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  1. I finally got around to filing my old helicomatic's teeth. Well,
    actually the chrome plating made it impossible to file all but the
    largest gear, so I used a grinding wheel for the rest.
    Before the filing, looking at the gear edge-on reveled a little V
    shaped valley at the top of every tooth. If I had the derailer
    positioned just right the chain could walk up and the side of each link
    would settle in that valley and just slide around instead of driving the
    wheel. Usually happened standing, under load, just as a car was passing
    too closely on wet pavement or something.
    Anyway, I separated the gears and filed all but the smallest so that
    now the top of the tooth ramps toward the next larger gear. That way
    once the chain gets pulled up to the tops of the teeth it'll slip down
    and settle into place. Even when I have the derailer positioned between
    gears it will actually pull the derailer cage against it's spring just a
    hair and force it into alignment with the larger gear. Noisy, but makes
    it impossible to float between gears. No effect on shifting to smaller
    gears except that I don't overshoot as much.
    My drive train went from pretty hard to shift with a tendency to auto
    shift under heavy loads to easy shifting and a habit of reliably
    snapping into place on each gear. Almost feels like indexed shifting.
    Figured out a handy trick too. I don't have any chain whips, but I
    do have a chunk of old chain and a vise. I wrapped the chain around the
    small sprocket, clamped it in the vise, put on some gloves, and was able
    to unscrew the locking gear from my hub without damage. Took some
    cussing, but worked.

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    B.B. --I am not a goat! thegoat4 at airmail.net
    http://www.sorryeverybody.com/

  2. B.B. said:

    I finally got around to filing my old helicomatic's teeth. Well,
    actually the chrome plating made it impossible to file all but the
    largest gear, so I used a grinding wheel for the rest.
    Before the filing, looking at the gear edge-on reveled a little V
    shaped valley at the top of every tooth. If I had the derailer
    positioned just right the chain could walk up and the side of each link
    would settle in that valley and just slide around instead of driving the
    wheel. Usually happened standing, under load, just as a car was passing
    too closely on wet pavement or something.
    Anyway, I separated the gears and filed all but the smallest so that
    now the top of the tooth ramps toward the next larger gear. That way
    once the chain gets pulled up to the tops of the teeth it'll slip down
    and settle into place. Even when I have the derailer positioned between
    gears it will actually pull the derailer cage against it's spring just a
    hair and force it into alignment with the larger gear. Noisy, but makes
    it impossible to float between gears. No effect on shifting to smaller
    gears except that I don't overshoot as much.
    My drive train went from pretty hard to shift with a tendency to auto
    shift under heavy loads to easy shifting and a habit of reliably
    snapping into place on each gear. Almost feels like indexed shifting.
    Figured out a handy trick too. I don't have any chain whips, but I
    do have a chunk of old chain and a vise. I wrapped the chain around the
    small sprocket, clamped it in the vise, put on some gloves, and was able
    to unscrew the locking gear from my hub without damage. Took some
    cussing, but worked.

    Good work! Do your ramps have their tops pointing outward then, like
    some old SunTour teeth did?
    http://www.yellowjersey.org/stfw.html

  3. In article <[email hidden]>,
    dianne_1234 <[email hidden]> wrote:

    [...tooth reshaping...]

    Quoted message said:

    Good work! Do your ramps have their tops pointing outward then, like
    some old SunTour teeth did?
    http://www.yellowjersey.org/stfw.html

    I'm not quite sure what you mean by "pointing outward." My teeth
    have the smaller radius toward the wheel, like this:

    /
    | /
    | | /
    | | | /
    | | | | |
    |-|-|-|-|

    I left the smallest gear flat-toothed because it's joined to the
    next-smallest and I can't get in between to grind. That one hasn't
    tried to kill me yet, so I'll leave it.
    Judging by what I can make out on
    http://www.yellowjersey.org/NWNBOX.JPG Suntour's teeth were sloped the
    other way. I didn't do it that way because I thought it might make it
    harder to shift to larger gears. I guess it's not an issue after all.
    Actually, I can test it by flipping most of the gears around next
    time I have it apart.

    --
    B.B. --I am not a goat! thegoat4 at airmail.net
    http://www.sorryeverybody.com/

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