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Soda vs. the Jelly Bean Rule

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  1. December 20, 2004

    Soda vs. the Jelly Bean Rule

    By Jeff Stier, Esq.

    Cadbury Schweppes' new calcium-enriched 7 Up Plus has really shaken up
    the soda market.

    Until now, soda companies have been under pressure not to add nutrients
    to sodas because of the FDA's so-called "Jelly Bean Rule," which
    forbids health claims on low-nutrient foods and drinks. The rule
    doesn't forbid fortification, but it has had that effect.

    The new 7 Up, which seems to get around the rule by not making any
    specific health claims, as well as by adding a bit of fruit juice to
    the soda, may open a whole new market. 7 Up Plus shatters the "good
    food/bad food" false dichotomy buttressed by the Jelly Bean Rule and
    preached by "food police" activists. Before 7 Up Plus, activists such
    as Michael Jacobson at the Center for Science in the Public Interest
    railed against soda pop as "liquid candy." Calls for bans on soda in
    school have gained in popularity. And in New York City schools, as
    part of an effort to fight obesity, even Diet Coke was banned from
    schools (only to be replaced with high sugar fruit juices.) But
    adding nutrients to soda takes the fizz out of the "liquid candy"
    argument.

    Those who argue against fortifying fun but non-nutrient-rich foods with
    important nutrients have it all wrong. They won't tolerate less than
    "perfect" choices for consumers who don't get adequate amounts of
    calcium in their diets -- especially teenagers. This is a
    counterproductive attitude.

    Certainly, we should redouble our efforts to educate consumers about
    overall good dietary habits, but until those efforts are fully
    effective, fortified sodas -- and yes, even candies, if marketed under
    a reasonable regulatory framework -- can be a positive development.

    As long as large sections of society (teenage girls, for instance) are
    not getting enough calcium, and as long as those very same consumers
    are already drinking sodas, why not provide them the choice of drinking
    a more nutrient-rich soft drink?

    Jeff Stier is Associate Director of the American Council on Science and
    Health.

    This information was found online at:
    http://www.acsh.org/factsfears/newsID.477/news_detail.asp

  2. Quoted message said:

    December 20, 2004

    Soda vs. the Jelly Bean Rule

    By Jeff Stier, Esq.

    Cadbury Schweppes' new calcium-enriched 7 Up Plus has really shaken up
    the soda market.

    Until now, soda companies have been under pressure not to add
    nutrients to sodas because of the FDA's so-called "Jelly Bean Rule,"
    which forbids health claims on low-nutrient foods and drinks. The
    rule doesn't forbid fortification, but it has had that effect.

    The new 7 Up, which seems to get around the rule by not making any
    specific health claims, as well as by adding a bit of fruit juice to
    the soda, may open a whole new market. 7 Up Plus shatters the "good
    food/bad food" false dichotomy buttressed by the Jelly Bean Rule and
    preached by "food police" activists. Before 7 Up Plus, activists such
    as Michael Jacobson at the Center for Science in the Public Interest
    railed against soda pop as "liquid candy." Calls for bans on soda in
    school have gained in popularity. And in New York City schools, as
    part of an effort to fight obesity, even Diet Coke was banned from
    schools (only to be replaced with high sugar fruit juices.) But
    adding nutrients to soda takes the fizz out of the "liquid candy"
    argument.

    Unfortunately, there are too many products masquerading as "good food"
    already. Do we really need soda joining the parade? I agree that it makes
    little sense to get rid of diet sodas and replace them with highly processed
    orange juice that is higher in sugar, and has probably lost its fiber and
    much of its vitamins. But a more sensible approach would be to have school
    children drink lowfat or fat-free milk instead of 7 Up.

    If the lines are blurred, perhaps we need more "jelly bean" rules, not
    fewer. As you said, nobody is stopping anybody from fortifying anything; it
    merely stops companies from making health claims about junk food.

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    December 20, 2004

    Quoted message said:

    Soda vs. the Jelly Bean Rule

    Quoted message said:

    By Jeff Stier, Esq.

    Quoted message said:

    Cadbury Schweppes' new calcium-enriched 7 Up Plus has really shaken


    up

    Quoted message said:

    the soda market.

    Quoted message said:

    Until now, soda companies have been under pressure not to add


    nutrients

    Quoted message said:

    to sodas because of the FDA's so-called "Jelly Bean Rule," which
    forbids health claims on low-nutrient foods and drinks. The rule
    doesn't forbid fortification, but it has had that effect.

    Quoted message said:

    The new 7 Up, which seems to get around the rule by not making any
    specific health claims, as well as by adding a bit of fruit juice to
    the soda, may open a whole new market. 7 Up Plus shatters the "good
    food/bad food" false dichotomy buttressed by the Jelly Bean Rule and
    preached by "food police" activists.

    Some of these food manufacturers (and I use this term very, very
    loosely for this company) have no scruples. Trying to disguise soda
    as something other than what it is -- garbage -- is a new low.

    Quoted message said:

    Before 7 Up Plus, activists such
    as Michael Jacobson at the Center for Science in the Public Interest
    railed against soda pop as "liquid candy."

    Which it is, but worse because soda has zero filling effect.

    I like the term liquid calories better.

    Quoted message said:

    Calls for bans on soda in
    school have gained in popularity. And in New York City schools, as
    part of an effort to fight obesity, even Diet Coke was banned from
    schools (only to be replaced with high sugar fruit juices.)

    The difference is 100% fruit juice starts with a real food (fruit) and
    can provide a healthy dose of nutrients. In contrast, soda starts as
    [censored] (sugar or artificial sweeteners) and provides absolutely nothing
    nutritionally. Dumping in one, or a few, cheapy synthetic vitamins
    doesn't change the fact that the "core" of soda is still [censored].

    Quoted message said:

    But
    adding nutrients to soda takes the fizz out of the "liquid candy"
    argument.

    No, it doesn't. It merely circumvents the argument.

    I think the "weapons of mass destruction" we need to worry about are
    the mass-marketed "foods/drinks" the food industry is pedaling.

    Quoted message said:

    Those who argue against fortifying fun but non-nutrient-rich foods


    with

    Quoted message said:

    important nutrients have it all wrong. They won't tolerate less than
    "perfect" choices for consumers who don't get adequate amounts of
    calcium in their diets -- especially teenagers. This is a
    counterproductive attitude.

    Obviously written by a guy whose parents didn't encourage him to eat
    and experience good quality, nutritious, natural foods. Probably ate
    whatever was "fun" instead of what was good for him. And now,
    physically, probably looks like it. The worse thing is, he's probably
    teaching his own kids the same terrible food choices.

    Quoted message said:

    Certainly, we should redouble our efforts to educate consumers about
    overall good dietary habits, but until those efforts are fully
    effective, fortified sodas -- and yes, even candies, if marketed


    under

    Quoted message said:

    a reasonable regulatory framework -- can be a positive development.

    I'm sorry, there's no other way to say it. This guy is a moron.

    The fact is there are, and will be, parents out there that will think
    these "fortified" sodas and candies are, if not good, at least
    acceptable to feed their children. And they'll figure, hey if my kids
    won't eat real fruit at least they're eating these "fortified" "fruit"
    jellybeans.

    Quoted message said:

    As long as large sections of society (teenage girls, for instance)


    are

    Quoted message said:

    not getting enough calcium,

    Then their parents should be encouraging these girls to eat real food
    that contains calcium.

    Quoted message said:

    and as long as those very same consumers are already drinking sodas,

    A habit which needs to end, btw.

    Quoted message said:

    why not provide them the choice of drinking a more nutrient-rich soft


    drink?

    "Soft-drink" is a good label. The more you drink, the softer you
    become.

    Quoted message said:

    Jeff Stier is Associate Director of the American Council on Science


    and

    Quoted message said:

    Health.

    Jeff Stier is a dingbat and should not have a signature block that
    contains the word health in it. But that's my opinion... what are
    everyone else's thoughts?

    Patrick

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