
    folding-bike riders and recumbent riders have always struggled with.

    FWIW: a lot of the the stuff is European- and/or Asian-market only. I'd
    really like to get my hands on a Cyber Nexus FH-C811 rear generator
    hub: http://tinyurl.com/cz3va - with disc mount- but only because I'm a
    weird bike parts freak. And I'd like to have a non-battery headlight
    for winter commutes. And disc brakes would be cool, too.

    FWIW part 2: From the Shimano Europe home page, you can download the
    Shimano catalog in PDF format in 14 languages.

    Jeff

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