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  1. "JD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    "TBF" <[email hidden]> wrote in message


    news:<[email hidden]>....

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    when I hear a loud
    crack. Thinking it was a branch or twig, I keep riding until I notice


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    rear wheel is doing a crab-walk.

    I look down and I see this!
    http://members.rogers.com/jr.miller/interest.htm

    My swingarm is destroyed. Before anyone asks...no I don't do jumps or
    downhill, strictly XC. I've got too many bills and an 8 year old to keep


    in

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    XBOX and Gamecube games to be risking time off work. I've ridden it


    about 1

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    1/2 seasons without a hitch. The girl rides on ahead to fetch the car,


    and a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    half hour later I'm heading home in disbelief wondering what it could


    have

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    been like if that had happend on a fast descent.

    Anyway, luckily I have a spare swingarm.

    From: TBF ([email hidden])
    Subject: Re: Opinions for the noob
    Newsgroups: alt.mountain-bike
    Date: 2004-03-14 11:39:04 PST
    "Jamis makes rock solid rigs without the costs of other high end
    manufacters."

    Please define "rock solid". The catastrophic failure of that swingarm
    tells a different story.

    From: ..::TBF::.. ([email hidden])
    Subject: Re: What To Buy? Jamis XLT, Specialized Enduro, nothing?
    Newsgroups: alt.mountain-bike
    Date: 2003-05-19 03:19:12 PST
    "The tell your friend to get his Jamis built up properly. I've been
    riding mine for months now and it's tight and fast..."

    Man you always sound like the wrong side of the bed catches you
    everyday...get a girlfriend or something dude.

  2. "Slacker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Benjamin Weiner said:
    TBF said:

    I look down and I see this!
    http://members.rogers.com/jr.miller/interest.htm

    It was probably already cracked part way through and
    something just finished it off. If you look at the exposed
    surfaces, there might be a dark part and a light part -
    the dark part is what was already cracked (dark from
    oxidation and dirt) and light is the fresh crack. Like
    in the pictures of broken cranks at
    http://pardo.net/pardo/bike/pic/fail/FAIL-001.html

    Here's a particularly good shot of the light/dark feature:
    http://pardo.net/pardo/bike/pic/fail/FAIL-008.html


    Dang, that's nuts! (both (TBF's and the crank)

    Didn't know Campy stuff was breakable.

    Why would you think that stuff was unbreakable? They don't do anything
    really special in making their cranks.

    Did you happen to catch this one? It looks sorta familiar.

    http://pardo.net/pardo/bike/pic/fail/FAIL-011.html

  3. "TBF" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "JD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    "TBF" <[email hidden]> wrote in message


    news:<[email hidden]>....

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    when I hear a loud
    crack. Thinking it was a branch or twig, I keep riding until I notice


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    rear wheel is doing a crab-walk.

    I look down and I see this!
    http://members.rogers.com/jr.miller/interest.htm

    My swingarm is destroyed. Before anyone asks...no I don't do jumps or
    downhill, strictly XC. I've got too many bills and an 8 year old to


    keep

    Quoted message said:

    in

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    XBOX and Gamecube games to be risking time off work. I've ridden it


    about 1

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    1/2 seasons without a hitch. The girl rides on ahead to fetch the car,


    and a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    half hour later I'm heading home in disbelief wondering what it could


    have

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    been like if that had happend on a fast descent.

    Anyway, luckily I have a spare swingarm.

    From: TBF ([email hidden])
    Subject: Re: Opinions for the noob
    Newsgroups: alt.mountain-bike
    Date: 2004-03-14 11:39:04 PST
    "Jamis makes rock solid rigs without the costs of other high end
    manufacters."

    Please define "rock solid". The catastrophic failure of that swingarm
    tells a different story.

    From: ..::TBF::.. ([email hidden])
    Subject: Re: What To Buy? Jamis XLT, Specialized Enduro, nothing?
    Newsgroups: alt.mountain-bike
    Date: 2003-05-19 03:19:12 PST
    "The tell your friend to get his Jamis built up properly. I've been
    riding mine for months now and it's tight and fast..."

    Man you always sound like the wrong side of the bed catches you
    everyday...get a girlfriend or something dude.

    And you always sound like a guy who likes to make glowing recommendations
    about the stuff he buys without using it for long enough period to form a
    valid opinion.

    JD only wrote what some of the rest of us were thinking.

  4. "KLydesdale" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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    "TBF" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "JD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "TBF" <[email hidden]> wrote in message


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    Quoted message said:
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    > when I hear a loud
    > crack. Thinking it was a branch or twig, I keep riding until I notice


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > rear wheel is doing a crab-walk.
    >
    > I look down and I see this!
    > http://members.rogers.com/jr.miller/interest.htm
    >
    > My swingarm is destroyed. Before anyone asks...no I don't do jumps or
    > downhill, strictly XC. I've got too many bills and an 8 year old to


    keep
    in

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > XBOX and Gamecube games to be risking time off work. I've ridden it


    about 1

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > 1/2 seasons without a hitch. The girl rides on ahead to fetch the car,


    and a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > half hour later I'm heading home in disbelief wondering what it could


    have

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > been like if that had happend on a fast descent.
    >
    > Anyway, luckily I have a spare swingarm.

    From: TBF ([email hidden])
    Subject: Re: Opinions for the noob
    Newsgroups: alt.mountain-bike
    Date: 2004-03-14 11:39:04 PST
    "Jamis makes rock solid rigs without the costs of other high end
    manufacters."

    Please define "rock solid". The catastrophic failure of that swingarm
    tells a different story.

    From: ..::TBF::.. ([email hidden])
    Subject: Re: What To Buy? Jamis XLT, Specialized Enduro, nothing?
    Newsgroups: alt.mountain-bike
    Date: 2003-05-19 03:19:12 PST
    "The tell your friend to get his Jamis built up properly. I've been
    riding mine for months now and it's tight and fast..."

    Man you always sound like the wrong side of the bed catches you
    everyday...get a girlfriend or something dude.

    And you always sound like a guy who likes to make glowing recommendations
    about the stuff he buys without using it for long enough period to form a
    valid opinion.

    Do you mean like the glowing recommendations for Trek's Y bike that
    JD wrote?

    Quoted message said:

    JD only wrote what some of the rest of us were thinking.

    So did I.

  5. little ricky white said:

    KL wrote:
    Do you mean like the glowing recommendations for Trek's Y bike that
    JD wrote?

    Quoted message said:

    JD only wrote what some of the rest of us were thinking.

    Quoted message said:

    So did I.

    You know how to use Google, ricky. Dredge it up and show us all where
    my "glowing recommendations" were posted.

    JD

  6. "TBF" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    "JD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "TBF" <[email hidden]> wrote in message


    news:<[email hidden]>....

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    when I hear a loud
    crack. Thinking it was a branch or twig, I keep riding until I notice


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    rear wheel is doing a crab-walk.

    I look down and I see this!
    http://members.rogers.com/jr.miller/interest.htm

    My swingarm is destroyed. Before anyone asks...no I don't do jumps or
    downhill, strictly XC. I've got too many bills and an 8 year old to keep


    in

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    XBOX and Gamecube games to be risking time off work. I've ridden it


    about 1

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    1/2 seasons without a hitch. The girl rides on ahead to fetch the car,


    and a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    half hour later I'm heading home in disbelief wondering what it could


    have

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    been like if that had happend on a fast descent.

    Anyway, luckily I have a spare swingarm.

    From: TBF ([email hidden])
    Subject: Re: Opinions for the noob
    Newsgroups: alt.mountain-bike
    Date: 2004-03-14 11:39:04 PST
    "Jamis makes rock solid rigs without the costs of other high end
    manufacters."

    Please define "rock solid". The catastrophic failure of that swingarm
    tells a different story.

    Quoted message said:

    Man you always sound like the wrong side of the bed catches you
    everyday...get a girlfriend or something dude.

    How do those crow feathers taste, man? Get a real bike or something, dude.

    JD

  7. "KLydesdale" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "TBF" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "JD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "TBF" <[email hidden]> wrote in message


    news:<[email hidden]>....

    Quoted message said:

    > when I hear a loud
    > crack. Thinking it was a branch or twig, I keep riding until I


    notice

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the

    Quoted message said:

    > rear wheel is doing a crab-walk.
    >
    > I look down and I see this!
    > http://members.rogers.com/jr.miller/interest.htm
    >
    > My swingarm is destroyed. Before anyone asks...no I don't do jumps


    or

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > downhill, strictly XC. I've got too many bills and an 8 year old to


    keep

    Quoted message said:

    in

    Quoted message said:

    > XBOX and Gamecube games to be risking time off work. I've ridden it


    about 1

    Quoted message said:

    > 1/2 seasons without a hitch. The girl rides on ahead to fetch the


    car,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and a

    Quoted message said:

    > half hour later I'm heading home in disbelief wondering what it


    could

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    have

    Quoted message said:

    > been like if that had happend on a fast descent.
    >
    > Anyway, luckily I have a spare swingarm.

    From: TBF ([email hidden])
    Subject: Re: Opinions for the noob
    Newsgroups: alt.mountain-bike
    Date: 2004-03-14 11:39:04 PST
    "Jamis makes rock solid rigs without the costs of other high end
    manufacters."

    Please define "rock solid". The catastrophic failure of that swingarm
    tells a different story.

    And you always sound like a guy who likes to make glowing recommendations
    about the stuff he buys without using it for long enough period to form a
    valid opinion.

    JD only wrote what some of the rest of us were thinking.

    Well I found a pretty interesting thread about JD and his Trek, sounds
    remarkably similar. Pot calling the kettle black??

    I like the Jamis frames, one bad production is not gonna change that.


  8. Quoted message said:

    How do those crow feathers taste, man? Get a real bike or something,


    dude.

    Quoted message said:


    JD

    They taste like crow fool. At least I'm man enough to admit it. Should I get
    a bike like yours, would that be "real"?

  9. [email hidden] (JD) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    little ricky white said:

    KL wrote:
    Do you mean like the glowing recommendations for Trek's Y bike that
    JD wrote?

    Quoted message said:

    JD only wrote what some of the rest of us were thinking.

    Quoted message said:

    So did I.

    You know how to use Google, ricky. Dredge it up and show us all where
    my "glowing recommendations" were posted.

    Hey, no problem.

    This first one is glowing pretty bright!

    "Even though mine broke (and has since been
    replaced under warranty), I still think that the Y ride is a
    damn good one for the money and I intend to ride it until it
    breaks again."

    "when we rode at Bartlett, I was wishing I had my Y
    bike that had been in warranty replacement since mid-December"

    A poster wrote he was going from a Trek 820 to a
    Trek Y-Bike and JD replied:

    "You'll love the difference Mikel. Going from my lead sled Trek 850 to
    my Y11, I surely did."

    In response to an ad for a URT Y-11 on EBay:

    "Yeah?, so what's the spec?
    JD interested in a Y11"

    Talking about his Trek Y bike, JD wrote:

    "I like mine and still think that for an older design,
    it's a great bike."

    It's time to backpedal or eat it too.

  10. KLydesdale said:

    "Slacker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:

    Didn't know Campy stuff was breakable.

    Why would you think that stuff was unbreakable? They don't do anything
    really special in making their cranks.

    Well, they do have a reputation for quality, and besides, they're too
    pretty to break ;-)

    Quoted message said:

    Did you happen to catch this one? It looks sorta familiar.

    http://pardo.net/pardo/bike/pic/fail/FAIL-011.html


    Now that's just scary :-( I pray that I never experience something like
    that.
    --
    Slacker

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    "JD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    > > when I hear a loud
    > > crack. Thinking it was a branch or twig, I keep riding until I


    notice

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the

    Quoted message said:

    > > rear wheel is doing a crab-walk.
    > >
    > > I look down and I see this!
    > > http://members.rogers.com/jr.miller/interest.htm
    > >
    > > My swingarm is destroyed. Before anyone asks...no I don't do jumps


    or

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > downhill, strictly XC. I've got too many bills and an 8 year old


    to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    keep
    in

    Quoted message said:

    > > XBOX and Gamecube games to be risking time off work. I've ridden


    it

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    about 1

    Quoted message said:

    > > 1/2 seasons without a hitch. The girl rides on ahead to fetch the


    car,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and a

    Quoted message said:

    > > half hour later I'm heading home in disbelief wondering what it


    could

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    have

    Quoted message said:

    > > been like if that had happend on a fast descent.
    > >
    > > Anyway, luckily I have a spare swingarm.
    >
    > From: TBF ([email hidden])
    > Subject: Re: Opinions for the noob
    > Newsgroups: alt.mountain-bike
    > Date: 2004-03-14 11:39:04 PST
    > "Jamis makes rock solid rigs without the costs of other high end
    > manufacters."
    >
    > Please define "rock solid". The catastrophic failure of that


    swingarm

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > tells a different story.
    >
    > From: ..::TBF::.. ([email hidden])
    > Subject: Re: What To Buy? Jamis XLT, Specialized Enduro, nothing?
    > Newsgroups: alt.mountain-bike
    > Date: 2003-05-19 03:19:12 PST
    > "The tell your friend to get his Jamis built up properly. I've been
    > riding mine for months now and it's tight and fast..."

    Man you always sound like the wrong side of the bed catches you
    everyday...get a girlfriend or something dude.

    And you always sound like a guy who likes to make glowing


    recommendations

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    about the stuff he buys without using it for long enough period to form


    a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    valid opinion.

    Do you mean like the glowing recommendations for Trek's Y bike that
    JD wrote?

    Those comments JD made about his Y bike pale in comparison to [censored] that TBF
    posted about his Jamis.

  12. "TBF" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    How do those crow feathers taste, man? Get a real bike or something,


    dude.

    Quoted message said:


    JD

    They taste like crow fool. At least I'm man enough to admit it. Should I


    get

    Quoted message said:

    a bike like yours, would that be "real"?

    How about you just stop "crowing" about the stuff you own simply because you
    own it?

  13. "TBF" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "KLydesdale" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "JD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    > "TBF" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    > > when I hear a loud
    > > crack. Thinking it was a branch or twig, I keep riding until I


    notice

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the
    > > rear wheel is doing a crab-walk.
    > >
    > > I look down and I see this!
    > > http://members.rogers.com/jr.miller/interest.htm
    > >
    > > My swingarm is destroyed. Before anyone asks...no I don't do jumps


    or

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > downhill, strictly XC. I've got too many bills and an 8 year old


    to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    keep

    Quoted message said:

    in
    > > XBOX and Gamecube games to be risking time off work. I've ridden


    it

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    about 1
    > > 1/2 seasons without a hitch. The girl rides on ahead to fetch the


    car,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and a
    > > half hour later I'm heading home in disbelief wondering what it


    could

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    have
    > > been like if that had happend on a fast descent.
    > >
    > > Anyway, luckily I have a spare swingarm.
    >
    > From: TBF ([email hidden])
    > Subject: Re: Opinions for the noob
    > Newsgroups: alt.mountain-bike
    > Date: 2004-03-14 11:39:04 PST
    > "Jamis makes rock solid rigs without the costs of other high end
    > manufacters."
    >
    > Please define "rock solid". The catastrophic failure of that


    swingarm

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > tells a different story.
    >

    And you always sound like a guy who likes to make glowing


    recommendations

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    about the stuff he buys without using it for long enough period to form


    a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    valid opinion.

    JD only wrote what some of the rest of us were thinking.

    Well I found a pretty interesting thread about JD and his Trek, sounds
    remarkably similar. Pot calling the kettle black??

    The key difference here, which you seem to be missing, is that JD didn't
    really trumpet the virtues of his Y-bike before it broke like you did with
    your Jamis.

    Quoted message said:


    I like the Jamis frames, one bad production is not gonna change that.

    You may like Jamis frames but that doesn't change the fact that they aren't
    as "rock solid" as you claim them to be. You make a comment about Jamis
    not having the costs of other bikes. Gee, I wonder where they cut costs in
    that rear swingarm?

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    "TBF" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "KLydesdale" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "TBF" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    >
    > "JD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    > > "TBF" <[email hidden]> wrote in message


    news:<[email hidden]>....

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > > when I hear a loud
    > > > crack. Thinking it was a branch or twig, I keep riding until I


    notice
    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > > rear wheel is doing a crab-walk.
    > > >
    > > > I look down and I see this!
    > > > http://members.rogers.com/jr.miller/interest.htm
    > > >
    > > > My swingarm is destroyed. Before anyone asks...no I don't do jumps


    or

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > > downhill, strictly XC. I've got too many bills and an 8 year old


    to
    keep
    in

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > > XBOX and Gamecube games to be risking time off work. I've ridden


    it
    about 1

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > > 1/2 seasons without a hitch. The girl rides on ahead to fetch the


    car,
    and a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > > half hour later I'm heading home in disbelief wondering what it


    could
    have

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > > been like if that had happend on a fast descent.
    > > >
    > > > Anyway, luckily I have a spare swingarm.
    > >
    > > From: TBF ([email hidden])
    > > Subject: Re: Opinions for the noob
    > > Newsgroups: alt.mountain-bike
    > > Date: 2004-03-14 11:39:04 PST
    > > "Jamis makes rock solid rigs without the costs of other high end
    > > manufacters."
    > >
    > > Please define "rock solid". The catastrophic failure of that


    swingarm

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > tells a different story.
    > >

    And you always sound like a guy who likes to make glowing


    recommendations

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    about the stuff he buys without using it for long enough period to form


    a

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    valid opinion.

    JD only wrote what some of the rest of us were thinking.

    Well I found a pretty interesting thread about JD and his Trek, sounds
    remarkably similar. Pot calling the kettle black??

    The key difference here, which you seem to be missing, is that JD didn't
    really trumpet the virtues of his Y-bike before it broke like you did with
    your Jamis.

    Quoted message said:


    I like the Jamis frames, one bad production is not gonna change that.

    You may like Jamis frames but that doesn't change the fact that they aren't
    as "rock solid" as you claim them to be. You make a comment about Jamis
    not having the costs of other bikes. Gee, I wonder where they cut costs in
    that rear swingarm?

    C'mon Keith, your argument makes too much sense. Our pal here is like
    one of those dogs that chases cars. Senseless and destined to be
    squished like the mutt that he is. The next time his swinger fails,
    he may not be so fortunate as to avoid injury.

    JD

  15. [email hidden] (R.White) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] (JD) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    little ricky white said:

    KL wrote:
    Do you mean like the glowing recommendations for Trek's Y bike that
    JD wrote?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    JD only wrote what some of the rest of us were thinking.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    So did I.

    You know how to use Google, ricky. Dredge it up and show us all where
    my "glowing recommendations" were posted.

    Hey, no problem.

    This first one is glowing pretty bright!

    "Even though mine broke (and has since been
    replaced under warranty), I still think that the Y ride is a
    damn good one for the money and I intend to ride it until it
    breaks again."

    "when we rode at Bartlett, I was wishing I had my Y
    bike that had been in warranty replacement since mid-December"

    A poster wrote he was going from a Trek 820 to a
    Trek Y-Bike and JD replied:

    "You'll love the difference Mikel. Going from my lead sled Trek 850 to
    my Y11, I surely did."

    In response to an ad for a URT Y-11 on EBay:

    "Yeah?, so what's the spec?
    JD interested in a Y11"

    Talking about his Trek Y bike, JD wrote:

    "I like mine and still think that for an older design,
    it's a great bike."

    It's time to backpedal or eat it too.

    Without message headers to show the date those were posted, this post
    is even more worthless than your standard leg humping, psychoboy.

    JD

  16. [email hidden] (JD) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] (R.White) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] (JD) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    little ricky white wrote:
    > KL wrote:
    > Do you mean like the glowing recommendations for Trek's Y bike that
    > JD wrote?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > JD only wrote what some of the rest of us were thinking.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > So did I.

    You know how to use Google, ricky. Dredge it up and show us all where
    my "glowing recommendations" were posted.

    Hey, no problem.

    This first one is glowing pretty bright!

    "Even though mine broke (and has since been
    replaced under warranty), I still think that the Y ride is a
    damn good one for the money and I intend to ride it until it
    breaks again."

    "when we rode at Bartlett, I was wishing I had my Y
    bike that had been in warranty replacement since mid-December"

    A poster wrote he was going from a Trek 820 to a
    Trek Y-Bike and JD replied:

    "You'll love the difference Mikel. Going from my lead sled Trek 850 to
    my Y11, I surely did."

    In response to an ad for a URT Y-11 on EBay:

    "Yeah?, so what's the spec?
    JD interested in a Y11"

    Talking about his Trek Y bike, JD wrote:

    "I like mine and still think that for an older design,
    it's a great bike."

    It's time to backpedal or eat it too.

    Without message headers to show the date those were posted, this post
    is even more worthless than your standard leg humping, psychoboy.

    JD

    So you are denying you wrote these?

  17. [email hidden] (JD) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] (R.White) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] (JD) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    little ricky white wrote:
    > KL wrote:
    > Do you mean like the glowing recommendations for Trek's Y bike that
    > JD wrote?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    It's time to backpedal or eat it too.

    Without message headers to show the date those were posted, this post
    is even more worthless than your standard leg humping, psychoboy.

    More Trek recommendations from JD.

    From: [email hidden] (J D)
    Subject: Re: mesa vs. moab
    Date: 1999/07/22
    Message-ID: <[email hidden]>#1/1
    Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit
    References: <[email hidden]>
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    Stupid is correct in his explanation in the difference between
    chromoly
    and aluminum. The Moab 2 is a most excellent mid-range bike and is
    priced very competetively. The bike shop where I test rode it is
    willing to let me have one for $650 because they know that I ride all
    of
    the time and their product will be seen being used to the utmost.
    It's
    kind of like paying for advertising. I still may go for it just to
    have
    another back-up bike. At that price I'd be pretty foolish not to.

    JD

  18. On 13 Apr 2004 18:54:12 -0700, [email hidden] (R.White)
    scribbled:

    Quoted message said:

    More Trek recommendations from JD.

    [snip]

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Stupid is correct in his explanation in the difference between
    chromoly
    and aluminum. The Moab 2 is a most excellent mid-range bike and is

    So would that then be ----^ a Schwinn Trek?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    priced very competetively. The bike shop where I test rode it is
    willing to let me have one for $650 because they know that I ride all
    of
    the time and their product will be seen being used to the utmost.
    It's
    kind of like paying for advertising. I still may go for it just to
    have
    another back-up bike. At that price I'd be pretty foolish not to.

    JD

    -Slash
    --
    "Ebert Victorious"
    -The Onion

  19. Slash <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    On 13 Apr 2004 18:54:12 -0700, [email hidden] (R.White)
    scribbled:

    Quoted message said:

    More Trek recommendations from JD.

    [snip]

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Stupid is correct in his explanation in the difference between
    chromoly
    and aluminum. The Moab 2 is a most excellent mid-range bike and is

    So would that then be ----^ a Schwinn Trek?

    Umm...it was late when I posted...err...Ok, I was wrong. There, happy?
    I've got the balls to admit I was wrong unlike others.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    priced very competetively. The bike shop where I test rode it is
    willing to let me have one for $650 because they know that I ride all
    of
    the time and their product will be seen being used to the utmost.
    It's
    kind of like paying for advertising. I still may go for it just to
    have
    another back-up bike. At that price I'd be pretty foolish not to.

    JD

    -Slash

  20. [email hidden] (JD) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] (R.White) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] (JD) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    little ricky white wrote:
    > KL wrote:
    > Do you mean like the glowing recommendations for Trek's Y bike that
    > JD wrote?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > JD only wrote what some of the rest of us were thinking.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > So did I.

    You know how to use Google, ricky. Dredge it up and show us all where
    my "glowing recommendations" were posted.

    Hey, no problem.

    This first one is glowing pretty bright!

    "Even though mine broke (and has since been
    replaced under warranty), I still think that the Y ride is a
    damn good one for the money and I intend to ride it until it
    breaks again."

    "when we rode at Bartlett, I was wishing I had my Y
    bike that had been in warranty replacement since mid-December"

    A poster wrote he was going from a Trek 820 to a
    Trek Y-Bike and JD replied:

    "You'll love the difference Mikel. Going from my lead sled Trek 850 to
    my Y11, I surely did."

    In response to an ad for a URT Y-11 on EBay:

    "Yeah?, so what's the spec?
    JD interested in a Y11"

    Talking about his Trek Y bike, JD wrote:

    "I like mine and still think that for an older design,
    it's a great bike."

    It's time to backpedal or eat it too.

    Without message headers to show the date those were posted, this post
    is even more worthless than your standard leg humping, psychoboy.

    Here are your headers.

    From: JD <[email hidden]>
    Subject: Re: Trek Y Bike Info?
    Date: 2000/03/19
    Message-ID: <[email hidden]>#1/1
    References: <[email hidden]>
    <[email hidden]>
    <[email hidden]>
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    X-Complaints-To: [email hidden]
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    PST)
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    Start Here
    NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 21:45:50 PST
    Newsgroups: alt.mountain-bike
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    Well put Gazzer. Even though mine broke (and has since been
    replaced under warranty), I still think that the Y ride is a
    damn good one for the money and I intend to ride it until it
    breaks again.

    JD

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