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  1. Llatikcuf said:
    Sorni said:


    I sign my name "Bill {insert pithy comment perhaps} S.", not my full
    name. The only people I recall USING my full name do so out of
    antagonism (usually due to political stuff).

    Well bill, with all due respect, a strong personality like yours is
    bound to rub a few the wrong way. Not much we can do.

    SEE? YOU DID IT AGAIN! (Hint: the discussion was the use of my full name
    BY YOU, which you claimed {now snipped BY YOU} was because that's how I sign
    my posts {it's not}.) You, sir, are disingenuous at best.

    See ya...

  2. "Sorni" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Llatikcuf said:
    Sorni said:


    I sign my name "Bill {insert pithy comment perhaps} S.", not my full
    name. The only people I recall USING my full name do so out of
    antagonism (usually due to political stuff).

    Well bill, with all due respect, a strong personality like yours is
    bound to rub a few the wrong way. Not much we can do.

    SEE? YOU DID IT AGAIN! (Hint: the discussion was the use of my full


    name

    Quoted message said:

    BY YOU, which you claimed {now snipped BY YOU} was because that's how I


    sign

    Quoted message said:

    my posts {it's not}.) You, sir, are disingenuous at best.

    You lost me there.

    Greg

  3. Sorni said:

    SEE? YOU DID IT AGAIN! (Hint: the discussion was the use of my full name
    BY YOU, which you claimed {now snipped BY YOU} was because that's how I sign
    my posts {it's not}.) You, sir, are disingenuous at best.

    See ya...

    Bill, I'm begging you to add me to your kill file.

    -nate

  4. When done properly my method is no more hazardous than cooking oatmeal.

    If you have poor supplies and poor technique, expect poor results.

    oatmeal?

    have you searched for 'automatic transmision fluid' in tech archive?

  5. Quoted message said:

    When done properly my method is no more hazardous than cooking oatmeal.

    If you have poor supplies and poor technique, expect poor results.

    oatmeal?

    I like oatmeal.

    You have to eat fiber to be regular, you have to be regular to be happy
    = eat fiber be happy, might be more effective than an ssri.

    Quoted message said:


    have you searched for 'automatic transmision fluid' in tech archive?

    um, no I have not. Why?

    -nate

  6. G.T. said:

    "Sorni" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Llatikcuf said:

    Sorni wrote:
    >
    > I sign my name "Bill {insert pithy comment perhaps} S.", not my
    > full name. The only people I recall USING my full name do so out of
    > antagonism (usually due to political stuff).

    Well bill, with all due respect, a strong personality like yours is
    bound to rub a few the wrong way. Not much we can do.

    SEE? YOU DID IT AGAIN! (Hint: the discussion was the use of my
    full name BY YOU, which you claimed {now snipped BY YOU} was because
    that's how I sign my posts {it's not}.) You, sir, are disingenuous
    at best.

    You lost me there.

    Sigh. Someone I don't know brought me into this thread in an insulting
    manner, using my "full" name (even spelled right), and then claimed it's
    because that's how I sign my posts (and for some reason they mixed me up
    with jim beam of all people!). This person snips relevant content from his
    replies, too, so I can see why you got lost.

    Easier to just re-read the threadlet.

    Bill "still say ostriches are creepy eyeballically" S.

  7. studies show people using solder for cable ends use ATF for chain lube!!

  8. Quoted message said:

    studies show people using solder for cable ends use ATF for chain lube!!

    Can you cite the study(s)? 🙂

    -nate

  9. Ken Pisichko said:
    RonSonic said:

    It is the duty of the English-speaking peoples to amuse one another with their
    accents and regional abuses of the mother tongue.

    Yes, that means I'm obliged to say things like "Howdy Ma'am."

    Ron

    So be it, but last time I checked I can say for certain that I ain't NO Ma'am. :-) That
    isn't what you meant by your comment is it ;-) and ?

    NoSireeBob!

    Ron

  10. On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 00:03:55 GMT, "Sorni" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    G.T. said:

    "Sorni" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Llatikcuf wrote:
    > Sorni wrote:
    >>
    >> I sign my name "Bill {insert pithy comment perhaps} S.", not my
    >> full name. The only people I recall USING my full name do so out of
    >> antagonism (usually due to political stuff).
    >
    > Well bill, with all due respect, a strong personality like yours is
    > bound to rub a few the wrong way. Not much we can do.

    SEE? YOU DID IT AGAIN! (Hint: the discussion was the use of my
    full name BY YOU, which you claimed {now snipped BY YOU} was because
    that's how I sign my posts {it's not}.) You, sir, are disingenuous
    at best.

    You lost me there.

    Sigh. Someone I don't know brought me into this thread in an insulting
    manner, using my "full" name (even spelled right), and then claimed it's
    because that's how I sign my posts (and for some reason they mixed me up
    with jim beam of all people!). This person snips relevant content from his
    replies, too, so I can see why you got lost.

    Easier to just re-read the threadlet.

    No, don't do it. Save yourself while you still can. Run away. RUNNNNNNNN!!!!!

    Quoted message said:

    Bill "still say ostriches are creepy eyeballically" S.

    Ron "not that damn clever: B.

  11. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Lou Holtman wrote:
    >Again more work ;-)
    >Doesn't your cable gets 'damaged' under the attaching bolt?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Llatikcuf said:

    No, just watch the torque when tightening it down.

    Quoted message said:
    Lou Holtman said:

    When I torque my brake cable according to spec (5 Nm), the cable gets
    flattened and difficult to pull through the casing.

    Llatikcuf said:

    I give up. My method works for me, I will cease to make claims that it
    might work for others. My cables don't get flattened or dis-formed.
    There's a little rounded indentation on my components that the cable
    fits into, it doesn't get smashed. I have cables that are 7-10 years
    old on my bikes, no reason to replace a gear cable that's not broken or
    fraying, that would just be wasteful. Of course I also pickup tubes off
    the side of the road (left by other cyclist [censored], you know the
    racer type that can't be bothered to carry their own trash), I patch
    them and use them. Haven't bought a tube for quite some time. Call me
    crazy.

    Yeah, why would one remove a cable? I turn up the adjuster
    once in a while, then turn it all the way back when I change
    shoes. Haven't put a wrench to my brake cable anchor in
    about 15 years (new cables after car crash).

    --
    Andrew Muzi
    www.yellowjersey.org
    Open every day since 1 April, 1971

  12. In article <[email hidden]>, A Muzi

    () said:

    Yeah, why would one remove a cable?

    Much easier to remove heavy concentrations of Skog(tm) from derailleurs
    if they are not attached to the bike?

    --
    Dave Larrington - <http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/>
    God was my co-pilot, but we crashed in the mountains and I had to eat
    Him.

  13. On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 21:06:19 GMT, Ted Bennett <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    For the cost of the torch, the flux and the solder, you can purchase a
    couple of lifetime supplies of those ends.

    Yeah, but you already have all the tools for other uses. Incidentally, a
    16W electronics soldering iron works for soldering cable ends.

    Jasper

  14. On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 16:08:31 -0800, "G.T." <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    "Jasper Janssen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 19:51:44 +0100, Lou Holtman <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    It looks nice....but why? I still don't get it.

    Cheaper

    Including labor?

    I don't know about you, but I work very cheap when I'm doing things for
    myself, especially fun things.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and lighter than alu cable ends.

    You sure?

    No. But it still looks better, especially on gear which (unlike modern
    Shimano stuff) doesn't have a specific place to stash the cable end.

    Jasper

  15. Llatikcuf said:
    spin156 said:
    john said:

    Nate L wrote:

    >(It's the right temperature when it gets that silvery/white sparkle to it.)

    You mean the flux, when you say silvery/white sparkle, not the metal,
    don't you?

    Also in an earlier post you mentioned a $2 torch. Where does one find a
    $2 torch? Hell, I'd be happy to settle for $5. I know you are not going
    to say "WallyWorld" :-) I bought a lighter for sizing the ends of nylon
    cord & it was over a buck.

    Thanks again for all the info, John

    I don't know about $2, but I found a couple of different butane torches
    in the tool section at Home Depot for less than $10. I got one for
    $7.95 and it's refillable with standard butane canisters. It will
    heat up to 1700C/3100F - plenty hot enough for tinning cable ends.

    http://llatikcuf.home.comcast.net/torch.jpg

    $1.99 at local Ace Hardware. I guess if you include tax (6.6%) then
    it's over $2.

    I've got the exact same one. Twice, actually, the first time some 20 years
    ago and the second time about now. I paid either 2.5 or 5 euro at the
    local Home-Depot-style building supplies Gamma store, this last time.
    Funny how those exact blue anodised alu thing are all over the world and
    all over time.

    It's a pretty shortlived flame, though, with a full magazine.

    Jasper

  16. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Jasper Janssen said:
    Llatikcuf said:
    spin156 said:

    john wrote:
    > Nate L wrote:
    >
    > >(It's the right temperature when it gets that silvery/white sparkle to it.)
    >
    > You mean the flux, when you say silvery/white sparkle, not the metal,
    > don't you?
    >
    > Also in an earlier post you mentioned a $2 torch. Where does one find a
    > $2 torch? Hell, I'd be happy to settle for $5. I know you are not going
    > to say "WallyWorld" :-) I bought a lighter for sizing the ends of nylon
    > cord & it was over a buck.
    >
    > Thanks again for all the info, John

    I don't know about $2, but I found a couple of different butane torches
    in the tool section at Home Depot for less than $10. I got one for
    $7.95 and it's refillable with standard butane canisters. It will
    heat up to 1700C/3100F - plenty hot enough for tinning cable ends.

    http://llatikcuf.home.comcast.net/torch.jpg

    $1.99 at local Ace Hardware. I guess if you include tax (6.6%) then
    it's over $2.

    I've got the exact same one. Twice, actually, the first time some 20 years
    ago and the second time about now. I paid either 2.5 or 5 euro at the
    local Home-Depot-style building supplies Gamma store, this last time.
    Funny how those exact blue anodised alu thing are all over the world and
    all over time.

    It's a pretty shortlived flame, though, with a full magazine.

    Kitchen shops sell a refillable butane torch. Perfect for
    crème brûlée, soldering small parts, and lighting candles.

    --
    Michael Press

  17. Michael Press said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Jasper Janssen said:
    Llatikcuf said:

    spin156 wrote:
    > john wrote:
    > > Nate L wrote:
    > >
    > > >(It's the right temperature when it gets that silvery/white sparkle to it.)
    > >
    > > You mean the flux, when you say silvery/white sparkle, not the metal,
    > > don't you?
    > >
    > > Also in an earlier post you mentioned a $2 torch. Where does one find a
    > > $2 torch? Hell, I'd be happy to settle for $5. I know you are not going
    > > to say "WallyWorld" :-) I bought a lighter for sizing the ends of nylon
    > > cord & it was over a buck.
    > >
    > > Thanks again for all the info, John
    >
    > I don't know about $2, but I found a couple of different butane torches
    > in the tool section at Home Depot for less than $10. I got one for
    > $7.95 and it's refillable with standard butane canisters. It will
    > heat up to 1700C/3100F - plenty hot enough for tinning cable ends.

    http://llatikcuf.home.comcast.net/torch.jpg

    $1.99 at local Ace Hardware. I guess if you include tax (6.6%) then
    it's over $2.

    I've got the exact same one. Twice, actually, the first time some 20 years
    ago and the second time about now. I paid either 2.5 or 5 euro at the
    local Home-Depot-style building supplies Gamma store, this last time.
    Funny how those exact blue anodised alu thing are all over the world and
    all over time.

    It's a pretty shortlived flame, though, with a full magazine.

    Kitchen shops sell a refillable butane torch. Perfect for
    crème brûlée, soldering small parts, and lighting candles.

    I just have to see if I can do that as well as you did:

    è ... û ... é

    COOL, albeit I DID have to look on the 'net to do it.

    Well done. Carry on.

  18. Michael Press said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Jasper Janssen said:
    Llatikcuf said:

    spin156 wrote:

    >john wrote:
    >
    >>Nate L wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>>(It's the right temperature when it gets that silvery/white sparkle to it.)
    >>
    >>You mean the flux, when you say silvery/white sparkle, not the metal,
    >>don't you?
    >>
    >>Also in an earlier post you mentioned a $2 torch. Where does one find a
    >>$2 torch? Hell, I'd be happy to settle for $5. I know you are not going
    >>to say "WallyWorld" :-) I bought a lighter for sizing the ends of nylon
    >>cord & it was over a buck.
    >>
    >>Thanks again for all the info, John
    >
    >I don't know about $2, but I found a couple of different butane torches
    >in the tool section at Home Depot for less than $10. I got one for
    >$7.95 and it's refillable with standard butane canisters. It will
    >heat up to 1700C/3100F - plenty hot enough for tinning cable ends.

    http://llatikcuf.home.comcast.net/torch.jpg

    $1.99 at local Ace Hardware. I guess if you include tax (6.6%) then
    it's over $2.

    I've got the exact same one. Twice, actually, the first time some 20 years
    ago and the second time about now. I paid either 2.5 or 5 euro at the
    local Home-Depot-style building supplies Gamma store, this last time.
    Funny how those exact blue anodised alu thing are all over the world and
    all over time.

    It's a pretty shortlived flame, though, with a full magazine.

    Kitchen shops sell a refillable butane torch. Perfect for
    crème brûlée, soldering small parts, and lighting candles.

    You call that a torch? It's like soldering with a candle.

    Lou
    --
    Posted by news://news.nb.nu

  19. not from hear but if yawl type
    'atf' into the tech archive's search box yawl get 49 cites
    yawl crunch from there!
    crunchcrunchcrunch

    speaking of crunch -
    at a rate of 50 theologic violent deaths rate per day
    Iraq's violent TDR is only 3 times the auto death rate for florida
    in which in passing - rates for pickups are 2-3x higher than sedans

  20. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Lou Holtman said:
    Michael Press said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Jasper Janssen said:

    On 27 Mar 2006 09:17:15 -0800, "Llatikcuf" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    >spin156 wrote:
    >
    >>john wrote:
    >>
    >>>Nate L wrote:
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>>(It's the right temperature when it gets that silvery/white sparkle to it.)
    >>>
    >>>You mean the flux, when you say silvery/white sparkle, not the metal,
    >>>don't you?
    >>>
    >>>Also in an earlier post you mentioned a $2 torch. Where does one find a
    >>>$2 torch? Hell, I'd be happy to settle for $5. I know you are not going
    >>>to say "WallyWorld" :-) I bought a lighter for sizing the ends of nylon
    >>>cord & it was over a buck.
    >>>
    >>>Thanks again for all the info, John
    >>
    >>I don't know about $2, but I found a couple of different butane torches
    >>in the tool section at Home Depot for less than $10. I got one for
    >>$7.95 and it's refillable with standard butane canisters. It will
    >>heat up to 1700C/3100F - plenty hot enough for tinning cable ends.
    >
    >http://llatikcuf.home.comcast.net/torch.jpg
    >
    >$1.99 at local Ace Hardware. I guess if you include tax (6.6%) then
    >it's over $2.

    I've got the exact same one. Twice, actually, the first time some 20 years
    ago and the second time about now. I paid either 2.5 or 5 euro at the
    local Home-Depot-style building supplies Gamma store, this last time.
    Funny how those exact blue anodised alu thing are all over the world and
    all over time.

    It's a pretty shortlived flame, though, with a full magazine.

    Kitchen shops sell a refillable butane torch. Perfect for
    crème brûlée, soldering small parts, and lighting candles.

    You call that a torch? It's like soldering with a candle.

    You mean this Roburn MT-770 that brings a brake cable to
    orange-red in under five seconds? 64 ml tank capacity.

    --
    Michael Press

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