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Serious Muni/trials Wanted 24'

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  1. I want a serious unicycle that has these qualifications

    Preferably not a used unicycle

    1.minimal slop (I want the pedals to be really close together)

    2.splined axle

    3.big tire capacity (I want to be able to host a 24X3.0-24X3.7)

    4.light weight! minimal weight.

    these four qualification MUST be met.

    Please help me find or build this uni.

    I am ok with spending money.

    email me at [email hidden]
    or you can even call me 1 (559) 859 3287

    Joseph Campbell

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  2. Welcome back Joseph! He says he's back after a six-year hiatus. He was
    the winner of the first Long Jump competition we ever had at the USA
    convention (1999) and used to attend the earlier California MUni
    Weekends.

    By his description it looks like he's more interested in custom
    building than buying "off the shelf" though I don't know if he's looked
    at the cycles that are on the market now. Here are some answers to some
    of the questions he emailed to me, that I hadn't gotten back to him
    on:

    1. So you think 9 feet is the record? thats a good jump. flat
    ground?

    There's a video on the forums of a guy doing a jump of reportedly 9',
    8", over a gap. That's not official, but it's farther than whatever the
    official competition record is.

    2. "Hotter", you mean unicycling was more popular right?

    Unicycling, especially in the area of Trials and Street riding, has
    gotten enormously more popular in the last few years. There's a lot
    more competition for you today, which explains why you actually have
    several brands of very good unicycles to choose from, without having to
    go custom unless you want to.

    3. I want to jump down stairs and do some stuff that requires some
    speed like the long jump. Basically get up to par with these riders
    now but in my own style, skill and flow. Also, I feel unstable on a 20
    incher.

    If your focus will be on tricks and jumpy-type stuff, 20" is what most
    people are using. 24" (or larger) for riding trails, which can include
    lots of crazy stuff as well, but in the world of straight Trials and
    Street, everybody's on a 20". But that of course is up to you. Click
    around the forums, especially the video forum, to see what people are
    showing off.

    4. SO where are all the specs on these unicycles? like weight, slop,
    and tire size.

    http://www.unicycle.uk.com/ has a page that compares all the splined
    hubs, and another page that compares only the ISIS-standard ones. But I
    can't find those pages! Anybody know the link, or where to find similar
    stats? Beyond that, your best bet is to try to figure out what
    components you want to use, then get the specs for those specific
    ones.

    5. you mentioned Qu-ax, Koxx? whats that?

    Those are brands. Koxx is sold in the US through 'Renegade Juggling'
    (http://www.renegadejuggling.com/Web_store/rev3k/index.html). Qu-ax
    products are available through UDC and elsewhere.

    6. Do you know which uni has the largest tire?

    Tires are made by tire companies. Currently they still top out at 3" (I
    think), though we've been waiting a few years for a super-wide Large
    Marge, which I believe will be closer to 4". The 'Surly Conundrum'
    (http://www.unicycle.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=1005) was designed to
    fit this tire, but the tire's still not on the market yet...

    7. why do the hunters and the dm unicycles cost more? what is better so
    that people are willing to spend more than twice as much?

    They're not necessarily better, they were *first.* DM, Hunter and
    Wilder frames are hand made, by people who live in places with a high
    cost of living. The KH frames are factory-made in Taiwan, but they were
    *designed* by Kris Holm himself so I trust their strength and quality.
    Notice how UDC says "only two left" on the DMs? That's because they
    haven't ordered any new ones in years, and are hoping some collectors
    will take a liking to those last ones. They've been surpassed by
    cheaper unicycles that are arguably better, or at least equal in
    quality.

    I still recommend the 'KH MUni'
    (http://www.unicycle.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=951) for now, unless
    you're completely set on having something custom made. Then I'd start
    by researching the hub and tire, and then contacting 'Rick Hunter'
    (http://www.huntercycles.com/) as a great framebuilder.

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  3. johnfoss said:

    http://www.unicycle.uk.com/ has a page that compares all the splined
    hubs, and another page that compares only the ISIS-standard ones. But I
    can't find those pages! Anybody know the link, or where to find similar
    stats? Beyond that, your best bet is to try to figure out what
    components you want to use, then get the specs for those specific
    ones....

    Here (

    johnfoss said:

    )

    johnfoss said:

    Currently they still top out at 3" (I think), though we've been waiting
    a few years for a super-wide Large Marge, which I believe will be
    closer to 4". The 'Surly Conundrum'
    (http://www.unicycle.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=1005) was designed to
    fit this tire, but the tire's still not on the market yet...

    The Santa Barbara (SB) guys have ridden the 26X3.7" Endomorph and I
    believe their opinion was that it's overkill for downhill Muni. They
    complained that it was too springy. I have heard that it is good in
    sand and snow.

    I think the exsessive springyness comes from the sidewalls being too
    thin for Muni. I've thought about the idea of taking a worn tire
    then cutting off the bead, center portion of the tread and shaving it
    down so the entire outside is smoooooth. Then glue each of these two
    halves to each inner side of the Endomorph. I read about this being
    done for early downhill mountain b*kes before tires w/ properly thick
    sidewalls were available. It had the desired result (more damp, less
    springy, and fewer pinch flats) but a bit heavy. I'm not sure how
    many frames will fit this tire. Of course the Surely will fit, but I
    have seen one on a Hunter style 29er frame 'Tholub'
    (http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/member.php?u=804)'s

    The best muni frame and best off the shelf Muni: a Kris Holm - super
    strong, THE lightest, and has Magura brake mounts.

    Ideal hard core Muni (from what I've read, mostly the SB guys):
    KH 24 frame
    Large Marge rim
    Moment hub w/ 165 cranks (or possibly longer if you can find them in
    ISIS)
    Thompson seat post
    Scott Wallice carbon fiber (cf) seat base and high tech air seat
    cf bumper and handle
    Nokian Gazzaloddi 24X3 tire
    heavy duty tube
    Magura brake
    Wallis cf break leaver extender

    On crank length: I think you can go too long. I have 170's on my DX
    and I find it hard to pedal smoothly, so spinning isn't really
    possible and it's hard to maintain momentum going up hills and over
    bumbs. I tried 165's and at just 5 mm shorter it made a huge
    difference in being able to spin and keep my momentum.

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    skilewis74

    Ride everywhere and never just ride anywhere. If you can ride where you
    are going within a hour, do it, and if you can do a trick 50-75% of the
    time do it along the way.
    Parafrasing a pro skater when asked for advise to kids who wanted to
    get much better and maybee turn pro one day.
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