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  1. telegraph.co.ukmain.jhtml;jsessionid=CEMUUQKSXYHZ3QFIQMGSM5WAVCBQWJVC

    http://tinyurl.com/detlv

    Not having a go at the guy having a car - many people on this NG for
    instance have one (or more!)

    But:
    "My wife is very pro-driving. She hates cyclists and thinks buses get in
    the way."

    So that's OK then.
    Substitute 'horse riders' for 'cyclists' or any other group. Discuss.
    Stretching the point till it breaks, substitute 'racial group of your
    choice'.
    So its OK for the chattering classes to 'hate cyclists'?

  2. "John Hearns" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    telegraph.co.ukmain.jhtml;jsessionid=CEMUUQKSXYHZ3QFIQMGSM5WAVCBQWJVC

    http://tinyurl.com/detlv

    Not having a go at the guy having a car - many people on this NG for
    instance have one (or more!)

    But:
    "My wife is very pro-driving. She hates cyclists and thinks buses get in
    the way."

    So that's OK then.

    FWIW if you read the article, I believe the guy writing it is a cyclist (or
    at least, he cycles). And no doubt if he had said that [censored] hated the
    Jews, you'd believe he was endorsing that POV as well?

    Presumably the jist of your point is that you think newspaper articles
    should be censored so that its not possible to mention if someone hates
    some-thing/one, even if its true? Or is said tongue in cheek?

    --
    Tumbleweed

    email replies not necessary but to contact use;
    tumbleweednews at hotmail dot com

  3. Tumbleweed said:

    FWIW if you read the article, I believe the guy writing it is a cyclist
    (or at least, he cycles). And no doubt if he had said that [censored] hated
    the Jews, you'd believe he was endorsing that POV as well?


    Certainly not.
    My point is that it is acceptable for the chattering classes to say this.
    Lets' say the article says:
    "My wife hates Jews"
    (Yes, I know I'm being slightly ridiculous.)

    Quoted message said:

    Presumably the jist of your point is that you think newspaper articles
    should be censored so that its not possible to mention if someone hates
    some-thing/one, even if its true? Or is said tongue in cheek?


    Your point taken. No, I don't want articles censored.

  4. in message <[email hidden]>, John Hearns

    (') said:
    Tumbleweed said:

    FWIW if you read the article, I believe the guy writing it is a
    cyclist (or at least, he cycles). And no doubt if he had said that
    [censored] hated the Jews, you'd believe he was endorsing that POV as
    well?


    Certainly not.
    My point is that it is acceptable for the chattering classes to say
    this. Lets' say the article says:
    "My wife hates Jews"
    (Yes, I know I'm being slightly ridiculous.)

    The worrying fact is it's not merely among the chattering classes that
    this view is held. Fortunately, it's still a minority view... (No, I
    don't mean Jews).

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

    Hobbit ringleader gives Sauron One in the Eye.

  5. Simon Brooke said:

    in message <[email hidden]>, John Hearns

    (') said:
    Tumbleweed said:

    FWIW if you read the article, I believe the guy writing it is a
    cyclist (or at least, he cycles). And no doubt if he had said that
    [censored] hated the Jews, you'd believe he was endorsing that POV as
    well?


    Certainly not.
    My point is that it is acceptable for the chattering classes to say
    this. Lets' say the article says:
    "My wife hates Jews"
    (Yes, I know I'm being slightly ridiculous.)

    The worrying fact is it's not merely among the chattering classes that
    this view is held. Fortunately, it's still a minority view... (No, I
    don't mean Jews).

    Although that's surprisingly common, too.

    --
    Ambrose

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