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Should this sugar have caramelized?

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  1. Today's NYTimes food section had a recipe for lemon gumdrops. Reading
    the ingredient list, I said to myself, "Self, this sounds like candy
    even you can make." Hah! First, there were no lemons in the house
    (how'd that happen?) Well, a lemon will yield about 1/3 cup of juice,
    and I just bought 2 crates of clemantines, so that seemed like a good
    alternative. Ever try to zest a clemantine? Sharpened the knife 3
    times, since the grater acted like it had been used on rocks.

    Ok, we have everything at the ready. Instructions say "Boil 15 minutes
    after adding gelatin." Ok. Hey, what are these brown streaky things
    growing in my sugar syrup that I've stirred til my arm fell off, and
    continued stirring with the other one? At the end of 15 minutes, I
    have a light caramel, and the recipe says to add the juice and zest and
    boil for 5 more minutes!

    Needless to say, after adding the color drops (plus 2 drops of red
    since I was flavoring them orange), it's a rather ominus shade of
    orange, with those brown undertones.

    So my question, (if you've read this far) is "What temperature or heat
    setting do you use when boiling sugar syrup to keep it from turning
    brown? I'd like to try this again using lemon, and maybe grapefruit.

    Oh. You want to know what the recipe was without logging into the
    NYTimes website?

    Lemon Gumdrops

    Butter
    4 packets plain gelatin
    2 ½ cups sugar
    Juice of 1 lemon
    Zest of 1 orange
    3 drops yellow food coloring.

    1. Butter an 8-by-8-inch baking dish. Dissolve the gelatin in 1/2 cup
    water for 5 minutes. Combine 2 cups sugar and 1/2 cup water in a medium
    saucepan and bring to a boil. Stir constantly and wash down the sides
    of the pan several times with a pastry brush that has been dipped in
    cold water to prevent crystallization.

    2. Add the gelatin and continue boiling and stirring until it thickens,
    15 minutes.

    3. Add the lemon juice and orange zest and boil for 5 more minutes.
    Stir in the food coloring. Pour the mixture into the prepared dish and
    let set up for about 1 hour.

    4. Put the remaining sugar in a shallow bowl. Butter a large chef's
    knife and your fingers. Cut the lemon gel into 1/2-inch squares and
    coat with the sugar. Makes 200 to 250 gumdrops. Adapted from "Making
    Great Candy," by Laura Dover Doran.

    maxine in ri

  2. maxine in ri said:

    Today's NYTimes food section had a recipe for lemon gumdrops. Reading
    the ingredient list, I said to myself, "Self, this sounds like candy
    even you can make." Hah! First, there were no lemons in the house
    (how'd that happen?) Well, a lemon will yield about 1/3 cup of juice,
    and I just bought 2 crates of clemantines, so that seemed like a good
    alternative. Ever try to zest a clemantine? Sharpened the knife 3
    times, since the grater acted like it had been used on rocks.

    Ok, we have everything at the ready. Instructions say "Boil 15 minutes
    after adding gelatin." Ok. Hey, what are these brown streaky things
    growing in my sugar syrup that I've stirred til my arm fell off, and
    continued stirring with the other one? At the end of 15 minutes, I
    have a light caramel, and the recipe says to add the juice and zest and
    boil for 5 more minutes!

    Needless to say, after adding the color drops (plus 2 drops of red
    since I was flavoring them orange), it's a rather ominus shade of
    orange, with those brown undertones.

    So my question, (if you've read this far) is "What temperature or heat
    setting do you use when boiling sugar syrup to keep it from turning
    brown? I'd like to try this again using lemon, and maybe grapefruit.

    Oh. You want to know what the recipe was without logging into the
    NYTimes website?

    Lemon Gumdrops

    Butter
    4 packets plain gelatin
    2 ½ cups sugar
    Juice of 1 lemon
    Zest of 1 orange
    3 drops yellow food coloring.

    1. Butter an 8-by-8-inch baking dish. Dissolve the gelatin in 1/2 cup
    water for 5 minutes. Combine 2 cups sugar and 1/2 cup water in a medium
    saucepan and bring to a boil. Stir constantly and wash down the sides
    of the pan several times with a pastry brush that has been dipped in
    cold water to prevent crystallization.

    2. Add the gelatin and continue boiling and stirring until it thickens,
    15 minutes.

    3. Add the lemon juice and orange zest and boil for 5 more minutes.
    Stir in the food coloring. Pour the mixture into the prepared dish and
    let set up for about 1 hour.

    4. Put the remaining sugar in a shallow bowl. Butter a large chef's
    knife and your fingers. Cut the lemon gel into 1/2-inch squares and
    coat with the sugar. Makes 200 to 250 gumdrops. Adapted from "Making
    Great Candy," by Laura Dover Doran.

    maxine in ri

    You didn't mention it but the gelatin should be mixed with cold water
    first for 5 minutes before combining it with any hot liquid. Also,
    temperature is a better indicator of doneness rather than time. If you
    plan on making candy in the future buy a candy thermometer. Most of
    them come with temperature charts that tell you the proper temperature
    for each type of candy. If you don't have a candy thermometer you can
    use the "cold water test". After the candy has been boiling for
    several minutes take a half teaspoon of the syrup and drop it in some
    cold (not iced) water. If it dissolves completely then the candy is
    nowhere near being done. If it holds together then pick it up and see
    which one of these descriptions best fits.

    soft ball: Can be picked but flattens. Use for fudge or fondant
    firm ball: Holds shape unless pressed. Use for caramels
    hard ball: Holds shape though pliable. Use for divinity, taffy
    soft crack: Syrup separates into hard threads. Use for English toffee
    hard crack: Syrup separates into hard brittle threads. Use for peanut
    brittle.

    The syrup starts turning an amber color around 290 degrees F, which is
    around the soft crack stage. I suspect you'd probably want to cook
    gumdrops to maybe the hard ball stage which is around 260 degrees F.

  3. DJs0302 spoke these sage words:

    Quoted message said:

    You didn't mention it but the gelatin should be mixed with cold water
    first for 5 minutes before combining it with any hot liquid. Also,
    temperature is a better indicator of doneness rather than time. If you
    plan on making candy in the future buy a candy thermometer. Most of
    them come with temperature charts that tell you the proper temperature
    for each type of candy. If you don't have a candy thermometer you can
    use the "cold water test". After the candy has been boiling for
    several minutes take a half teaspoon of the syrup and drop it in some
    cold (not iced) water. If it dissolves completely then the candy is
    nowhere near being done. If it holds together then pick it up and see
    which one of these descriptions best fits.

    soft ball: Can be picked but flattens. Use for fudge or fondant
    firm ball: Holds shape unless pressed. Use for caramels
    hard ball: Holds shape though pliable. Use for divinity, taffy
    soft crack: Syrup separates into hard threads. Use for English toffee
    hard crack: Syrup separates into hard brittle threads. Use for peanut
    brittle.

    The syrup starts turning an amber color around 290 degrees F, which is
    around the soft crack stage. I suspect you'd probably want to cook
    gumdrops to maybe the hard ball stage which is around 260 degrees F.

    Thanks. As the directions had no comments about temperature, and I'm
    not a candy maker by trade (my fudge never "fudges"😉 I had no clue what
    I was doing. I do have a candy thermometer (they have recipes for
    salted butter caramels and cinnamon fireball candies that both require
    one), but wanted to try something that goes by time rather than temp.

    I have more gelatin, sugar and plan to pick up some lemons and oranges
    and try again tomorrow. Your advice should help. Any more problems
    will be my own dumb fault.

    maxine in ri

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