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Seattle: watch for cops

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  1. Warning! This morning a pair of cops were standing across the street
    from the PCC in Fremont ticketing cyclists who ran the stop sign. In
    other words, virtually everyone they had time to write up. They were
    still working on two others as I went through (just before I noticed
    them) but they got the next guy 30 seconds behind me. So, watch out in
    this area or other intersections where you normally wouldn't put a foot
    down.

    Particularly ridiculous in the morning, when most riders are going up
    the slight hill and entering the intersection at barely 10 mph. Hard
    not to see this as some sort of responcse to the SPD's embarassment
    over tussling with the Critical Mass guys recently. If they just
    wanted to encourage "respect for all laws," why not set up a speed trap
    a few blocks away on Leary, where the limit is 30 and most cars are
    going 37-45? An equally high proportion of scoff-laws, and doing
    something that's actually risky!
    mx

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    Warning! This morning a pair of cops were standing across the street
    from the PCC in Fremont ticketing cyclists who ran the stop sign. In
    other words, virtually everyone they had time to write up.

    If the cyclists were flying through the signs like they do around here,
    then they had it coming. On the other hand, if they're writing up folks
    that do a 2mph rolling stop in order to avoid clipping out of their
    spds--that's over the top. Same thing goes for red lights. If the
    cyclist treats it as a stop sign and makes an effort to be safe, then
    let it slide. Can't have your cake and eat it too, if you want to use
    the road legitimately, follow the rules.

    Sounds like this was exacerbated by Critical Mass--which is not usually
    a pro-bike event. The two I did out of curiosity in Chicago, were
    simply disorganized acts of hostility and self importance. You reap
    what you sow.

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    Warning! This morning a pair of cops were standing across the street
    from the PCC in Fremont ticketing cyclists who ran the stop sign.

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  4. Quoted message said:

    Warning! This morning a pair of cops were standing across the street
    from the PCC in Fremont ticketing cyclists who ran the stop sign. In
    other words, virtually everyone they had time to write up. They were
    still working on two others as I went through (just before I noticed
    them) but they got the next guy 30 seconds behind me. So, watch out in
    this area or other intersections where you normally wouldn't put a foot
    down.

    Particularly ridiculous in the morning, when most riders are going up
    the slight hill and entering the intersection at barely 10 mph. Hard
    not to see this as some sort of responcse to the SPD's embarassment
    over tussling with the Critical Mass guys recently.

    It wasn't the SPD but a few King County Sherrif's undercover
    deputies who tangled with the wide-eyed (but dutifully helmeted)
    Critical Mass kids last month. The SPD actually has a
    nice way of de-escalating the Mass rides by escorting
    them through the city center nice n' easy, Canadian style--
    as opposed to the strategy favored by the NYPD, which is
    to harrass, ticket, arrest, impound, and dog the ride into
    nonexistence. High-ranking members of the SPD have
    criticized the deputies over this incident, and it has
    highlighted what seems to be a bit of a turf war
    between the two departments, over who should
    do what where. I don't know why I know this.

    Robert

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