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Road Rage & Cyclists.. never a good mix

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  1. Its lengthy but worth the read for any one of us who have to deal with this daily issue..

    -----Original Message-----
    From: [email hidden]
    [[email hidden]]
    Sent: Thursday, 10 June 2004 1:58 PM

    <email addresses removed>

    Subject: Action - road rage an cyclists

    Road rage against cyclists (or at the very least a
    misunderstanding and lack of knowledge of the rights
    of cyclists on roads), is an area of concern for
    anyone who rides. Not only for the sake of safety, but
    also for the sake of reducing the stress of riding, if
    all road users were aware of cyclists, and their
    status as legitimate road users.

    The email below, initiated by Mark Higginbotham of the
    Victorian Police Prosecutions Division, identifies an
    opportunity for any road users, and in the above
    context specifically cyclist, to confirm that this is
    an important issue, and that some changes and actions
    are required.

    Please read the email below, respond to Sand Cook
    (Executive officer of the review), and indicate your
    opinion on any safety issues related to cyclist,In
    particular is the issue of minimum distances that
    vehicles should have to adhere to when passing
    cyclists. Many of you would have been in a situation
    of not only being hit, but having the whit's scared
    out of you by a vehicle passing too close. These close
    calls do not help to encourage cycling, nor
    make it as pleasant an experience that it could be.

    Please send in any submission OR at the very least
    forward this email to AT LEAST 3 other cyclists you
    know so that they may have the chance to contribute,
    and get a few stories off their chests.

    Go for it, let the Govt know that it is an issue, and
    we need some changes.
    Cheers,

    Paul

    Subject: From Mark Higginbotham

    There is a parliamentary committee looking into law
    reform that may reduce road rage.
    This is an opportunity to improve the status of
    cyclists on Victorian roads.
    I strongly suggest that you all make a submission,
    urgently, to Sandy Cook, Executive Officer of the
    Drugs and Crime Prevention Committee.
    There is a committee meeting being held on the 21/6
    and the discussion paper has already been published.

    The agenda of this committee will be more difficult to
    expand very soon. Email: [email hidden]

    I spoke with her this morning and she has had 5
    submissions statewide. This will suggest to the
    government that it is a non-issue and nothing will
    happen.

    In most of the states of the US and in most of the
    countries of Europe there are prescribed minimum
    distances that must exist when a motor vehicle passes
    a bicycle.

    My experience is that impatient drivers who resent the
    presence of bicycles on roads take chances by forcing
    their way past when there is insufficient space.
    Please tap out an email and send it to Sandy. The
    committee wants some sense of the measure of the
    problem of road rage and also to design strategies to
    reduce it. At the very least let her know, should you
    agree,that cyclists are commonly the victims of road
    rage that is an expression of the lack of status given
    to them by many motorists.

    Forward this to anyone you think has something to add.
    Mark S Higginbotham
    Leading Senior Constable
    Prosecutions Division
    Research and Training Unit
    Level 2 456 Lonsdale Street
    Melbourne 3000
    Phone 86283280 Fax 96707563

  2. think cfsmtb covered this one in the thread:

    http://www.cyclingforums.com/t129895.html

  3. "coowoowoo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Its lengthy but worth the read for any one of us who have
    to deal with this daily issue..

    -----Original Message----- From:
    [email hidden]
    []"][email hidden]] Sent: Thursday, 10
    June 2004 1:58 PM

    <email addresses removed>

    Subject: Action - road rage an cyclists

    Road rage against cyclists (or at the very least a
    misunderstanding and lack of knowledge of the rights of
    cyclists on roads), is an area of concern for anyone who
    rides. Not only for the sake of safety, but also for the
    sake of reducing the stress of riding, if all road users
    were aware of cyclists, and their status as legitimate
    road users.

    The email below, initiated by Mark Higginbotham of the
    Victorian Police Prosecutions Division, identifies an
    opportunity for any road users, and in the above context
    specifically cyclist, to confirm that this is an important
    issue, and that some changes and actions are required.

    Please read the email below, respond to Sand Cook
    (Executive officer of the review), and indicate your
    opinion on any safety issues related to cyclist,In
    particular is the issue of minimum distances that vehicles
    should have to adhere to when passing cyclists. Many of
    you would have been in a situation of not only being hit,
    but having the whit's scared out of you by a vehicle
    passing too close. These close calls do not help to
    encourage cycling, nor make it as pleasant an experience
    that it could be.

    Please send in any submission OR at the very least forward
    this email to AT LEAST 3 other cyclists you know so that
    they may have the chance to contribute, and get a few
    stories off their chests.

    Go for it, let the Govt know that it is an issue, and we
    need some changes. Cheers,

    Paul

    Subject: From Mark Higginbotham

    There is a parliamentary committee looking into law reform
    that may reduce road rage. This is an opportunity to
    improve the status of cyclists on Victorian roads. I
    strongly suggest that you all make a submission, urgently,
    to Sandy Cook, Executive Officer of the Drugs and Crime
    Prevention Committee. There is a committee meeting being
    held on the 21/6 and the discussion paper has already been
    published.

    The agenda of this committee will be more difficult to
    expand very soon. Email: [email hidden]

    I spoke with her this morning and she has had 5
    submissions statewide. This will suggest to the government
    that it is a non-issue and nothing will happen.

    In most of the states of the US and in most of the
    countries of Europe there are prescribed minimum distances
    that must exist when a motor vehicle passes a bicycle.

    My experience is that impatient drivers who resent the
    presence of bicycles on roads take chances by forcing
    their way past when there is insufficient space. Please
    tap out an email and send it to Sandy. The committee wants
    some sense of the measure of the problem of road rage and
    also to design strategies to reduce it. At the very least
    let her know, should you agree,that cyclists are commonly
    the victims of road rage that is an expression of the lack
    of status given to them by many motorists.

    Forward this to anyone you think has something to add.
    Mark S Higginbotham Leading Senior Constable Prosecutions
    Division Research and Training Unit Level 2 456 Lonsdale
    Street Melbourne 3000 Phone 86283280 Fax 96707563

    - and indicate your opinion on any safety issues related
    to cyclist,In particular is the issue of minimum
    distances that vehicles should have to adhere to when
    passing cyclists-

    I had always understood the law to be that if a motorist
    overtakes a


    cyclist or motorbike that a distance of at least 1 meter
    clearance is to be given.(i don't know the exact wording).
    Anyway, as a cyclist myself, whether or not i'm driving my
    car or bus, I always endeavour to give at least a metre
    clearance as even then, there is not much room for errors.
    The problem with today's society is that everyone leaves
    things till the last minute because they beleive that the
    modern motorcar can get them there on time with their very
    powerful motors(lets face it, most 6 cyl cars like ford and
    holden have the horsepower of the supercars of the 70's, not
    to mention better brakes.tyres etc). Then there is a rush to
    get to the office by 8.50am by trying to push your way into
    the trafffic which i beleive is one of the main reasons for
    the 4WD cars (bullies).

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