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  1. Most of the posters on this group probably know by now that Steve Kramer is
    a spammer, always on the lookout to promote himself and his business. And
    you probably know that being a conceited little man with an *enormous* ego,
    he also loves to blow his own trumpet!

    Anyway, here he is in action:

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    http://www.digicamsoft.com/9A1FC1731F624D1F9DBCA42B781FF8A60A6594E11.html

    Quoted message said:


    How many people make a living in this NG from photography? What do you
    specialise in?

    Travel, nature, and travel related advertising photography (hotel and
    resort brochures) for national and international magazines and
    calendars.
    http://www.photoenvisions.com/
    I also write a monthly magazine column about photography,
    http://www.gmorning.info/photo_vision.htm
    and run classes to teach our tourists how to use the other three buttons
    on their cameras with ond-day photo classes and photo safaris.
    http://www.photoenvisions.com/Advert.htm
    Of course this last part will only work well for you if you live in a
    tourist rich location. Fortunately, northern Thailand is a
    photographer's paradise, and I live at the last stop of the rail line
    running north. Beyond this there be dragons!

    Steve Kramer
    "PhotoEnvisions" Freelance Photography
    Chiang Mai, Thailand
    http://www.photoenvisions.com

    --
    "The voyage of discovery lies not in seeking new horizons, but in seeing
    with new eyes." - Marcel Proust

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    **I just loved that little ditty, tagged onto the end of his sales pitch:

    "Fortunately, northern Thailand is a photographer's paradise, and I live at
    the last stop of the rail line running north. Beyond this there be dragons!"

    Beyond this there be dragons????? ROFL!!!!!! Cheesy or what??? Almost beats
    his "I know where the elephants lay down..." and "Through the forests, I
    wander..." skits!

    And a follow up from the same group:

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    Bill Hilton said:


    Quoted message said:

    Peter writes ...

    How many people make a living in this NG from photography?

    Not many, I'd wager.

    Quoted message said:

    I just wonder if it would be viable to just specialise in nature
    or the like to make a living without living on tin food.

    "John Shaw's Business of Nature Photography" is a good book that will
    give you a feel for the 'business' side of it. Most of the really
    prosperous nature photographers I know personally are making much of
    their money either from guiding tours and teaching classes or
    workshops, or writing/selling books or occasionally from stock sales.
    A handful make most of their money from selling prints, typically if
    they own one or more galleries. One guy told me he made less than 5%
    of his income from selling images to magazines, for example, but finds
    that leading photo tours to places he would visit on his own anyway is
    wildly profitable.

    I'll second that. Even selling a dozen photos (to mags and businesses)
    per month on average, and having at least one magazine cover per month,
    my money is still coming from teaching and photo safaris.

    Steve Kramer
    "PhotoEnvisions" Freelance Photography
    Chiang Mai, Thailand
    http://www.photoenvisions.com
    --
    "The voyage of discovery lies not in seeking new horizons, but in seeing
    with new eyes." - Marcel Proust

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    **"...my money is still coming from teaching and photo safaris." Actually
    Steve's money comes from his wife Nobuko, who supports both of them. Truth
    is, if it wasn't for Nobuko and her pension and rental income from the
    apartment that she owns in Osaka, Steve would really be in [censored] creek! Right
    Steve? :-)

    --
    "In this most recent case, Taken Gthepiss also thinks that nothing is going
    to happen. It probably wont for at least a year, till all the loopholes are
    filled, then he goes inside too." - Steve 'Kombat' Kramer, Jun 8 2004.

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