Sprint rims

[Reyserf]

For some reason back in the 1980's I bought some handbuilt
sprint wheels, Campag Record on Mavic GP4's using DB spokes.
Dispite the fact that I spent what seemed like hours
spinning the wheels admiring their oh so smooth bearings and
perfect alignment I never felt confident about my ability to
glue the tubs onto the rims, nor was I happy repairing
punctures, so the wheels soon ended up in the attic
gathering dust.

Thing is, I have got interested in cycling on the road
again. I can use the Bottechia frame which has also been
resting in the attic but I still don't fancy sprints & tubs.

Should I try to sell the wheels on ebay and buy a new wheel
set? or Should I get the wheels rebuilt with a 'wired on'
rim? How easy would it be to do this myself? Could I use
both the hubs and the spokes (although they have'nt been
used for twenty years they have been under tension for that
time) and which rim could I use?

Cheers

George

 

[Simon D]

"Reyserf" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> For some reason back in the 1980's I bought some handbuilt
> sprint wheels, Campag Record on Mavic GP4's using DB
> spokes. Dispite the fact that I
spent
> what seemed like hours spinning the wheels admiring their
> oh so smooth bearings and perfect alignment I never felt
> confident about my ability to glue the tubs onto the rims,
> nor was I happy repairing punctures, so the wheels soon
> ended up in the attic gathering dust.
>
> Thing is, I have got interested in cycling on the road
> again. I can use
the
> Bottechia frame which has also been resting in the attic
> but I still don't fancy sprints & tubs.
>
> Should I try to sell the wheels on ebay and buy a new
> wheel set? or Should I get the wheels rebuilt with a
> 'wired on' rim? How easy would it
be
> to do this myself? Could I use both the hubs and the
> spokes (although they have'nt been used for twenty years
> they have been under tension for that time) and which rim
> could I use?

Personally, I'd ride them!! You have a truly classic pair of
wheels. If you're not confident about glue (and it's really
not rocket science, you know - be daring!) find someone who
sells tub tape. If they're unridden and the spokes aren't
too rusty (chrome??), you shouldn't have any problems at
all. They're a very tough pair of wheels.

However, if you're dead-set against tubs you may be best
getting them rebuilt with HP rims. You'll need new spokes
anyway, because the length will pretty much certainly be
different for any modern HP rim.

It does seem a terrible shame to dismantle such gorgeous
wheels, which anyone restoring an 80s road bike would die
for. However, modern hubs are 130mm / 9 or 10 speed, and
won't be particularly happy with your Bottechia.

Go on - live dangerously - give them a try.

 

[Reyserf]

"Simon D" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Reyserf" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:2iel1dFl52l4U1@uni-
> berlin.de...
> > For some reason back in the 1980's I bought some
> > handbuilt sprint
wheels,
> > Campag Record on Mavic GP4's using DB spokes. Dispite
> > the fact that I
> spent
> > what seemed like hours spinning the wheels admiring
> > their oh so smooth bearings and perfect alignment I
> > never felt confident about my ability
to
> > glue the tubs onto the rims, nor was I happy repairing
> > punctures, so the wheels soon ended up in the attic
> > gathering dust.
> >
> > Thing is, I have got interested in cycling on the road
> > again. I can use
> the
> > Bottechia frame which has also been resting in the attic
> > but I still
don't
> > fancy sprints & tubs.
> >
> > Should I try to sell the wheels on ebay and buy a new
> > wheel set? or Should I get the wheels rebuilt with a
> > 'wired on' rim? How easy would it
> be
> > to do this myself? Could I use both the hubs and the
> > spokes (although
they
> > have'nt been used for twenty years they have been under
> > tension for that time) and which rim could I use?
>
> Personally, I'd ride them!! You have a truly classic pair
> of wheels. If you're not confident about glue (and it's
> really not rocket science, you know - be daring!) find
> someone who sells tub tape. If they're unridden
and
> the spokes aren't too rusty (chrome??), you shouldn't have
> any problems at all. They're a very tough pair of wheels.
>
> However, if you're dead-set against tubs you may be best
> getting them rebuilt with HP rims. You'll need new spokes
> anyway, because the length
will
> pretty much certainly be different for any modern HP rim.
>
> It does seem a terrible shame to dismantle such gorgeous
> wheels, which anyone restoring an 80s road bike would die
> for. However, modern hubs are 130mm / 9 or 10 speed, and
> won't be particularly happy with your
Bottechia.
>
> Go on - live dangerously - give them a try.
>
>
The spokes look like new, as do the rims, just a bit of play
in the front hub.

Is tub tape any good?

New tires incorporate anti-puncture strips do modern tubs?

George

 

[Johnb]

Reyserf wrote:
>
> "Simon D" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > "Reyserf" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > For some reason back in the 1980's I bought some
> > > handbuilt sprint
> wheels,
> > > Campag Record on Mavic GP4's using DB spokes. Should I
> > > try to sell the wheels on ebay and buy a new wheel
> > > set? or Should I get the wheels rebuilt with a 'wired
> > > on' rim? How easy would it
> > be
> > > to do this myself? Could I use both the hubs and the
> > > spokes (although
> they
> > > have'nt been used for twenty years they have been
> > > under tension for that time) and which rim could I
> > > use?
> >
> > Personally, I'd ride them!! You have a truly classic
> > pair of wheels.

> > It does seem a terrible shame to dismantle such gorgeous
> > wheels, which anyone restoring an 80s road bike would
> > die for. However, modern hubs are 130mm / 9 or 10 speed,
> > and won't be particularly happy with your
> Bottechia.

> The spokes look like new, as do the rims, just a bit of
> play in the front hub.
>
> Is tub tape any good?

I have *exactly* the same set of wheels, little used sitting
in the shed. Campag Record hubs from the early 80's with GP4
rims, 28 spoked.

They are terrific to ride but I know I should sell them,
but won't.

I'd use them if I were you; tubs have a special zing
compared to HPs. However, I'd avoid tub tape as if you
puncture it tends to come off and get tangled round your
arms, legs, neck...

Give the rims a layer of tub cement, let them dry, then
another layer before fitting the tub.

Enjoy your ride, and fly

John B

 

[Reyserf]

"Reyserf" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Simon D" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > "Reyserf" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > For some reason back in the 1980's I bought some
> > > handbuilt sprint
> wheels,
> > > Campag Record on Mavic GP4's using DB spokes. Dispite
> > > the fact that I
> > spent
> > > what seemed like hours spinning the wheels admiring
> > > their oh so smooth bearings and perfect alignment I
> > > never felt confident about my ability
> to
> > > glue the tubs onto the rims, nor was I happy repairing
> > > punctures, so
the
> > > wheels soon ended up in the attic gathering dust.
> > >
> > > Thing is, I have got interested in cycling on the road
> > > again. I can
use
> > the
> > > Bottechia frame which has also been resting in the
> > > attic but I still
> don't
> > > fancy sprints & tubs.
> > >
> > > Should I try to sell the wheels on ebay and buy a new
> > > wheel set? or Should I get the wheels rebuilt with a
> > > 'wired on' rim? How easy would
it
> > be
> > > to do this myself? Could I use both the hubs and the
> > > spokes (although
> they
> > > have'nt been used for twenty years they have been
> > > under tension for
that
> > > time) and which rim could I use?
> >
> > Personally, I'd ride them!! You have a truly classic
> > pair of wheels. If you're not confident about glue (and
> > it's really not rocket science, you know - be daring!)
> > find someone who sells tub tape. If they're unridden
> and
> > the spokes aren't too rusty (chrome??), you shouldn't
> > have any problems
at
> > all. They're a very tough pair of wheels.
> >
> > However, if you're dead-set against tubs you may be best
> > getting them rebuilt with HP rims. You'll need new
> > spokes anyway, because the length
> will
> > pretty much certainly be different for any modern
> > HP rim.
> >
> > It does seem a terrible shame to dismantle such gorgeous
> > wheels, which anyone restoring an 80s road bike would
> > die for. However, modern hubs
are
> > 130mm / 9 or 10 speed, and won't be particularly happy
> > with your
> Bottechia.
> >
> > Go on - live dangerously - give them a try.
> >
> >
> The spokes look like new, as do the rims, just a bit of
> play in the front hub.
>
> Is tub tape any good?
>
> New tires incorporate anti-puncture strips do modern tubs?
>
> George
>
>

Just answering my own question.

Had a look at Wiggle, seems that most manufacturers claim
high puncture resistance especially for the more expensive
tubs in their ranges.

George

 

[Reyserf]

"JohnB" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> Reyserf wrote:
> >
> > "Simon D" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > "Reyserf" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > For some reason back in the 1980's I bought some
> > > > handbuilt sprint
> > wheels,
> > > > Campag Record on Mavic GP4's using DB spokes. Should
> > > > I try to sell the wheels on ebay and buy a new wheel
> > > > set? or Should I get the wheels rebuilt with a
> > > > 'wired on' rim? How easy
would it
> > > be
> > > > to do this myself? Could I use both the hubs and the
> > > > spokes
(although
> > they
> > > > have'nt been used for twenty years they have been
> > > > under tension for
that
> > > > time) and which rim could I use?
> > >
> > > Personally, I'd ride them!! You have a truly classic
> > > pair of wheels.
>
>
> > > It does seem a terrible shame to dismantle such
> > > gorgeous wheels, which anyone restoring an 80s road
> > > bike would die for. However, modern hubs
are
> > > 130mm / 9 or 10 speed, and won't be particularly happy
> > > with your
> > Bottechia.
>
> > The spokes look like new, as do the rims, just a bit of
> > play in the
front
> > hub.
> >
> > Is tub tape any good?
>
> I have *exactly* the same set of wheels, little used
> sitting in the shed. Campag Record hubs from the early
> 80's with GP4 rims, 28 spoked.
>
> They are terrific to ride but I know I should sell them,
> but won't.
>
> I'd use them if I were you; tubs have a special zing
> compared to HPs. However, I'd avoid tub tape as if you
> puncture it tends to come off and get tangled round your
> arms, legs, neck...
>
> Give the rims a layer of tub cement, let them dry, then
> another layer before fitting the tub.
>
> Enjoy your ride, and fly
>
> John B

OK I'll see how I get on.

George

 

[Mike Sales]

"Reyserf" < wrote in message
> For some reason back in the 1980's I bought some handbuilt
> sprint wheels, Campag Record on Mavic GP4's using DB
> spokes. Dispite the fact that I
spent
> what seemed like hours spinning the wheels admiring their
> oh so smooth bearings and perfect alignment I never felt
> confident about my ability to glue the tubs onto the rims,
> nor was I happy repairing punctures, so the wheels soon
> ended up in the attic gathering dust.
>
> Thing is, I have got interested in cycling on the road
> again. I can use
the
> Bottechia frame which has also been resting in the attic
> but I still don't fancy sprints & tubs.
>
> Should I try to sell the wheels on ebay and buy a new
> wheel set? or Should I get the wheels rebuilt with a
> 'wired on' rim? How easy would it
be
> to do this myself? Could I use both the hubs and the
> spokes (although they have'nt been used for twenty years
> they have been under tension for that time) and which rim
> could I use?
>
> Cheers
>
> George
>
>
Tubs are lovely to ride on. The wheels are right for the
bike? I have four tubs only a year or two old which you can
have for £5 each, tape thrown in. And instructions for
fitting. Mike Sales.

 

[Pete Biggs]

Reyserf wrote:
> Should I get the wheels rebuilt with a 'wired on' rim? How
> easy would it be to do this myself? Could I use both the
> hubs and the spokes (although they have'nt been used for
> twenty years they have been under tension for that time)
> and which rim could I use?

It would be fine to re-use the hubs and spokes if you
wanted to. Rim transplants are dead easy (tape new rim
besides wheel and swap spokes over one at a time) but you
do need some wheel building skills to tension and true
afterwards. Sorry I don't know which rim would suit for
same length spokes.

Note that some professional teams use clinchers nowdays --
that's how good they are now.

~PB