Shipping/Travel Containers?

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...
[q1]> I have carried, shipped, sent a bike all over the world, Usually a mid priced DF that could[/q1]
[q1]> easily be stashed on a military cargo flight or packed up a fed-exed. I would like some[/q1]
[q1]> feedback from those that have used commercially available bike specific shipping containers. I[/q1]
[q1]> want "easy". I can pack and ship my AERO in a regular bike box, but I would rather not have a[/q1]
[q1]> full assembelly project at my destination. Any ideas of what would work for a Bacchetta AERO??[/q1]
[q1]> or a STRADA Tour?[/q1]

I don't think it can get any easier than having to remove the pedals, seat, handlebar and riser
and one or more wheels. The secret to success on assembly is to not loosen any cables that will
need to be readjusted on the assembly end. The bike should be disassembled with a common 'on the
bike' tool kit. Other wise, fancy tools such as a pedal wrench and other tools will have to be
shipped with the bike. Small parts such as pedals can and will get lost during inspection which
may not happen in your view or control. Pack everything securely and have no loose parts bouncing
around inside the case.

My Experiences:

Stratus - BikePro Tandem case. Required the removal of the front wheel, the 'T' Bar and riser
(Getting a Flip-it made it a trivial task.) and RANS Seat. All fit into the BikePro Tandem case.
Disassembly= 1 hr. Assembly= 45 min.

Stratus - UPS Shipping (130" size Limit) Required the removal of the both wheels, the 'T' Bar and
riser and RANS Seat. The frame and 'T'-Bar and riser fit into one box, Seat and wheels into a
second. Note: If flown as luggage, two oversize baggage charges are incurred each way. UPS is far
cheaper. Assembly and disassembly times are about 2 hours.

Lightning Voyager - Fits into its own suitcase. Flys free. Disassembly= 1 hr. Assembly= 45 min.

My recommendation for the Strada: Look into the BikePro travel cases for overall length. Possibly
consider the BMX race case. If a Strada will fit inside with the wheels removed, 'Armor' (not just
pad) the Chainrings since it will likely get damaged otherwise. The fork mount will need to be moved
inside instead of at the front end. (this may not be trivial). The seat, H/B and stem riser and
wheels will fit inside. You will of course need to remove the pedals, stem riser and seat. Use cable
ties to strap the H/B-riser along side the frame. Pad everything with pipe foam insulation.

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Jude

Spent 2 hours packing up my Aerocycle last night to ship it down to Florida hope you find a
better solution.

I use the crateworks recumbent box recomended by Rich Pinto but you have to really take the bike
apart to fit it in the box.

I don't know if it is easier on the Aero to take the seat off but on my bike the M5 seat is a pain
to take on and off. A friend of mine who has the Aero told me he can pack it in an hour. I have to
take the front brake off to be able to remove the handle bars for packing.

Larry

"Cletus D. Lee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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[q1]> In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...[/q1]
[q2]> > I have carried, shipped, sent a bike all over the world, Usually a[/q2]
mid
[q2]> > priced DF that could easily be stashed on a military cargo flight or[/q2]
packed
[q2]> > up a fed-exed. I would like some feedback from those that have used commercially available bike[/q2]
[q2]> > specific shipping containers. I want "easy". I can pack[/q2]
and
[q2]> > ship my AERO in a regular bike box, but I would rather not have a full assembelly project at my[/q2]
[q2]> > destination. Any ideas of what would work for a Bacchetta AERO?? or a STRADA Tour?[/q2]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]> I don't think it can get any easier than having to remove the pedals,[/q1]
seat,
[q1]> handlebar and riser and one or more wheels. The secret to success on[/q1]
assembly
[q1]> is to not loosen any cables that will need to be readjusted on the[/q1]
assembly
[q1]> end. The bike should be disassembled with a common 'on the bike' tool[/q1]
kit.
[q1]> Other wise, fancy tools such as a pedal wrench and other tools will have[/q1]
to be
[q1]> shipped with the bike. Small parts such as pedals can and will get lost[/q1]
during
[q1]> inspection which may not happen in your view or control. Pack everything securely and have no[/q1]
[q1]> loose parts bouncing around inside the case.[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]> My Experiences:[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]> Stratus - BikePro Tandem case. Required the removal of the front wheel,[/q1]
the
[q1]> 'T' Bar and riser (Getting a Flip-it made it a trivial task.) and RANS[/q1]
Seat.
[q1]> All fit into the BikePro Tandem case. Disassembly= 1 hr. Assembly= 45 min.[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]> Stratus - UPS Shipping (130" size Limit) Required the removal of the both wheels, the 'T' Bar and[/q1]
[q1]> riser and RANS Seat. The frame and 'T'-Bar and[/q1]
riser
[q1]> fit into one box, Seat and wheels into a second. Note: If flown as[/q1]
luggage,
[q1]> two oversize baggage charges are incurred each way. UPS is far cheaper. Assembly and disassembly[/q1]
[q1]> times are about 2 hours.[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]> Lightning Voyager - Fits into its own suitcase. Flys free. Disassembly= 1[/q1]
hr.
[q1]> Assembly= 45 min.[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]> My recommendation for the Strada: Look into the BikePro travel cases for overall length. Possibly[/q1]
[q1]> consider the BMX race case. If a Strada will fit inside with the wheels removed, 'Armor' (not just[/q1]
[q1]> pad) the Chainrings[/q1]
since it
[q1]> will likely get damaged otherwise. The fork mount will need to be moved[/q1]
inside
[q1]> instead of at the front end. (this may not be trivial). The seat, H/B and[/q1]
stem
[q1]> riser and wheels will fit inside. You will of course need to remove the pedals, stem riser and[/q1]
[q1]> seat. Use cable ties to strap the H/B-riser along[/q1]
side
[q1]> the frame. Pad everything with pipe foam insulation.[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]> bikeprousa.combikeprousa.comOpen ↗[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]>[/q1]
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[q1]>[/q1]
[q1]> Cletus D. Lee Bacchetta Giro Lightning Voyager clee.orgclee.orgOpen ↗[/q1]
[q1]> - Bellaire, TX USA -[/q1]

Larry, I'm an expert packer...I was hoping not to have to take my bents down to far. I never throw
away the originial bent boxes so I have an ample supply of RANS and Bacchetta boxes. Should I fly
down to FL I will probably break it down and send it UPS insured to Bacchetta and build back up. I
do enough of this in my shop! I hate to have to do it on vacation. If I drive its another story.
Plenty of room to sleep next to my AERO with just the wheels removed.

Jude....///Bacchetta AERO St. Michaels and Tilghman Island.. Maryland Wheel Doctor Cycle and Sports,
Inc 1-800-586-6645 "Larry Shwartz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Jude

Spent 2 hours packing up my Aerocycle last night to ship it down to

Florida

Quoted message said:

hope you find a better solution.

I use the crateworks recumbent box recomended by Rich Pinto but you have

to

Quoted message said:

really take the bike apart to fit it in the box.

I don't know if it is easier on the Aero to take the seat off but on my

bike

Quoted message said:

the M5 seat is a pain to take on and off. A friend of mine who has the

Aero

Quoted message said:

told me he can pack it in an hour. I have to take the front brake off to

be

Quoted message said:

able to remove the handle bars for packing.

Larry

"Cletus D. Lee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

I have carried, shipped, sent a bike all over the world, Usually a

mid

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

priced DF that could easily be stashed on a military cargo flight or

packed

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

up a fed-exed. I would like some feedback from those that have used commercially available
bike specific shipping containers. I want "easy". I can pack

and

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

ship my AERO in a regular bike box, but I would rather not have a full assembelly project at
my destination. Any ideas of what would work for

a

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Bacchetta AERO?? or a STRADA Tour?

I don't think it can get any easier than having to remove the pedals,

seat,

Quoted message said:

handlebar and riser and one or more wheels. The secret to success on

assembly

Quoted message said:

is to not loosen any cables that will need to be readjusted on the

assembly

Quoted message said:

end. The bike should be disassembled with a common 'on the bike' tool

kit.

Quoted message said:

Other wise, fancy tools such as a pedal wrench and other tools will have

to be

Quoted message said:

shipped with the bike. Small parts such as pedals can and will get lost

during

Quoted message said:

inspection which may not happen in your view or control. Pack

everything

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

securely and have no loose parts bouncing around inside the case.

My Experiences:

Stratus - BikePro Tandem case. Required the removal of the front wheel,

the

Quoted message said:

'T' Bar and riser (Getting a Flip-it made it a trivial task.) and RANS

Seat.

Quoted message said:

All fit into the BikePro Tandem case. Disassembly= 1 hr. Assembly= 45

min.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Stratus - UPS Shipping (130" size Limit) Required the removal of the

both

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

wheels, the 'T' Bar and riser and RANS Seat. The frame and 'T'-Bar and

riser

Quoted message said:

fit into one box, Seat and wheels into a second. Note: If flown as

luggage,

Quoted message said:

two oversize baggage charges are incurred each way. UPS is far cheaper. Assembly and disassembly
times are about 2 hours.

Lightning Voyager - Fits into its own suitcase. Flys free. Disassembly=

1

Quoted message said:

hr.

Quoted message said:

Assembly= 45 min.

My recommendation for the Strada: Look into the BikePro travel cases for overall length.
Possibly consider the BMX race case. If a Strada will

fit

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

inside with the wheels removed, 'Armor' (not just pad) the Chainrings

since it

Quoted message said:

will likely get damaged otherwise. The fork mount will need to be moved

inside

Quoted message said:

instead of at the front end. (this may not be trivial). The seat, H/B

and

Quoted message said:

stem

Quoted message said:

riser and wheels will fit inside. You will of course need to remove the pedals, stem riser and
seat. Use cable ties to strap the H/B-riser along

side

Quoted message said:

the frame. Pad everything with pipe foam insulation.

bikeprousa.combikeprousa.comOpen ↗

--

Cletus D. Lee Bacchetta Giro Lightning Voyager clee.orgclee.orgOpen ↗
- Bellaire, TX USA -

Jude

My bike was picked up yesterday by FedEx booked thru sportsexpress.comSportsOpen ↗

Hopefully when I arrive on Fri my bike will be at the hotel in 1 piece. I flew with it once using
the fly free benefit from League of American Bicyclist, but in December when I was planning this
trip LAB did not have the 2003 program in place.

Economics are $45 service fee with the fly free program vs $100 for round trip on FedEx. I used 3
day service since I am not riding much up hear in the New England with ice on the roads.

Larry

"Jude T. McGloin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Larry, I'm an expert packer...I was hoping not to have to take my bents

down

Quoted message said:

to far. I never throw away the originial bent boxes so I have an ample supply of RANS and
Bacchetta boxes. Should I fly down to FL I will

probably

Quoted message said:

break it down and send it UPS insured to Bacchetta and build back up. I do enough of this in my
shop! I hate to have to do it on vacation. If I drive its another story. Plenty of room to sleep
next to my AERO with just the wheels removed.

Jude....///Bacchetta AERO St. Michaels and Tilghman Island.. Maryland Wheel Doctor Cycle and
Sports, Inc 1-800-586-6645 "Larry Shwartz" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Jude

Spent 2 hours packing up my Aerocycle last night to ship it down to

Florida

Quoted message said:

hope you find a better solution.

I use the crateworks recumbent box recomended by Rich Pinto but you have

to

Quoted message said:

really take the bike apart to fit it in the box.

I don't know if it is easier on the Aero to take the seat off but on my

bike

Quoted message said:

the M5 seat is a pain to take on and off. A friend of mine who has the

Aero

Quoted message said:

told me he can pack it in an hour. I have to take the front brake off to

be

Quoted message said:

able to remove the handle bars for packing.

Larry

"Cletus D. Lee" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

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In article <[email hidden]>,

[email hidden]

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says...
> I have carried, shipped, sent a bike all over the world, Usually

a

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

mid

Quoted message said:

> priced DF that could easily be stashed on a military cargo flight or

packed

Quoted message said:

> up a fed-exed. I would like some feedback from those that have used

commercially

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> available bike specific shipping containers. I want "easy". I can

pack

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

and

Quoted message said:

> ship my AERO in a regular bike box, but I would rather not have a

full

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> assembelly project at my destination. Any ideas of what would work

for

Quoted message said:

a

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> Bacchetta AERO?? or a STRADA Tour?

I don't think it can get any easier than having to remove the pedals,

seat,

Quoted message said:

handlebar and riser and one or more wheels. The secret to success on

assembly

Quoted message said:

is to not loosen any cables that will need to be readjusted on the

assembly

Quoted message said:

end. The bike should be disassembled with a common 'on the bike' tool

kit.

Quoted message said:

Other wise, fancy tools such as a pedal wrench and other tools will

have

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

to be

Quoted message said:

shipped with the bike. Small parts such as pedals can and will get

lost

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

during

Quoted message said:

inspection which may not happen in your view or control. Pack

everything

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

securely and have no loose parts bouncing around inside the case.

My Experiences:

Stratus - BikePro Tandem case. Required the removal of the front

wheel,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

the

Quoted message said:

'T' Bar and riser (Getting a Flip-it made it a trivial task.) and RANS

Seat.

Quoted message said:

All fit into the BikePro Tandem case. Disassembly= 1 hr. Assembly= 45

min.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Stratus - UPS Shipping (130" size Limit) Required the removal of the

both

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

wheels, the 'T' Bar and riser and RANS Seat. The frame and 'T'-Bar

and

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

riser

Quoted message said:

fit into one box, Seat and wheels into a second. Note: If flown as

luggage,

Quoted message said:

two oversize baggage charges are incurred each way. UPS is far

cheaper.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Assembly and disassembly times are about 2 hours.

Lightning Voyager - Fits into its own suitcase. Flys free.

Disassembly=

Quoted message said:

1

Quoted message said:

hr.

Quoted message said:

Assembly= 45 min.

My recommendation for the Strada: Look into the BikePro travel cases

for

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

overall length. Possibly consider the BMX race case. If a Strada will

fit

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

inside with the wheels removed, 'Armor' (not just pad) the Chainrings

since it

Quoted message said:

will likely get damaged otherwise. The fork mount will need to be

moved

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

inside

Quoted message said:

instead of at the front end. (this may not be trivial). The seat, H/B

and

Quoted message said:

stem

Quoted message said:

riser and wheels will fit inside. You will of course need to remove

the

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

pedals, stem riser and seat. Use cable ties to strap the H/B-riser

along

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

side

Quoted message said:

the frame. Pad everything with pipe foam insulation.

bikeprousa.combikeprousa.comOpen ↗

--

Cletus D. Lee Bacchetta Giro Lightning Voyager clee.orgclee.orgOpen ↗
- Bellaire, TX USA -