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  1. OUR DOCTORS ARE KILLING US!
    HOSPITALS ARE DANGEROUS

    I'll bet you thought the safest place to be was a hospital. Not so.
    Actually, one of the most dangerous places to be is the hospital. It is
    there that all manner of germs are lurking. In spite of all efforts to kill
    them, hospital infections, which are infections gotten while in the hospital
    for something else, are one of the leading causes of serious illness, even
    death, among patients. But that's not even the worst of it. More people are
    killed by doctors' mistakes than by all other single causes. Most doctors
    are highly skilled, generally careful practitioners. But there are many who
    just barely passed their courses in medical school and are, at the very
    least, sloppy, and at the worst, incompetent.
    So, many people who don't die of their illness or accident die from hospital
    infections and from doctor's mistakes, such as misdiagnosis, erroneous
    prescriptions, prescribing wrong dosages, doing unnecessary surgery, and
    through surgical errors.

    300,000 PATIENTS KILLED EVERY YEAR
    Ralph Nader did a three-year study of the chief causes of death in American
    hospitals, which was released in January of 1993. In it, he came up with the
    figure of 300,000 as the number of people who are killed each year as a
    result of medical negligence. If we killed that many in a war, there'd be
    rioting in the streets. During the Viet Nam war, there were street riots --
    for only 57,000 killed during the whole Viet Nam experience -- and they were
    working at killing people. But no one seems to notice when our doctors kill
    six times as many by accident.

    DOCTOR ARROGANCE
    But probably the chief cause of death and exacerbation of illness is simply
    the arrogance of too many doctors who still think they know everything there
    is to know about personal health, including areas in which they have had no
    training at all. If you send most of them information about preventative
    medicine through vitamin and mineral supplementation, they routinely throw
    it away unread. They think that because they are doctors, they know more
    than people who have been curing illness and keeping people healthy for
    centuries through their use.

    WE CURE ANIMALS, WHY NOT HUMANS?
    We have learned how to prevent and cure disease in animals with nutrition,
    and we do it routinely through supplementation of their food. The same trace
    minerals and vitamins that accomplish this in animals will also work on
    humans. This has been proven. So why do the doctors and the medical
    establishment ignore it? They've managed to ignore completely the advances
    that have been made in veterinarian medicine toward curing illnesses that
    are killing us right and left. One of the best examples of this is the
    aneurysm. A 1957 study proved that an epidemic of early deaths among turkeys
    was caused directly by a copper deficiency. The addition of copper to the
    turkey's diets virtually eliminated the deaths. The same thing would work
    for humans, but the information about this study has been roundly ignored by
    the human medical community.

    WE TREAT OUR LIVESTOCK BETTER THAN WE DO OURSELVES!
    We commonly give our livestock on the farm nutrient-fortified feed. We do
    this in order to reduce the death rate so as to maximize profits. Animals
    that die too early don't provide profits. But no such circumstance seems to
    exist for humans. Their nutritional needs are routinely ignored in favor of
    giving them pain relievers and cutting them open.

    SYMPTOMATIC TREATMENT
    I've always been frustrated by the tendency on the part of many doctors to
    treat my symptoms, rather than treat the underlying cause. In some cases,
    this symptomatic treatment has been dangerous. One time they prescribed a
    known blood pressure medicine for something else entirely. At that time, I
    was already using two such medicines. But no one asked me what I was already
    taking when they prescribed this medicine that could have easily killed me
    had I continued taking it. And this treatment was just to mask the symptoms,
    not cure the problem.

    THEY JUST COULDN'T DIAGNOSE IT
    The reason for symptomatic treatment is that in more cases than they'd like
    to admit, they never even get close to the real, underlying cause of what's
    ailing us. So they prescribe pills, palliatives, and pain-relievers to make
    us think they've cured us. A good example of this is the pain relievers they
    commonly prescribe for persons with arthritis. Doing this is much akin to
    cutting the wires to the warning light on your car that tells you your
    alternator is not working, Soon you'll be waiting for a tow truck -- or in
    the case of humans, the morgue wagon.

    What this does is mask the symptoms and make people think they're OK while
    the underlying cause of their problem continues to cause their bodies to
    deteriorate. The real answer for arthritis is to supplement their diet with
    natural calcium. Most doctors -- who have been taught very little about
    nutrition as preventative medicine -- disagree, saying the problem is a
    buildup of calcium around the joints. This is incorrect. Other doctors with
    excellent credentials, but who have been trained in the use of vitamin and
    mineral supplementation, tell us that arthritis is caused by the melting
    away of natural calcium from within the bones, which causes a buildup of
    that calcium at the joints.

    That calcium buildup is a consequence of a reduction of calcium within the
    bone itself. The introduction of natural calcium into the system can
    completely eliminate this buildup and, in effect, cure the problem.
    Veterinarians know this, and commonly use calcium to treat their animals,
    with routine success. But human doctors ignore it. Dr. Linus Paulding did
    research which showed that dietary supplementation, in particular with
    regard to vitamin C, would cure most of the ills of mankind. People
    ridiculed him, but he kept on taking massive doses of this vitamin, and
    others, and was still teaching and doing hard work on his ranch well into
    his nineties.

    Meanwhile other doctors, who were ignoring the evidence that dietary
    supplementation has virtually eliminated many diseases among animals, live
    to be, on the average, 58 years of age -- not even as long as their patients
    (the ones they don't kill) live. Who are you going to believe?

    NATURAL CAUSES? OR DEFICIENCIES?
    Dr. Joel D. Wallach, B.S., D.V.M., N.D., 1991 Nobel Prize Nominee for
    Medicine, during his early career autopsied 17,500 animals from 454 species
    that had died of natural causes in zoos in the United States. He also
    performed autopsies on about 3,500 humans who lived close to zoos in a study
    that hoped to find an animal that was ultra-sensitive to pollution. But he
    discovered something else during that study which has caused him to go on a
    crusade around the world and to write several books detailing his findings,
    hoping to be able to save people from unnecessary early death.

    He discovered that Every human being, and every animal that dies of `natural
    causes' dies of a nutritional deficiency.

    SCIENTIFIC FACT
    He documented this at the autopsy table. It is not arguable -- yet doctors
    are still ignoring his findings while hundreds of thousands of people die
    each year from nutritional deficiencies. This was back in the sixties. After
    going back to school and becoming a human doctor too, he found that he could
    add many healthful years to the lives of his human patients through use of
    his nutritional findings.

    POTENTIAL LIFE SPAN: 120 TO 140 YEARS
    The genetic potential for the average human being today is from 120 to 140
    years -- and we're talking about good years, here, not years of infirmity,
    agony, illness, and faulty memory. But if we don't start paying attention to
    those who tell us about preventative medicine, we'll never get there. We
    can't continue to ignore what is right under our noses while we keep on
    dying through ignorance. We need to start listening to people who know.

    NUTRIENT-DEPLETED SOIL
    There is one factor that has shortened our lifespan generally, and that is
    the fact that we are growing crops in soil that is devoid of nutrients. Each
    time a farmer takes a crop from a field, he takes along large amounts of the
    natural nutrients that are there. And, except for this thin film of
    fertilizer he adds later, he is soon growing crops in soil without
    nutrients. The fertilizer he adds puts just enough nutrients in the soil to
    allow him to grow crops that look good, but which do not contain enough
    nutrients to support life in a healthful manner. This gives us food that,
    while it may look and taste good, cannot support the needs of our bodies
    without outside help.

    WHAT ABOUT THE ANCIENTS?
    Dr. Wallach tells us why the ancient Egyptian, Indian, and Chinese peoples
    who lived along the banks of rivers such as the Nile, the Ganges, and the
    Yalu, who didn't have nutritional supplementation, still lived long and
    productive lives. The answer is simple: those rivers regularly flooded,
    bringing nutrient-rich silt to the lands below. This was the most powerful
    fertilizer there was, and these people prayed to every God they knew for
    those floods to keep on coming because they knew, at some level, that it was
    the floods that kept them healthy. According to Dr. Wallach, King Phillip,
    who was father of Alexander The Great, married the Egyptian teeny-bopper
    Queen Cleopatra (who was no Elizabeth Taylor) not because she was so
    beautiful, but because she commanded the most healthy wheat in the known
    world.

    NUTRIENTS VITAL TO YOUR HEALTH
    You need 90 nutrients in your diet each day. 60 minerals, 16 vitamins, 12
    essential amino acids (protein building blocks), and 3 essential fatty
    acids. If you don't have them, in complete numbers and in optimal amounts,
    you're going to get a deficiency disease. And this deficiency disease will
    probably cause you to die early -- of "natural causes." Recently, Margaret
    Skeet, of Radford, Virginia, died at the age of 115 of a nutritional
    deficiency. The official cause of death was "complications of a fall." But
    those of us who look beyond the "official cause" know that she really died
    of a calcium deficiency that caused osteoporosis, which caused the fall. She
    had no heart disease, no cancer, no diabetes, and no other infirmities. No
    reason to die, except for a deficiency in calcium.

    Male pattern baldness is caused by a tin deficiency. Do you have it? Take an
    ionic tin supplement. Ulcers aren't caused by stress. Veterinarian medical
    research learned fifty years ago that it was caused by a bacteria in pigs,
    and was curable by use of a trace mineral called bismuth and tetracycline.

    CURABLE FOR HUMANS, TOO!
    The National Institutes of Health released a study in early 1994 that
    confirmed that this was also true for humans. They actually said that this
    treatment could "cure" ulcers. What is amazing is that they actually used
    the "cure" word. (The trace mineral bismuth is available in drug stores
    under the trade name Pepto Bismol.)

    ANTI-CANCER DIET
    The National Cancer Institute and the Harvard medical School did a study on
    cancer patients and released their findings in September of 1993. They
    actually said: "An 'anti-cancer diet' was found." Among other findings was
    that by giving double the recommended daily allowance of the vitamins and
    minerals used, in the group that was given vitamin E, beta carotene, and
    selenium, deaths from all causes were reduced by 9%. And 13% of people who
    would have died from all cancers survived. (Remember, a 1/2% improvement in
    any nutritional or pharmaceutical experiment will make a major difference in
    humanity's life expectancy). In stomach and esophageal cancers, 21% lived
    who would have died. The medical community largely ignored this.

    DRIED CHICKEN CARTILAGE A DRUG?
    In another Harvard Medical School study, this time in concert with the
    Boston VA Hospital, which was also released in September of 1993, they gave
    arthritis patients who had failed to respond to any medical treatment ground
    up dried chicken cartilage in their orange juice every morning. In ten days,
    all the pain and inflammation was gone. In thirty days, they were able to
    open tightly closed pickle jars, and in 90 days, they had maximum return of
    function.

    So the director of the study, in his statement to the press, said that
    apparently, "the drug" was successful. Chicken cartilage, having been
    successful in treating the arthritis, was now a drug. And of course, now
    being a drug, makes it a (doctor) controlled substance and about twice as
    expensive. But you can go into any grocery store and get some Knox Gelatin.
    It contains all the ingredients you need and costs only a few cents per
    dose.

    There are many more stories about major diseases that have been both
    prevented and cured by dietary supplementation, including Alzheimer's
    disease (high doses of vitamin E and low intakes of vegetable oil), kidney
    stones (natural calcium, in spite of most doctors' prejudice against it),
    early graying of hair (copper), liver spots (selenium), and menopause
    symptoms (boron), but I don't have room to enumerate them here. If you want
    to know about them, you can read Dr. Wallach's book or subscribe to "Staying
    Alive," the newsletter.

    THESE ARE NOT "LUNATIC RAVINGS">/B>
    Many people, including most doctors, work hard to make you believe that
    anyone who says that most of our diseases are preventable -- and even
    curable -- through the use of vitamin and mineral supplementation is balmy,
    and doesn't know what he or she is talking about. So let's look at what some
    trusted sources (beyond those already listed) say about it:

    Time Magazine, April 6, 1992: An article titled: "The Real Power of
    Vitamins," in which they say, "New research shows they may help fight
    cancer, heart disease, and the ravages of aging."

    The United States Congress: In 1936, the United States Congress came out
    with U. S. Senate Declaration Document 264 (74th Congress, Second Session)
    which said categorically that we had depleted our soil of usable vitamins
    and minerals (see the link below). This was in 1936. Has it gotten any
    better? Nope. It has gotten worse, to the point where just about everyone
    has some sort of vitamin and/or mineral deficiency and they're paying
    doctors big bucks to either cut something out or to prescribe symptomatic
    treatment (treat the symptoms, not the disease) while the underlying
    problem -- the nutritional deficiency -- slowly kills them.

    THERE ARE "PITFALLS"
    There are things that you need to know when attempting to improve your own
    health through good nutrition. One of those is that there are vitamins and
    minerals on the market your body just cannot assimilate and which therefore
    do you little good, while you think they're helping you.

    Synthetics: These are man-made vitamins. You can get some good from them,
    but the body is largely unable to assimilate synthetics.

    Extracts:They extract the known substances and ignore those that are not yet
    known (Until recently, such vitamins would not have contained vitamin E, one
    of the most important vitamins known today, since it wasn't yet a known
    vitamin).

    "Natural" vitamins: The best kinds of vitamins are those that are completely
    natural, and include the entire complex from the natural food source.

    Metallic minerals: Use of these does you small good, because the body can
    only assimilate a small percentage of what the label shows is supposed to be
    there without help.

    Chelation: This process (pronounced key-la-tion) can help (Not to be
    confused with Chelation therapy). Chelation, (which fools the body by
    surrounding the mineral with protein to make it think: "soup's on!"😉 so the
    body can assimilate more of it) improves the assimilation rate to about 40%.

    Ionic minerals: But there is a fairly recent discovery that has improved the
    assimilation rate for minerals to almost 100%. This discovery is the ionic
    mineral process where the mineral molecules are reduced to the size the body
    can immediately use without processing. Ionic minerals are not universally
    available yet, being a relatively new discovery. But if you search
    diligently, you will soon be able to find them easily.

    YOU DESERVE AT LEAST AS GOOD A CHANCE AS FARM ANIMALS HAVE
    Don't you think you deserve at least as good a chance to stay alive and be
    healthy for many more years than now as do farm animals? I think so, which
    is why I believe you should go out of your way to learn as much as you can
    about how it's done. Search out every source possible for information on how
    to improve your health and lengthen your life through preventative medicine
    using nutrition, as farmers do for their livestock. They've been routinely
    supplementing the feed given their livestock for many years now, and their
    livestock have been correspondingly healthier and live longer. If they can
    do it for animals, why shouldn't you be able to do it for yourself? Why does
    the medical community deny this research and ignore these results?

    You owe it to yourself to seek out information outside of the usual
    "self-serving" medical channels that can help you stay alive longer. Your
    body is designed for it and you can live a longer life without the pains and
    illnesses usually associated with old age. Start early, and you can have a
    much better quality of life, for longer.

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    Dave said:

    OUR DOCTORS ARE KILLING US!
    HOSPITALS ARE DANGEROUS

    Not as dangerous as listening to major-league liars like Spammin' Dave
    Lowlife, though.

    Quoted message said:

    300,000 PATIENTS KILLED EVERY YEAR
    Ralph Nader did a three-year study of the chief causes of death in American
    hospitals, which was released in January of 1993. In it, he came up with the
    figure of 300,000 as the number of people who are killed each year as a
    result of medical negligence.

    The Harvard Malpractice Study came up with a range of 48,000 to
    127,000, also for 1993.

    Quoted message said:

    WE CURE ANIMALS, WHY NOT HUMANS?

    We do cure humans. Just not always. We don't always cure animals,
    either. Not to mention all the roadblocks the FDA throws in the way
    of possible human trials for all kinds of things.

    Quoted message said:

    A 1957 study proved that an epidemic of early deaths among turkeys
    was caused directly by a copper deficiency. The addition of copper to the
    turkey's diets virtually eliminated the deaths. The same thing would work
    for humans, but the information about this study has been roundly ignored by
    the human medical community.

    Too bad the turkeys who spam us with MLM [censored] aren't copper-
    deficient more often.

    Quoted message said:

    with routine success. But human doctors ignore it. Dr. Linus Paulding did
    research which showed that dietary supplementation, in particular with
    regard to vitamin C, would cure most of the ills of mankind.

    Hahahaha.

    Quoted message said:

    People
    ridiculed him, but he kept on taking massive doses of this vitamin, and
    others, and was still teaching and doing hard work on his ranch well into
    his nineties.

    When he died of prostate cancer.

    Quoted message said:

    NATURAL CAUSES? OR DEFICIENCIES?
    Dr. Joel D. Wallach, B.S., D.V.M., N.D., 1991 Nobel Prize Nominee for
    Medicine,

    Being a "nominee" is totally meaningless. You could be a nominee.
    That doesn't make you a plausible candidate.

    Quoted message said:

    during his early career autopsied 17,500 animals from 454 species
    that had died of natural causes in zoos in the United States. He also
    performed autopsies on about 3,500 humans who lived close to zoos in a study
    that hoped to find an animal that was ultra-sensitive to pollution.

    Vets are not allowed to perform autopsies. I don't believe that claim
    at all. And how long would it take to do a proper necropsy on 17,500
    animals of 454 species, not to mention being wide-ranging enough to
    determine the cause of death in all of them?

    Quoted message said:

    He discovered that Every human being, and every animal that dies of `natural
    causes' dies of a nutritional deficiency.

    Sure he did.

    Quoted message said:

    SCIENTIFIC FACT
    He documented this at the autopsy table. It is not arguable

    Oh, yes it is.

    Quoted message said:

    POTENTIAL LIFE SPAN: 120 TO 140 YEARS
    The genetic potential for the average human being today is from 120 to 140
    years -- and we're talking about good years, here, not years of infirmity,
    agony, illness, and faulty memory. But if we don't start paying attention to
    those who tell us about preventative medicine, we'll never get there. We
    can't continue to ignore what is right under our noses while we keep on
    dying through ignorance. We need to start listening to people who know.

    If that were true, we'd see a significant number of people living to
    be over 120, instead of just one verified case in the last century.

    Quoted message said:

    NUTRIENT-DEPLETED SOIL
    There is one factor that has shortened our lifespan generally, and
    that is the fact that we are growing crops in soil that is devoid of
    nutrients.

    We've already gone around on the idiocy of that claim.

    Quoted message said:

    NUTRIENTS VITAL TO YOUR HEALTH
    You need 90 nutrients in your diet each day. 60 minerals, 16 vitamins, 12
    essential amino acids (protein building blocks), and 3 essential fatty
    acids.

    There are not 60 known minerals with nutritive value; there are about
    a dozen, with another half-dozen or so that are suspected to be
    useful. The claim of "60" is to justify their presence in Wallach's
    "colloidal mineral" [censored].

    Quoted message said:

    Male pattern baldness is caused by a tin deficiency.

    Sure it is. Let's see the evidence. I've also read that it's caused
    by a zinc deficiency.

    Quoted message said:

    Ulcers aren't caused by stress. Veterinarian medical
    research learned fifty years ago that it was caused by a bacteria in pigs,
    and was curable by use of a trace mineral called bismuth and tetracycline.

    Only some ulcers are caused by bacteria (helicobacter pylori). We now
    routinely treat people who have such ulcers with antibiotics.

    Quoted message said:

    THESE ARE NOT "LUNATIC RAVINGS"

    Well, in large measure, they are. They're also spam.

    Quoted message said:

    The United States Congress: In 1936, the United States Congress came out
    with U. S. Senate Declaration Document 264 (74th Congress, Second Session)

    Oh, there we go again -- official evidence that a Senator can request
    a magazine article be reprinted.

    Quoted message said:

    THERE ARE "PITFALLS"

    Yes, someone might not believe your spam and your sales could suffer.

    Quoted message said:

    Synthetics: These are man-made vitamins. You can get some good from them,
    but the body is largely unable to assimilate synthetics.

    Totally false.

    Quoted message said:

    YOU DESERVE AT LEAST AS GOOD A CHANCE AS FARM ANIMALS HAVE

    To do what? Be eaten for food?

    -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
    were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

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